Freedom From the Law and Religion

Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae

Revelations are things which were revealed to John with regards to churches on earth. Churches have to do with priest, pastors, bishops, popes and the host of names used to describe leaders in traditional Christianity. etc. These churches are not Christian churches. And their flocks are not Christians.

Those 'in Christ' or Christians, (even if they are physically present on earth) are not in any church on earth. At worse they are under tutors and governors.

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.


There is a serious difference and separation between these two types of people.

Revelations: 1 KJV N.T.
3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;


Revelation describes things that will happen to the various Churches related to water baptism as done by John. This relate to people who have remained under the law and/or scriptures. They are children of the flesh.

People who have totally dropped the law and scriptures and embraced the Spirit of Jesus are different. They have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and scriptures and get no sin, but instead be glorified by God. They are under Spirit of Jesus baptism. They are children of God. This earth will be preserved and improved for them.

The things in Revelations will not happen to or on this earth. This earth is promised to children of God (who include authentic Christians). This earth will not be destroyed. This earth will not go through the things mentioned in Revelations. It is promised that children of God will inherit earth without children of the flesh in the fullness of time. Neither children of God nor this earth will go through the things in Revelations.

Fact is those things in Revelation is the ever 'on going' reality in a parallel earth inside the depths of earth which is hell with Satan. There the light of the sun, the moon and stars do not reach.

Matthews: 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Acts: 2 KJV N.T.
19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood
, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:


The things in red above relate to the earth beneath.

Children of the flesh will simply be teleported (taken) to that parallel earth (i.e. in the earth beneath) in the twinkling of an eye. They will not realize that they have gone into an already existing hell inside the earth. They will perceive that they are still on this earth and this earth is being transformed to that sad and hellish place.

Matthews; 24 KJV N.T.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.


Actually only children of God will be left on this earth which will simply transform to a new place (a New earth), conformed to God's kingdom of heaven on earth.

2 PETER 3
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise (according to those who are led by the Spirit of Jesus), look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness (not according to the law and scriptures but according to the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus)
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Children of God include the chosen few Christian. They are on the right side. They are sheep.

Children of the flesh are on the left side. They are goats.

Matthew 25 King James Version (KJV)
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


The Lord Jesus and His angels are not coming here to inherit the hell described in Revelation. They are coming to inherit God's kingdom of heaven on earth. And dispatch children of the flesh to hell . . . through teleportation according to:

Matthews; 24 KJV N.T.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.


These children of the flesh will experience their arrival in hell as this earth becoming that hell. They will not realize what happened to them. They will simply be in delusion. Therefore Revelation is a description of the already existing destination of goats who are on the left side, on judgment day.

Since the beginning of time children of the flesh have been going to that parallel earth inside the earth which is hell with Satan, after dying on earth. Soon all children of the flesh will be teleported there in one fell scope, in the twinkling of an eye, leaving only children of God on earth.
 
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Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae

The following gives a clear idea of who is going to inherit the surface of earth in the Age of Aquarius. That is, in the fullness of time that is now at hand:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory:
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Romans: 9 KJV N.T.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.


The following points must be noted:
1. the above event is allegory. That is, it happened in Abraham's family, however it applies generally.

2. Abraham had two sons. One was a child of the flesh and the other was a child of Spirit (also described as a child of promise and a child of God). Therefore it is very possible for humans to bring forth both, children of the flesh or children of God through normal sexual procreation.

3. The child of the flesh persecuted the child of God. This happened since the beginning of time to now.

4. only children of God will inherit earth, in the fullness of time when God's kingdom of heaven comes to earth. (because the things confirmed here are allegory)

The following 2000 year old instruction tells about marriage and fruits of marriage and how to stop bringing forth children of the flesh and start bringing forth children of God.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.


This is how Abraham did it in the trial run. When he was led into his sexual procreative act by the law he brought forth a child of the flesh. On the other hand, when he was led into his sexual procreative act by spirit he brought forth a child of God.

The Lord Jesus and God want to fill the surface of earth with only children of God. Are you helping them? Are you serving their agenda?

When you did your sexual procreative act, were you under the law where by the motion of sin which were by the law, worked in you to bring forth a fruit unto death (i.e. 'the dead' who is also called a child of the flesh).

Or were you in the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus which made you free from the law of sin and death so that, when you did your sexual procreative act you brought forth a fruit onto God (also called a child of God)?

If you did not serve the agenda of Jesus and God could you be in good standing with them? Seems that one need not wait until the final moment to know one's standing. One can know one's standing before hand, simply by reading the KJV N.T. with an open mind.

Traditional Christians read the KJV N.T. under the veil or cloud of deluded old conditioning and ideas. Some do not read the KJV N.T. themselves. They simply depend on deluded priests, pastors, bishops, popes etc. They never get truth.

This is not new. People were deluding themselves since Moses time:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
15 But even unto this day when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

 
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Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae

Traditional Christians read the KJV N.T. under the veil or cloud of Old antichrist deluded conditioning and ideas.

