Can God be tempted?
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Will jump in to the scriptures and make sure my idea is biblical.
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ECT Can God be tempted?
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. . .I know what you offer will be a good word.
Thank you, and all you say I deeply appreciate as well.
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Can God be tempted? How is it that Jesus was?
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Because the Devil stands in direct oposition to God. He doesnt want anyone to worship God. Rather he wants the worship that is Gods alone by right to be directed to him instead.
All God requires from his servants is obedience. As you've rightly noted Adam was tempted by Satan not by God. God gave Adam a simple instruction not to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Bad. Adam CHOOSE not to obey. The same way the Devil CHOOSE to rebel and disobey by not following Gods divine arrangement. The same way Jesus CHOOSE to obey God, and as a perfect man -the same as Adam- and under extraordinary conditions remained faithful until death.
God doesnt tempt anyone. He's incorruptable and not even capable of sinning. In fact Gods commmand in Deuteronomy 6:16 which Jesus qouted when being tempted by Satan says "You must not put Jehovah your God to the test..". Thus its clear from this verse that temptation is a tactic the Devil uses and is not one that Jehovah uses on his faithful servants, nor does he himself expect to be be tempted or put to the test.
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Because Jesus and God are clearly NOT the same person......
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Should I hold my breath waiting for you to explain how it is you say that with such certainty? . .
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What is your take on this: "And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me." Genesis 22:12 (KJV)
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Should I hold my breath waiting for you to explain how it is you say that with such certainty? . .
The scripture you qouted shows quite clearly Jesus and God are not the same, as how can God be tempted.... The Trinity doctrine can be debunked Biblically as well as secularly. Im not going to get into that discussion as its been done ad nauseum on this board. If you search through my previous posts though you'll see ample evidence why Jesus and God are NOT the same person. For the sake of answering you very briefly i'll give you two passages. John baptized Jesus in Jordan. Verse 17 tells us their was a voice from Heaven. Whose voice was it? Was Jesus speaking to himself...I'l let you judge.
Stephen when stoned saw a vision of God in heaven with Jesus at Acts 7:55-56:-
Its abdundantly clear those verses are talking about two seperate individuals.
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God wasn't tempting Abraham, we know this because he didnt allow Issac to be killed. Rather he was testing Abrahams faith and obedience. Abraham by being obedient and faithful was blessed immensely along with his offspring who became Gods own personal nation.
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Jesus entire existence on Earth from the time he was a small child right up until his death he was 'tested' by the Devil. The Devil wanted him to sin. If Jesus had sinned his sacrifice and sole purpose of coming to the Earth to prove Satan is a liar would have been been invalid.
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You misunderstood me as i never said
. He obviousy was as evidenced by the account(s) in the gospels when he was led away into the wilderness to be tempted by the Devil. Jesus when on Earth was flesh after all, and as the Bible says the entire Earth is "Laying in the hands of the wicked one".
What i said, and i repeat, God as in Jehovah NOT Jesus cannot be tempted and likewise as Deuteronomy says should not be put to the test. God is incapable of sinning. He is incorruptable. ALL creation created in his and mans image, EG mankind and spirits ARE capable of sinning. There's, just like Jesus is to CHOOSE NOT to sin and thus to obey.
I answered from the perspective of David.
As for this question... I will have to answer it in two places.
To be immediate.
I believe Gods temptation was to leave the law in place and be amongst us as our King while his anointed guardian cherub still had a place in His kingdom. I see Absolam as the Devil.
He wanted to overthrow God and hold power over Gods kingdom through the law.
More specifically, the 3 temptations of Christ really come to light when spiritually cross referenced with the entire bible.
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I don't understand that question ▲
Can God be tempted to sin ? no
Hebrews 3:9 was God tempted to sin ? no
James 1:13 Does God tempt people to sin ? no
Can God be tempted to sin ? no
Can God be tempted?
But the 3 temptations of Christ show the attempt to tempt God.
Turn these stones to bread.... As this refers to Moses specifically in Origin.
Exodus 34:28Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
28 Moses was there with the Lord 40 days and 40 nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. He wrote the Ten Commandments, the words of the covenant, on the tablets.
More specifically, this goes further:
As Jesus is tempted to jump from the tabernacle pinochle.
The Angels could have been there, by Christ's command, and would have gloriously revealed that Jesus was God, however the act would have been a self glorifying act and it would have opened Jesus up to condemnation, and relegated His coming to only the Jews...
Especially significant in the light of the fact that Jesus sought to show us that God alone prevails against evil, and sought to teach us that He was relying on Himself outside of His flesh to overcome evil. This is in direct opposition to Him using His flesh to overcome evil.
The bowing before the devil temptation shows that the devil indeed had dominion by God over all in the world.
Paul reveals how this was through the law.
To expound on HAD dominion through the law
1 Cor 2
2 When I came to you, brothers, announcing the testimony[a] of God to you, I did not come with brilliance of speech or wisdom. 2 For I didn’t think it was a good idea to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3 I came to you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. 4 My speech and my proclamation were not with persuasive words of wisdom but with a powerful demonstration by the Spirit, 5 so that your faith might not be based on men’s wisdom but on God’s power.
