beloved57
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pateism is a false religion inspired by satan, it teaches that sinners Christ died for shall wind up lost anyways, hence denying the Saving Death of Christ !
Calvinism: You Must Already be Saved to Get Saved?
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pateism is a false religion inspired by satan, it teaches that sinners Christ died for shall wind up lost anyways, hence denying the Saving Death of Christ !
You are in denial of the scriptures, the Gospel, Justification by faith. And you still think that you are a Christian.
The Bible plainly says that Jesus atoned for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.
beloved57
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You deny the Gospel. What kinda gospel is it to teach that sinners Christ died for are still lost ? How is that Good News ?
If you could read you would understand that Jesus has tasted death for EVERYONE, Hebrews 2:9.
beloved57
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Pateism good news, hey everyone,Christ died for you, but you still lost!
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You have not, because you ask not, James 4:3.
If you want to be saved you will have to come to Christ as a repentant sinner and ask him to save you.
Patrick Cronin
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The problem goes deeper than that, because Calvin was able to make his own interpretation of 'predestination' from Scripture only because of the Lutheran non-scriptural 'principle' that the Scriptures alone contain the teachings of Christ.
The early church did not have the New Testament books, the Apostles did not go round preaching while holding a book of the NT Scriptures, because they had not yet been written. Ask yourself how was it possible for the early Christians to bring Christ to thousands in the known world, if they did not possess the sole source of the teaching of Christ? The answer is that they had access to ANOTHER absolute source of revelation-which was free from the errors of human interpretation, namely the authority of the promised gift of the Holy Spirit whom Jesus sent to them with the expressed purpose of "guiding them into all truth".(John 16:13)
The Spirit is still active in the Church today and remains the only authentic arbiter of reliable interpretation of Scripture.
The early church did not have the New Testament books, the Apostles did not go round preaching while holding a book of the NT Scriptures, because they had not yet been written. Ask yourself how was it possible for the early Christians to bring Christ to thousands in the known world, if they did not possess the sole source of the teaching of Christ? The answer is that they had access to ANOTHER absolute source of revelation-which was free from the errors of human interpretation, namely the authority of the promised gift of the Holy Spirit whom Jesus sent to them with the expressed purpose of "guiding them into all truth".(John 16:13)
The Spirit is still active in the Church today and remains the only authentic arbiter of reliable interpretation of Scripture.
beloved57
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gospel according to pate. Christ died for your sins but you still lost!
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I agree, I think sometimes that we might be better off if we didn't have the Bible. The truth would still be available to all that want it through the Holy Spirit. The religious have taken the scriptures and have twisted them to say what they want them to say and in doing so have perverted the glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ.
beloved57
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Like you, denying that Christ death saves those He died for!
Epoisses
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Like you deny Christ by saying he didn't even die for the majority of sinners. That's anti-christ.