How indeed can any one take the KJV N.T. to be the eternal word of God when it is mostly parables and the Lord Jesus, in Matthews; 10 verses: 10 to 16 KJV N.T. has confirmed that parables are given only for:
1. people who are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.
2. people who do not have the eyes to see, the ears to hear and the hearts to understand.
3. people whose hearts are waxed gross
4. people who hath not and from them shall be taken away even that they hath.

People are not reading their KJV N.T. properly and/or they are being fooled.

Ephesians 6 KJV N.T.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:


When it comes to salvation the sword of the Spirit is the word of God. The sword of the Spirit cut you off from delusions and gives you the pure word of God which will save and deliver you. Nothing but the Spirit of Truth brings All Truth.

The purpose of scriptures are as follows:

2 Timothy 3 KJV N.T.
16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


Even parables are given by inspiration of God.

Also according to Hebrews: 6 verses: 1 to 4 KJV N.T. those who are in Christ (Christians) have long put away:
1. the principles and doctrine of Christ
2. laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works
3. faith toward God
4. the doctrine of baptisms
5. the doctrine of laying on of hands
6. the doctrine of resurrection of the dead
7. the doctrine of eternal judgment

To put away those things is to put away scriptures. Why would the scriptures be put away if they are the 'eternal' word of God?

Clearly when traditional Christians read the KJV N.T. they are under a veil or cloud. May be, because they are 'the dead' they were deliberately put under a veil. Seems that scriptures are their schoolmaster to bring them onto spiritual awareness and Christ. Then the veil will be taken away.

The question is who takes away the veil?

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


The Lord who is that Spirit (of Truth) takes away the veil. Indeed the Spirit of Truth brings All Truth. Actually, when it come to salvation, only the Spirit of Truth brings Truth.

Scriptures are given for those who are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Scriptures are given for those are not yet Christian.

If one is actually in the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus one can and will have no veil of delusion. One will know that scriptures are not the eternal word of God.

Scriptures are, at best, some temporary word of God (like the law) that were given for managing 'the dead' until they become spiritually aware. Then they can achieve live communion with the Spirit of Truth, who will then let them know this fact.

You cannot deny that the law were word of God. However they were not the eternal word of God. Scriptures are the same.

Guys, check your selves, you seem to be under the veil of delusion that characterize 'the dead' while mistakenly believing that you are Christian.

May be you guy don't take the following seriously:

Matthew: 7 KJV N.T.
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.


Is it not very obvious now that 'the letter killeth' is 'the scriptures killeth' i.e. when the scriptures are perceive and promoted to be the eternally relevant word of God . . . as you are doing.

Take the scriptures to be the temporary word of God (divinely given for a temporary purpose) and all is fine. The law is the same thing.

Then scriptures are still the word of God or words from God. However they are not eternally relevant word of God. They are divinely given and suited to 'the dead', for as long as they remain 'the dead'. And for as long as 'the dead' are on earth.

Face the fact 'the dead' are not going to be on earth when God's kingdom is fully established on earth. In fact, from among the billion or so called to be Christians, only a few will be chosen.

Therefore the scriptures are temporary word of God. In the fullness of time, 'the dead' will no longer be here, then these word of God (that is scriptures) will be no more. Scriptures will be done away with. There will be no scriptures in God's kingdom of heaven on earth.

Millions of supposed Christian priests, pastors. popes, etc. are delude and bold, just like you. Fact is they are all false prophets and they are boldly misguiding their charges perpetually.

It is time to publicly, loudly and boldly proclaim: Seek ye first the kingdom of God within your own spirit or heart and All things will be added. This is where one will find the Spirit of Truth Who brings All Truth. Scriptures are given simply to tell you this truth. When you find God's kingdom within you heart, the scriptures are useless. They are thrown out.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


Scriptures are given simply to tell you this truth. When you find God's kingdom within you heart, the scriptures are useless. They are thrown out.

Traditional Christians are in grave error. They are seeking ye first and totally, the kingdom of God in the scriptures and that is death. They cannot find the kingdom of God in scriptures.


This is because the likes of you erroneously elevate scriptures way beyond it divine intention and purpose. It is all a very destructive and costly ego trip. Oh, only you have the word of God in a book. You do not have the word of God. You have some words from God.

You have a book of parables which are given for
1. people who are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.
2. people who do not have the eyes to see, the ears to hear and the hearts to understand.
3. people whose hearts are waxed gross
4. people who hath not and from them shall be taken away even that they hath.

You also have a book of doctrines which must be put aside in order to become enlightened in Christ

Wake up from your utter foolishness.

The scriptures contain, mainly the word of God for controlling and ditching 'the dead' who refuse to come onto to and embrace the Spirit of Truth.

Only the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus bring the word of God for salvation and deliverance. These are individual sets of word for each person. This Spirit bring those word of God to each person privately, through each of their own hearts or spirits.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

The Spirit of Jesus intercedes with the Holy Spirit with respect to very individualized and personalized things of each person. "with groanings which cannot be uttered" is very individualized and personalized in each person.

The Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus intercedes with these things and come up with what each person must know, pray for, say and do. This is one's mission in the body of Christ. You cannot get this (personalized and individualized) service in scriptures.

Only the Spirit of Jesus (as discerned within your own heart or spirit) can led you to your unique mission in the body of Christ. One's unique mission in the body of Christ is one's Truth. This is one's word from God which leads one to salvation, deliverance, a child of God etc.

One can muddle in and pour over scriptures all one wants, one will not get one's mission in the body of Christ in or from scriptures or priests, popes or anyone else.

The Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus is 'not seen' and eternal. The scriptures are 'seen' and temporal and word of God in scriptures are temporal.
 
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Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae

It is confirmed that the Spirit giveth life.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6. the spirit giveth life.


This is about having a life.
And not about (just) a living.

The Spirit is about God and God is Love.
Indeed, only those who have loved know God.

1 John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.


Therefore the Spirit giving life is about love giving life.

Is your life led and driven by Love? (this gives life)
Or is it led and driven by rules, laws, doctrines, scriptures, etc.? (this killeth)

When one is led by spirit/love one bring forth only fruits onto God.

Romans 7 King James Version (KJV)
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.


Therefore having a life is about serving in the newness of spirit and bringing forth only fruits onto God. In sexual procreation, these are 'children onto God’.

It is kind of very important.

Most everyone in traditional Christianity is struggling. They are struggling to have a living. They are so far from having a life. And their fruits well . . .

Are they filling the world with only fruits onto to death (these are children of the flesh)?

Do you think that these billion of traditional Christians were misled?

It was confirmed that few will find the path to life:

Matthew: 7 KJV N.T.
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


Are you guys going to continue pedaling things that killeth? Or are you going to be absolutely sure about what you continue to pedal?
 
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Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae

Ephesians 6 KJV N.T.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:


When it comes to salvation the sword of the Spirit is the word of God. The sword of the Spirit cut you off from delusions (cuts you off from parables and laws in scriptures) and gives you the pure word of God which will save and deliver you.

Nothing but an individual intuitive/spirit communion with the Spirit of Truth can do this. Nothing but the Spirit of Truth (which is the Spirit of Jesus) brings All Truth.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


The above confirms that this Spirit is not given to deliver doctrines of right and wrong or good and bad, etc. This Spirit is given to deliver liberties.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


Only the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus bring the word of God for salvation and deliverance. This and only this is All Truth. These are individual sets of word for each person. This Spirit bring those word of God to each person privately, through each of their own hearts or spirits.


Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. (this verse defines the body of Christ)

The Spirit of Jesus intercedes with the Holy Spirit with respect to very individualized and personalized things of each person. "with groanings which cannot be uttered" is very individualized and personalized in each person. These are secrets of each person's heart.

The Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus intercedes with these things with the Holy Spirit and comes up with what each person must know, pray for, say and do. This becomes the mind of the Spirit of Truth for each person. It is individualized and personalized. This is one's mission in the body of Christ. You cannot get this (personalized and individualized) service in scriptures.

What the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do is a perfect amalgam of the things in one's own spirit or heart and the real time will of the living God (the Holy Spirit). This and only this is the word of God that can and will save and deliver one. Doing exactly this and only this, will lead one to salvation and deliverance into heaven. Then one's reaction will be:

1 Corinthians: 14 KJV N.T.
25 And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.


Only the Spirit of Jesus (as discerned within your own heart or spirit) can led you to your unique mission in the body of Christ. One's unique mission in the body of Christ is one's Truth. This is one's word from God which leads one to salvation, deliverance, a child of God etc.

One can muddle in and pour over scriptures all one wants, one will not get one's mission in the body of Christ in or from scriptures or priests, popes or anyone else.

The Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus is 'not seen' and eternal. The scriptures are 'seen' and temporal and word of God in scriptures are temporal. The word of God, in scriptures are for 'the dead'. These do not lead to salvation and deliverance.

The word of God, in scriptures are solely for managing 'the dead' until they become spiritually aware (i.e. the living). Then they can commune with the Spirit of Truth and get the word of God which leads to salvation and deliverance. This is confirmed in Matthews: 13 verses: 10 to 16 and Hebrews: 6 verses: 1 to 4 KJV N.T..

The word of God which come individually, privately and directly from the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus are totally different. These are for the living and these lead to salvation and deliverance.

The purpose of the creation is to magically physically manifest the things (that are held in abstraction) within each person's heart or spirit and to do this in perfect harmony with others and the Holy Spirit.

The things which are held in abstraction in each person's heart are different. This is why each one needs the living Spirit of the Lord Jesus to make this intercession with the Holy Spirit.

Indeed each person's spirit is a different but unique expression of the Holy Spirit. The things which are held in abstraction in each person's heart or spirit, are describes as groanings which cannot be uttered.

Jeremiah 17 KJV N.T.
10 I, the LORD search the heart, . . .