Spiritual Wisdom
6 However, we do speak a wisdom among the mature, but not a wisdom of this age, or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 On the contrary, we speak God’s hidden wisdom in a mystery, a wisdom God predestined before the ages for our glory. 8 None of the rulers of this age knew this wisdom, for if they had known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 But as it is written:
Also 1 Cor 15
Victorious Resurrection
50 Brothers, I tell you this: Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, and corruption cannot inherit incorruption. 51 Listen! I am telling you a mystery:
We will not all fall asleep,
but we will all be changed,
52 in a moment, in the blink of an eye,
at the last trumpet.
For the trumpet will sound,
and the dead will be raised incorruptible,
and we will be changed.
53 For this corruptible must be clothed
with incorruptibility,
and this mortal must be clothed
with immortality.
54 When this corruptible is clothed
with incorruptibility,
and this mortal is clothed
with immortality,
then the saying that is written will take place:
Death has been swallowed up in victory.[o]
55 Death, where is your victory?
Death, where is your sting?[p]
56 Now the sting of death is sin,
and the power of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory
through our Lord Jesus Christ!
Col 2
8 Be careful that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition, based on the elemental forces of the world, and not based on Christ. 9 For the entire fullness of God’s nature dwells bodily[c] in Christ, 10 and you have been filled by Him, who is the head over every ruler and authority. 11 You were also circumcised in Him with a circumcision not done with hands, by putting off the body of flesh, in the circumcision of the Messiah.[d] 12 Having been buried with Him in baptism, you were also raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13 And when you were dead in trespasses and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive with Him and forgave us all our trespasses. 14 He erased the certificate of debt, with its obligations, that was against us and opposed to us, and has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and disgraced them publicly; He triumphed over them by Him.[
But the 3 temptations of Christ show the attempt to tempt God.
Turn these stones to bread.... As this refers to Moses specifically in Origin.
Exodus 34:28Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
28 Moses was there with the Lord 40 days and 40 nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. He wrote the Ten Commandments, the words of the covenant, on the tablets.
More specifically, this goes further:
As Jesus is tempted to jump from the tabernacle pinochle.
The Angels could have been there, by Christ's command, and would have gloriously revealed that Jesus was God, however the act would have been a self glorifying act and it would have opened Jesus up to condemnation, and relegated His coming to only the Jews...
Especially significant in the light of the fact that Jesus sought to show us that God alone prevails against evil, and sought to teach us that He was relying on Himself outside of His flesh to overcome evil. This is in direct opposition to Him using His flesh to overcome evil.
The bowing before the devil temptation shows that the devil indeed had dominion by God over all in the world.
Paul reveals how this was through the law.
To expound on HAD dominion through the law
1 Cor 2
2 When I came to you, brothers, announcing the testimony[a] of God to you, I did not come with brilliance of speech or wisdom. 2 For I didn’t think it was a good idea to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3 I came to you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. 4 My speech and my proclamation were not with persuasive words of wisdom but with a powerful demonstration by the Spirit, 5 so that your faith might not be based on men’s wisdom but on God’s power.
Spiritual Wisdom
6 However, we do speak a wisdom among the mature, but not a wisdom of this age, or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 On the contrary, we speak God’s hidden wisdom in a mystery, a wisdom God predestined before the ages for our glory. 8 None of the rulers of this age knew this wisdom, for if they had known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 But as it is written:
Also 1 Cor 15
Victorious Resurrection
50 Brothers, I tell you this: Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, and corruption cannot inherit incorruption. 51 Listen! I am telling you a mystery:
We will not all fall asleep,
but we will all be changed,
52 in a moment, in the blink of an eye,
at the last trumpet.
For the trumpet will sound,
and the dead will be raised incorruptible,
and we will be changed.
53 For this corruptible must be clothed
with incorruptibility,
and this mortal must be clothed
with immortality.
54 When this corruptible is clothed
with incorruptibility,
and this mortal is clothed
with immortality,
then the saying that is written will take place:
Death has been swallowed up in victory.[o]
55 Death, where is your victory?
Death, where is your sting?[p]
56 Now the sting of death is sin,
and the power of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory
through our Lord Jesus Christ!
Col 2
8 Be careful that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition, based on the elemental forces of the world, and not based on Christ. 9 For the entire fullness of God’s nature dwells bodily[c] in Christ, 10 and you have been filled by Him, who is the head over every ruler and authority. 11 You were also circumcised in Him with a circumcision not done with hands, by putting off the body of flesh, in the circumcision of the Messiah.[d] 12 Having been buried with Him in baptism, you were also raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13 And when you were dead in trespasses and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive with Him and forgave us all our trespasses. 14 He erased the certificate of debt, with its obligations, that was against us and opposed to us, and has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and disgraced them publicly; He triumphed over them by Him.[