Does Romans 7:1-3 affirm different rules for women and men regarding adultery?

Yahu

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Polygamy is forbidden (Gen. 2:24, Ex. 20:14, Ps. 128:1–6, 1 Co 7:2).

By your position Jacob would be in sin for having two wives and two concubines and that most of the tribes of Israel would have been conceived in sin.

In the law, ONLY the high priestly line was limited to a single wife and required her to be a virgin of the people or the widow of another high priest.

Yes, it is best to follow the highest standard but that standard was not even applied to all other priests much less the rest of the nation.

The scriptures you posted do NOT forbid polygamy.
 

Alaya

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Plenty. Paul calls the law a tutor to teach us of the ways/nature of Yah. From the law we know what angers Yah and what He allows.

The Mosiac law was given that would show the people what Sin was, compared to God's holiness. No man could fulfil it, but the Law had to be given, because sin is the cause of death, and God made it that He alone by coming in the flesh of man could overcome and pay it's debt, (death). ONLY Jesus was able to fulfil The Law, so any sin in the Old Testament was inevitable, plus God who already had a plan, used these sinful men to fulfil His purpose for ALL in Christ Jesus's Last and Final sacrifice. The curse of the Law was then paid in full. Not one sin has escaped penalty, within the O.T, and now in the New Covenant, all sin, past, present, and future is paid...but Only in Jesus. And if we sin deliberate, continuously, we forfeite our blessings. God will let that man/woman be chastised by sins natural reaping of destruction. But repentance is turning back, and allowing God to heal and restore. For He is just, and love.
 

Tambora

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That was for Bathseba and Uriah.

Where does David repent for his polygamy?

Law for the king of Israel.

Deuteronomy 17:17 KJV
(17) Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
 

Tambora

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By your position Jacob would be in sin for having two wives and two concubines and that most of the tribes of Israel would have been conceived in sin.
So?
Jacob was unmerciful to his brother, tricked his father, and cheated his father-in-law.

And his sons were not much better.
 

Alaya

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Law for the king of Israel.

Deuteronomy 17:17 KJV
(17) Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

Amen to that. God had to tell them what would be best for them, but as ever, God makes for good to those He has annointed, and He knew David was a man who loved God's heart, and statutes, even though he could not stop himself from sin. God chastised, in His judgement, by telling David his very own son would want to kill him, and that he would not get to build the Temple. God made provision for women, despite the Kings disobedience. He is merciful, and the reaping of these kings sins, is obvious, if one takes a good look.
 

Tambora

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Plenty. Paul calls the law a tutor to teach us of the ways/nature of Yah. From the law we know what angers Yah and what He allows.
Paul says the law condemns.and shows that all deserve death.

allows


Glad you used that word because GOD did allow things that He despised.
He despised divorce, but allowed for it in the law because of the HARDNESS OF MAN'S HEART.
 

Yahu

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So?
Jacob was unmerciful to his brother, tricked his father, and cheated his father-in-law.
And his sons were not much better.

Im afraid I don't take such a judgmental position and it is clear that Yah loved Jacob and hated Esau. There is no condemnation of Jacob taking two wives but there is condemnation of Esau marrying a Canaanite.
 

Tambora

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Im afraid I don't take such a judgmental position
I hope you are kidding.
You gonna tell your children that GOD is ok that they be cruel and merciless to their brother to steal what belonged to him, then lie and trick their parent, and then cheat their in-laws???????????????????
Come on.

and it is clear that Yah loved Jacob and hated Esau.
GOD chose Jacob over Esau before they were ever born, before they did anything right or wrong at all.
It was pure election (ie. unmerited).
And GOD was going to fulfill every blessed promise He made no matter how badly Jacob screwed up. (Ooo, there's that 'unmerited' stuff again.)

We like to call it ..... grace.


There is no condemnation of Jacob
Well it ain't because he was an upstanding gentleman.
Could it be ..... grace?
 

serpentdove

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[Are you using David's sinful life to justify your sin? Ex 20:14] ...[M]y sin is none of your business

If someone were to ask me if I were a polygamist, I'd have no trouble answering no. :AMR:

[The Jews understood David's life to be a bad example. :plain:] By your comment of the Jews, and their feelings towards King David proves to me you don't know much at all!
Because David committed murder and adultery, did you think God all of the sudden called murder and adultery A-Okay? :dizzy: 2 Sam. 12:14, Ps 50:21, Mt 5:18
 
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serpentdove

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...In the law, ONLY the high priestly line was limited to a single wife...

Approach a holy God with 12 wives (Ex 20:14). See how that works out for you (Hos 4:6, 1 Co 6:9-10). :dizzy: You must think that Tt 1:5-16 is only for super duper saints, too. :hammer:
 

daqq

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All the Prophets and the Torah prophesied until Yohanan, (Matthew 11:13).
You either believe it or you do not.

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All one needs to do is read the last four pages of replies since your post, herein above, to see that what Yeshua says is true. Take allegorical writings as literal and physical if you want but you are not abiding in the Testimony of Yeshua when you do so. Most of the replies since we had this exchange clearly show the fallacy of a literal physical interpretation of the supernal and spiritual Word of Elohim who is Himself Spirit.

Torah = Teaching, (as a Father teaches His children), and that is the basis of these things.
 

Alaya

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I'm guessing that you are a Jewish brother in Christ Yeshua. Welcome. However, let me just say, Jesus has made the Father known by His easy to understand wording to all in the New Testament. Even children understand Him, and Yeshua has made it so we too come with a simple mind. The devil is hard at work trying to blind plenty against the Truth, by giving them illumination upon their prideful intelligence. Jesus/Yeshua enlightens us by His Word, for He is that Word, and He is the Light of the World. And His Word is shaper than 'any' two edged sword. There are many swords out there flying throughout the halls of Theology, but Yeshua is perfect, understanding theology to those who know they need Him.
 

serpentdove

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...The way adultery was defined in the OT was about the status of the woman, not the man...

It's the same for men and women (Gen. 2:19, 20). :dizzy: If you reprobates (2 Cor. 13:3–5) spent as much time trying to clean up (Jb 29:14, 1 Co 9:27) as you do attempting to justify your sin, :banana: you'd have a change at heaven (Jer 6:30, Ro 1:28, 2 Pet. 2:9–22). :freak:

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Alaya

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It's the same for men and women (Gen. 2:19, 20). :dizzy: If you reprobates (2 Cor. 13:3–5) spent as much time trying to clean up (Jb 29:14, 1 Co 9:27) as you do attempting to justify your sin, :banana: you'd have a change at heaven (Jer 6:30, Ro 1:28, 2 Pet. 2:9–22). :freak:

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Lordship

Jesus has already cleansed us from ALL sin. And being regenerated is a WORK in progress, along with the Holy Spirits gently conviction, His Strength in our weakness. You are a hard person, and you have a mocking spirit. Ask the Lord to deliver it Out of you, before you get to heaven...
 
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