The great boon of this Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus was made manifest to followers of Jesus, 2000 odd years ago:

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
6 . . . the spirit giveth life.


It is called the Spirit of Truth because it knows, addresses and enables each of our individual Truth in perfect harmony with each other and the will of God . . . i.e. so that all thing work together for the good of all who are celled to God's purpose.

Each of our Truth is literally the fabric of each of our individual hearts or spirit. It is totally individualized and held in abstraction.

The Spirit of Jesus comes up with and show each of us, individually, the path which enables each of us to physically express and materialize each of our own Truth, in perfect sinless harmony with each other and God.

This is the real and absolute perfection of our Lord Jesus. Indeed the Lord is a gift far beyond measure. Far greater than dying for the sins of past Jews. If those people continue to remain under the law they will continue to get sin and the physical Lord Jesus would be of no value to them:

Hebrews: 10 KJV N.T.
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,


The Lord Jesus clad only in His In His Spirit Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God, body is the truly divine gift for us. He lives currently, to enable us to have real live salvation and deliverance. He is the Spirit of Truth who show us how to currently have an earthly life in God given freedom, liberty and justification.

He is currently clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God, body. He is seated on the right hand of the Holy Spirit, in spirit heaven. There He is ever ready willing and able to provide this perfect service for all who believe in Him. The physical Jesus is at this time dead and gone to us.
 
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Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae

Jeremiah 17 KJV
10 I, the LORD search the heart, . . .


The Lord Jesus searches each person's heart for: "groanings which cannot be uttered."

Then the Lord, who is that Spirit, makes intercession with the Holy Spirit, for Saints, according to those groanings which cannot be uttered

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. (this verse defines the body of Christ)

The Spirit of Jesus intercedes with the Holy Spirit with respect to very individualized and personalized things of each person. These are derived when the Lord search each person heart or spirit. These are described as: "groanings which cannot be uttered"

These are secrets of each person's heart which do not conform to ideals and laws of society, morality, the law, scriptures and/or things of religiosity.

This is the life of Saints. Saints are given by God to have these liberal ideas in their hearts. Saints are enlightened in Christ.

According to Hebrews: 6 verses: 1 to 4 KJV N.T. those who are enlightened in Christ (Christians) have long put away:
1. the principles and doctrine of Christ
2. laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works
3. faith toward God
4. the doctrine of baptisms
5. the doctrine of laying on of hands
6. the doctrine of resurrection of the dead
7. the doctrine of eternal judgment.

Their "groanings which cannot be uttered" will be about transgressing those seven doctrines. This is the God given freedom, liberty and justification that is given to those in Christ
Therefore they will not utters these openly.

Fact is before now, it was not given for the likes of Robert Pate & Iouae to be privy to these "groanings which cannot be uttered". Only Saints were entitled to have and know about such (liberated) groanings

Now every one will know that, under Grace of God, Saints (i.e. those who are actually 'in Christ') are permitted to have such liberated groanings. They have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress all doctrines # 1 to # 7 above, . . . although no one else is permitted by God to have such liberties.

Every thing (i.e. all previously hidden things) is surfacing for all to know in details simply because it is the fullness of time. This does not mean that all will have the same privileges.

Life is not about persecuting people who have the God given right to transgress:
1. the principles and doctrine of Christ
2. laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works
3. faith toward God
4. the doctrine of baptisms
5. the doctrine of laying on of hands
6. the doctrine of resurrection of the dead
7. the doctrine of eternal judgment.
.

You guys do not even realize that Saints (enlightened Christians) are among those who transgress those doctrines. They are the only authentic Christians. They are the only ones who are actually 'in Christ'. They are the only ones who are enlightened in Christ. Hebrews: 6 verses: 1 to 4 KJV N.T. clearly confirms that it is impossible for those who were once enlightened in Christ to go back to those doctrines.

You guys are unaware . . . of scriptures and all.

You guys are blocking the entrance to enlightenment in Christ, and you are not going in yourself.

Romans: 14 KJV N.T.
13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.


You guys are the dead, therefore let the dead bury you and please let those who seek to follow the Lord Jesus, onto enlightenment in Christ, do so without your blockage and persecution.
 
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Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae,

Hebrews: 6 KJV N.T.
1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this will we do, if God permit.
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

The above revelation confirms that in order to reach or come any where near, enlightenment in Christ one has to have long put away all of the following:
1. the principles and doctrine of Christ
2. laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works
3. faith toward God
4. the doctrine of baptisms
5. the doctrine of laying on of hands
6. the doctrine of resurrection of the dead
7. the doctrine of of eternal judgment

In fact, Hebrews: 6 verse: 4 KJV N.T. confirms that it is impossible for those who were once enlightened in Christ (i.e. Saints), to go back to those doctrines.

You guys do not seem to like the above revelation so you self-righteously and arrogantly deny it and thrown it out.

Fact is, it is the most important revelation in all scriptures. It is about enlightenment in Christ. You guys rush in where angels fear to thread.

It defines the path to salvation:

Hebrews: 6 KJV N.T.
9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.


Therefore the very act of putting away the following accompany salvation:
1. the principles and doctrine of Christ
2. laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works
3. faith toward God
4. the doctrine of baptisms
5. the doctrine of laying on of hands
6. the doctrine of resurrection of the dead
7. the doctrine of of eternal judgment.

Salvation is about life (everlasting). Salvation is about putting away the above seven doctrine which are the essence of scriptures.

Therefore staying in or with, those seven doctrines, which are the essence of scriptures, means no salvation and this means death. Therefore scriptures killeth. And in the following revelation:

2 Corinthians 3 King James Version (KJV)
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.


"for the letter killeth" means, "for the scriptures killeth".

 
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Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae,

Parables are from the Lord Jesus. Therefore they are the word of God.

However in Matthews: 10 verses: 10 to 16 KJV N.T. the Lord confirmed that parables are given only for:
1. people who are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.
2. people who do not have the eyes to see, the ears to hear and the hearts to understand.
3. people whose hearts are waxed gross
4. people who hath not and from them shall be taken away even that they hath.

Therefore parables are the word of God for a particular kind of people. Parables are not the word of God for every one. (Seems quite clear that parables are given for 'the dead to bury their dead').

(Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
)

To another set of people the word of God says:

Hebrews: 6 KJV N.T.
9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.


This means that 'we' are persuaded (shown) better things that certain people can have (and which all humans can eventually have). These better things accompany salvation.

"The better things" mentioned in the above are in Hebrews: 6 verses: 1 to 4. They relate to putting away:
1. the principles and doctrine of Christ
2. laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works
3. faith toward God
4. the doctrine of baptisms
5. the doctrine of laying on of hands
6. the doctrine of resurrection of the dead
7. the doctrine of of eternal judgment.

And putting away the above 7 things accompany salvation. (So here we have the final thresh hole to salvation).

Therefore all things in the KJV N.T. are the word of God. However they are not all for everyone. They are given to people at different levels, in their passage to salvation.

The final word of God is that one will naturally and spontaneously (i.e. by grace of God) discern the folly that are the words of God in the KJV N.T.. This is the meaning of "this will we do, if God permit" i.e. God will permit one to put away the 7 things above because one has become wise as angels.

One has actually become enlightened. This in itself is enlightenment. Then one will drop all the word of God that are in the KJV N.T., That is, one will drop the scriptures and simultaneously, salvation will come to one.

This is how one moves into perfection or enlightenment in Christ.

Thereafter one will get a different set of words from God directly from the Spirit of Truth.

Esteeming all the word of God in scriptures simultaneously, is death. Also esteeming the word of God in scriptures forever or even for one's entire life is death.

Death means: one never achieve salvation and deliverance. That is, one never achieve perfection or enlightenment, which means that one never become a Christian. One never become 'in Christ'.

If one dies in that sad state (i.e. still esteeming the scriptures as the eternal word of God), Christ has benefited one, nothing.
 
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Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae,

Those who delight in the written scriptures beyond it divine intent, killeth, their fellow man. They are likened to scribes and Pharisees in the following revelation:


Matthew 23 King James Version (KJV)
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

 

Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae,

If you guys actually want salvation and deliverance you cannot be denying truths that are clearly, plainly and literally stated in the scriptures and go on to make up and promote your own things: There are two set of people, always. One set are on the right side (sheep) and the other set are on the left side (goats).

Those who follow the Lord are on the right side. They are sheep. The others are the dead who bury their dead. They are on the left side. They are goats.


Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.


Although many more than twelve people tried to 'follow the Lord Jesus', as disciples, no more than the 'chosen' twelve were allowed to 'follow Jesus'. (did you know this?)

Everyone else were eventually sent away, by the Lord Jesus. The Lord Jesus told them, 'Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father'. Then from that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

Only the twelve disciples remained and were given to and/or allowed to follow Jesus. Everyone else (i.e. the great multitudes) were left to 'let the dead bury them'.


John 6 KJV N.T.
1 After these things Jesus went over the sea of Galilee, which is the sea of Tiberias.
2 And a great multitude followed him, because they saw his miracles which he did on them that were diseased.
. . . . . . .
59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. (these multitudes were not chosen by God to follow the Lord Jesus)
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.


Being chosen by God, to follow the Lord Jesus is a very big deal. One does not simply pick a denomination and accept their interpretations and go with that. Also one cannot simply go to the KJV N.T. and study it. None of these can be one's first act. Those are the surest way to have the dead bury one.

One must seek ye first the kingdom of God within one's own heart then all things, including being chosen by God to follow the Lord Jesus, will be added.

This is not about being certified by one's fellow man with a Masters or Doctorate in 'Christian theology'.

This is about 'meditating' and so actualizing Gifts of the Spirit. This is about being 'certified by God and not by man. This is about power. This is not about learning words in scriptures. Also this is not about repeating or parroting slogans derived from words in scriptures.

1 Corinthians: 4 KJV N.T.
20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.


Fact is everyone who did not seek ye first the kingdom of God within were and have remained 'the dead' who will be buried by others who are dead. They will inevitably pull each other down.

This is the predicament of the billion strong traditional Christians. They all use scriptures as their first and only source for the word of God. None or few 'seek ye first the kingdom of God within' . . . they therefore remained 'the dead'.

These are the great masses of those called to Christianity. They are the dead who are burying their dead. How are 'the dead burying their dead'? They are being misled into simply repeating slogans from the KJV N.T. instead of seeking ye first the kingdom of God within.

By not seeking ye first the kingdom of God within they remain 'spiritually dead'. Their hearts remain waxed gross. They do not get the Gift of discernment. Then they become the dead who are burying their own kind by generally preaching and promoting false interpretations of scriptures.

This is the reality in the billion strong traditional Christianity. Being spiritually dead, they do not have the Gift of the Spirit to discern scriptures. They therefore totally misinterpret, misrepresent and misuse the KJV N.T. Then they they and their charges err and are not chosen.

To have the Gift of the Spirit to discern scriptures is a right brain actualization. It is added to one who has 'brought on line' one's right side brain hemisphere. These are intuits. This is to be on the right side. This awaken of and bring on line of one's right side brain hemisphere is achieved by searching one's own heart or spirit, i.e. by seeking ye first the kingdom of God within.

Those who wish to use scriptures must first acquire this gift of the Spirit. This is how to be on the right or intuitive or spiritual side.

Those who go directly to the scriptures, including those with Masters, Doctorate etc, in theology are not God gifted discern-ers of scriptures. They are lettered or certified by their fellow man. They are 'intellectuals'. They function through their left side brain hemisphere. They are on the left side.


Matthew: 25 King James Version (KJV)
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
 
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Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae,

Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him (a disciple), Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.


Although many more than twelve people tried to 'follow the Lord Jesus', as disciples, no more than the 'chosen' twelve were allowed to 'follow Jesus'. (did you know this?) Every one else remained the dead who bury their dead.

Everyone else were eventually sent away, by the Lord Jesus. The Lord Jesus told them, 'Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father'. Then from that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

They were sent away to be with the masses who were given only parables in public meetings. They had to remain among the dead who were not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They could not follow the Lord Jesus. They remained 'the dead' and were grouped with the dead who bury their dead.

Only the twelve disciples remained and were given to and/or allowed to follow Jesus. Everyone else (i.e. the great multitudes) were left to 'let the dead bury them'. The following revelation clearly and literally confirmed the above statement:


John 6 KJV N.T.
1 After these things Jesus went over the sea of Galilee, which is the sea of Tiberias.
2 And a great multitude followed him, because they saw his miracles which he did on them that were diseased.
. . . . . . . (they traveled with Him for a while and He said many things to them).
59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

. . . . .
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. (these multitudes were not chosen by God to follow the Lord Jesus)
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
(thereafter only the disciples walked with Him.)

In the above, it is said, "For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.".

 
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Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae.

Based on the above post # 191:

It is clearly and literally confirmed that everyone except Jesus' twelve disciples were 'the dead', i.e. their heart were waxed gross. They were not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They could not be privy to the things which the Lord would tell His disciples in private. So he sent them packing and off. They belong among those who got parables.

John: 6 KJV N.T.
65 And he said (to them), Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father (these multitudes were not chosen by God to follow the Lord Jesus)
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.(thereafter only the disciples walked with Him.)


In Matthews: 10 verses: 10 to 16 KJV N.T. the Lord confirmed that parables are given only for:
1. people who are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.
2. people who do not have the eyes to see, the ears to hear and the hearts to understand.
3. people whose hearts are waxed gross
4. people who hath not and from them shall be taken away even that they hath.

These people did not have 'the eyes to see', 'the ears to hear' and 'the hearts to understand' the highly spiritual things which Lord was given to deliver to those who were chosen by God, i.e. His twelve disciples.

In John: 6 verse: 64, KJV N.T. it is said also " . . . who should betray him.". These people also had the potential to betray Jesus because they would not understand the higher teachings which he would be giving to only his twelve chosen disciples.

Because these dead people did not have the capacity to get Jesus' prized message, they would not only dismiss this message. They would also misinterpret, undermine and corrupt the Lord's premier and prized teaching. The masses could not get this message. This message had to be given only to His disciples, in very private sessions among only them.

So the Lord had to and did removed these dead people from His inner circle. He sent them packing and off to be among the public (who were not given to know these precious gems).

In this way, the Lord upheld the division between those who were called 'to follow Him' and 'the dead who bury their dead; . . . while also actively practicing:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.


(Traditional Christians very foolishly and totally misguidedly believe that parables and scriptures etc. are Holy pearls mentioned in the above revelation.

Fact is the Holy pearls come only from a direct and individual communion between one's own spirit and the Spirit of Truth, This comes by seeking ye first the kingdom of God within one's own heart or spirit. This is how to enter into Jesus' inner circle. This is how to be chosen to follow Jesus, like the disciples.

Traditional Christians are not in Jesus' inner circle. They have not followed Jesus. They are not following the Lord Jesus. They have not seek ye first the kingdom of God within one's own heart or spirit. They went directly and only to scriptures. They embraced scriptures, including parables. They are the dead who are burying their dead.

Traditional Christians do not follow the Lord Jesus. They are the dead who are burying their dead. They are the very great majority (all but a few) of those who are called to Christianity. They are not chosen.
)

Only Jesus' disciples were permitted to remain within His inner circle and 'follow Him'. This and only this was where the actual mysteries of God's kingdom heaven (the Holy things and pearls) were released by the Lord Jesus. All others were sent packing and away. They were not given by God and Jesus, to get the Holy pearls. They were given to get parables and they were given only parables. They were all 'the dead who would inevitably buried each other'.

All were sorted into two sets of people, according to:

Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him (a disciple), Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.


The Holy things that are pearls are not the word of God in scriptures. Holy things that are pearls are the word of God from the Spirit of Truth. These are totally different word of God. The word of God in scriptures are for the dead who inevitably bury each other and themselves. The word of God from the Spirit of Truth are for the living and others who are actually seeking truth and life eternal. These word of God, from the Spirit of Truth, giveth life.

Fact is, for 2000 odd years traditional Christians firmly fixed their identified only on 'the dead'. They embraced and used parables every where in their religious gatherings and general life. They do this even thought parables were given only for 'the dead'. The billion strong traditional Christians, become and continued to be 'the dead who bury their dead'. And they remained the dead who bury their dead.

Those who actually 'followed the Lord Jesus' (the chosen few) remained outside traditional Christians.

My post here are given to change this sad state of affairs among the billion strong traditional Christians. They are the most lost and in real need of help.

My posts are on board here so as to give the few who are last to Christianity to actually get truth. This offers an opportunity to there lase few to get truth and therefore not err and be among the first few, from among the chosen few.

The message is simple. It says: 'seek ye first God's kingdom of heaven within one's own heart or spirit (i.e. meditate first) and so discern the Spirit of Truth there. Then the Spirit of Truth will pass All Truth. Only All Truth (from the Spirit of Truth,) can and will save and deliver one.

All Truth has nothing to do with scriptures. All Truth are the word of God that gives life. They come from the Spirit of Truth Who giveth life.

The word of God in scriptures are for the dead. The word of God in scriptures include parables, they are given for 'the dead' to killeth and bury their own kind. The scriptures are the letter which killeth.

Only the word of God from the Spirit of Truth giveth life.


Although the message is simple, it is a very long and devoted task to use revelations in the KJV N.T. to bring the last few who will be chosen first, to actual realization of the above fact. That is, to bring these last few to forget scriptures and all else (who killeth) and knock on the door to the Spirit Who giveth life.

Jesus' primary and prized teaching (which only the disciples got, in very private sessions among only themselves), pertained to 'seeking ye first the kingdom of God within' and "the Spirit of Truth Who bring All Truth". It pertained to meditation and the resulting spiritual self actualization. It pertained to power and not words.

1 Corinthians: 4 KJV N.T.
20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.


This was given only to Jesus' disciples, in very private sessions among only them. This and only these things revealed the path to life. This remain persecuted, denied, blasphemed, relegated and not utilized by traditional Christians.

This prized teaching of the Lord was misinterpreted, denied, undermined and relegated (by the dead masses) in order to favor and elevate parables and other things that were given for 'the dead'.

This was and continue to be the worse betraying of the Lord Jesus.

Yet this betraying of the Lord Jesus dominated and ruled over a billion or so people in traditional Christianity for all of the past 2000 odd years. This is why many are called and few make it.

This is why from the billion or so Christians, only a chosen few will be on the right side and be told: Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

The very great majority (i.e. all but a few) of those called to Christianity are on the left side. The Lord will say to them: Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels

Get in the right lane now. The final choice to the right and left side division is at hand. Get in the right lane now. The final division is immediately ahead.

Indeed this is the final call to know your truth.

Am I reaching anyone?
 
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Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.


Traditional Christians very foolishly and totally misguidedly believe that parables and scriptures etc. are Holy pearls mentioned in the above revelation.

Fact is the Holy pearls come only from a direct and individual communion between one's own spirit and the Spirit of Truth. Holy pearls brings eternal life and only the Spirit of Truth brings All Truth and giveth life.

Getting All Truth and eternal life come only by seeking ye first the kingdom of God within one's own heart or spirit. This is how to enter into Jesus' inner circle. This is how to be chosen by God to follow Jesus, like the disciples.

Traditional Christians are not in Jesus' inner circle. They have not followed Jesus. They are not following the Lord Jesus. They have not seek ye first the kingdom of God within their own hearts or spirits. They went directly and only to scriptures. They embraced scriptures, including parables. They are the dead who are burying their dead.

Traditional Christians do not follow the Lord Jesus. They are the dead who are burying their dead. They are the very great majority (all but a few) of those who are called to Christianity. They are not chosen.


Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
 
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Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae.

Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


In Matthews: 10 verses: 10 to 16 KJV N.T. the Lord confirmed that parables are given only for:
1. people who are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.
2. people who do not have the eyes to see, the ears to hear and the hearts to understand.
3. people whose hearts are waxed gross
4. people who hath not and from them shall be taken away even that they hath.

Therefore parables are the word of God for a particular kind of people. Parables are not the word of God for every one.

In Matthews: 10 verses: 10 to 16 KJV N.T. the Lord confirmed that parables were not given for or to the disciples. Parables were given to and for all others.

The Lord Jesus instructed:

Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him (a disciple), Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.


The disciples are the guys who were called to follow Jesus. In Matthews: 10 verses: 10 to 16 KJV N.T. the Lord confirmed that the disciples have hearts that are not waxed gross.

In Matthews: 10 verses: 10 to 16 KJV N.T. the Lord also confirmed that the other guys have hearts that are waxed gross. They are 'the dead'. They are the dead who bury their dead. In Matthews: 10 verses: 10 to 16 KJV N.T. the Lord also confirmed that these other guys were given parables.

Therefore it is quite clear that parables are given for 'the dead to bury their dead'. They are the guys whose hearts are waxed gross.

Do not let false prophets foist scriptures, which include parables, on you. Scriptures are the letter which killeth. Only the Spirit of Truth brings All Truth and giveth life.

Authentic prophets who come in Jesus' name will tell you to totally drop scriptures (for the scriptures killeth) and totally embrace the Spirit of Truth (for only this Spirit giveth life).


False prophets are promoting scriptures to be far more than its actual divine value so as to killth you. So as to deny you the path to being in Christ or Christ consciousness.

These false prophets delight in things for the dead. They are the dead. Things for the dead are 'seen' like physically delivered scriptures, including parables. False prophets can look only to things that are 'seen'. Fact is All Truths and eternal life comes only from the 'not seen' Spirit of Truth.

In order for false prophets to preserve their comfort zone, they totally deny and marginalize things for the living. Things for the living include the Spirit of Truth Who brings All Truth and eternal life.

The most common deception used by false prophets who come in Jesus' name is their claim that the Spirit of Truth (Who brings All Truth and giveth life), re-validate scriptures/parables which killeth, when Jesus has long confirmed that:

1. parables are only for:
1. people who are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.
2. people who do not have the eyes to see, the ears to hear and the hearts to understand.
3. people whose hearts are waxed gross
4. people who hath not and from them shall be taken away even that they hath.
(re. Matthews: 10 verses: 10 to 16 KJV N.T.)

2. salvation accompanies the very act of putting away the following things that are in scriptures:
1. the principles and doctrine of Christ
2. laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works
3. faith toward God
4. the doctrine of baptisms
5. the doctrine of laying on of hands
6. the doctrine of resurrection of the dead
7. the doctrine of of eternal judgment.
(re. Hebrews: 6 verses: 1 to 4 KJV N.T.)

Robert Pate & Iouae, you guys should not trust your own theology . . . you guys have been misguided and misled.
 
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Gurucam

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Robert Pate & Iouae.

Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.


In Matthews: 10 verses: 10 to 16 KJV N.T., above, the Lord confirmed that parables are given only for:
1. people who are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.
2. people who do not have the eyes to see, the ears to hear and the hearts to understand.
3. people whose hearts are waxed gross
4. people who hath not and from them shall be taken away even that they hath.

In Matthews: 10 verses: 10 to 16 KJV N.T. the Lord also confirmed that He did not give parables to the disciples. Instead the disciples were given the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

In the following the Lord confirmed that the disciples are the only ones chosen to follow Him. Therefore those others who got parables were the dead who will inevitably bury their dead.

Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him (disciple), Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

With very great plainness of speech the Lord Jesus confirmed that parables are not for those who follow Him, parables are only for the dead who bury their dead.

Therefore: Do not let false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, teach you that the way of following the Lord Jesus is to use scriptures which include parables. Clearly they are trying to misled you. Parables were not given for or to those who were chosen to follow the Lord Jesus.

Inwardly they are ravening wolves. That is, those who tell you that scriptures which include parables are for those who follow the Lord Jesus are ravening wolves, inwardly. They are wolves who are coming to you in sheep's clothing. They are the dead who are treating you as 'the dead'. They are trying to bury you. They are trying to send you to hell with Satan. This is confirmed in:


Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


In fact if you teach and promote that the way to follow the Lord Jesus is by using the scriptures which include parables, you can be sued, on earth, by people who suffer under your advise.

Indeed if you smilingly or otherwise receive people who are seeking to follow the Lord Jesus and you foist the scriptures (i.e. parables) on them you are clearly being a false prophet who came in Jesus (Christian) name and serving Satan.

You will also be accountable on judgment day. You are doomed, all around.

Do you realize the seriousness of your transgression?
 
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Gurucam

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Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
 
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