Bill Maher, Bill Nye, Evolution Just Don't Fly

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Bill Maher, Bill Nye, Evolution Just Don't Fly

This is the show from Tuesday September 17th, 2013

Summary:

Bob Enyart relates his appearances on Bill Maher's Politically Incorrect while reporting on Maher's recent conversation with Bill Nye in which they lie about Christians to convince their ignorant audience of a revisionist history. Bob also talks about the drought before the global flood (per Ezekiel, his Tree seminar, and petrified wood), and about Stephen Hawking suggesting that humans treat one another like animals.
 

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Bill Maher, Bill Nye, Evolution Just Don't Fly

This is the show from Tuesday September 17th, 2013

Summary:

Bob Enyart relates his appearances on Bill Maher's Politically Incorrect while reporting on Maher's recent conversation with Bill Nye in which they lie about Christians to convince their ignorant audience of a revisionist history. Bob also talks about the drought before the global flood (per Ezekiel, his Tree seminar, and petrified wood), and about Stephen Hawking suggesting that humans treat one another like animals.
Heh-heh, complaining about others who 'lie about Christans' in the same breath as misrepresenting Stephen Hawking as 'suggesting that humans treat one another like animals'. Classic!
 

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Heh-heh, complaining about others who 'lie about Christans' in the same breath as misrepresenting Stephen Hawking as 'suggesting that humans treat one another like animals'. Classic!
How, exactly, did he misrepresent Stephen Hawking?
 

Jabin

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Bill Nye is a TV star who specialises in children's science. Why would anyone put much weight on his comments relating to deeper things? Bill Maher is a talking head who is fatally PC and thinks that being vulgar makes him unPC. Why would I care what he has to say?
 

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Bill Nye is a TV star who specialises in children's science. Why would anyone put much weight on his comments relating to deeper things? Bill Maher is a talking head who is fatally PC and thinks that being vulgar makes him unPC. Why would I care what he has to say?
Apparently there's a lot you don't know about Bill Nye.

Hawking did not suggest 'that humans treat one anothers like animals'. He was making a point about the law in the UK concerning assisted suicide for the terminally and painfully ill.
Your ignorance is showing.
 

Lordkalvan

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...Your ignorance is showing.
Perhaps you would care to elaborate from your position of great intellectual superiority?

'...in an interview with the BBC, Hawking, a cosmologist and theoretical physicist, offered his unqualified support to those who feel their life is no longer tolerable.

"I think those who have a terminal illness and are in great pain should have the right to choose to end their lives and those that help them should be free from prosecution," he said. "We don't let animals suffer, so why humans?"

He is concerned, however, that there must be safeguards to ensure that nobody's life is terminated against their wish...

"There must be safeguards that the person concerned genuinely wants to end their life and they are not being pressurised into it or have it done without their knowledge or consent as would have been the case with me"....'

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/17/stephen-hawking-right-to-die
 

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To address my ignorance, I did a tad of research. Bill Nye has a BS degree in mechanical engineering. Bill Nye is a complete laymen on the subject of Evolution.
That's irrelevant. People respect and listen to him. Poke around some science blogs, or look up his appearance on Attack of the Show!.

Perhaps you would care to elaborate from your position of great intellectual superiority?

'...in an interview with the BBC, Hawking, a cosmologist and theoretical physicist, offered his unqualified support to those who feel their life is no longer tolerable.

"I think those who have a terminal illness and are in great pain should have the right to choose to end their lives and those that help them should be free from prosecution," he said. "We don't let animals suffer, so why humans?"

He is concerned, however, that there must be safeguards to ensure that nobody's life is terminated against their wish...

"There must be safeguards that the person concerned genuinely wants to end their life and they are not being pressurised into it or have it done without their knowledge or consent as would have been the case with me"....'

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/17/stephen-hawking-right-to-die
So your argument is that he didn't use the exact words, "Humans should treat one another like animals"?

You're an idiot.

You quoted him saying, "We don't let animals suffer, so why humans," and want to argue that he didn't suggest we treat each other the way we treat animals?

Like I said, "Your ignorance is showing."

It also shows in your usage of the ellipsis in quoting me, as what you quoted was the entirety of my response to you, and was therefore a complete thought, separate from my response to Jabin, and thus the ellipsis is not only unnecessary, but wholly misused. You dropped out of public school, didn't you?
 

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Hey, even Stripe believes in evolution! Of a kind. :rotfl:

Evolutionists are so desperate to justify their religion that they will insist that everyone, even those they recognize as the opposition, is an evolutionist.
 

Lordkalvan

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...So your argument is that he didn't use the exact words, "Humans should treat one another like animals"?
Nope, my argument is that he neither said nor implied that humans should treat one another like animals, contrary to the claim in the OP.
You're an idiot.
And you're an oaf. This is easy.
You quoted him saying, "We don't let animals suffer, so why humans," and want to argue that he didn't suggest we treat each other the way we treat animals?
Yes, because he didn't. If you read the rest of his comments, this is quite obvious - unless you are of the opinion that animals give informed consent to being euthanised, of course?
Like I said, "Your ignorance is showing."
I think you should consider the beam in your own eye.
It also shows in your usage of the ellipsis in quoting me, as what you quoted was the entirety of my response to you, and was therefore a complete thought, separate from my response to Jabin, and thus the ellipsis is not only unnecessary, but wholly misused. You dropped out of public school, didn't you?
Wow, who died and elected you head of the Quote Police? I could have replied to your entire post, but chose not to. The ellipsis indicated the absence of that part of your post that I chose not to reply to, regardless of who it might have been addressed to.

FYI I didn't go to public school. Your ignorance of the UK education system is showing, but don't kept that worry you.
 

Jabin

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That's irrelevant. People respect and listen to him. Poke around some science blogs, or look up his appearance on Attack of the Show!.

And, I'm saying people shouldn't be listening to him unless he's explaining simple physics, something like how a hot air balloon rises. He's no authority on natural history.
 

Lordkalvan

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Evolutionists are so desperate to justify their religion that they will insist that everyone, even those they recognize as the opposition, is an evolutionist.
Are all bats related to one another or are they all distinct and different organisms?
 

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Nope, my argument is that he neither said nor implied that humans should treat one another like animals, contrary to the claim in the OP.
Then you're a moron, as he clearly made that implication.

And you're an oaf. This is easy.
:plain:

Yes, because he didn't. If you read the rest of his comments, this is quite obvious - unless you are of the opinion that animals give informed consent to being euthanised, of course?
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I think you should consider the beam in your own eye.
Which would be?

If you're referring to the whiskey I spilled I washed that out already.

Wow, who died and elected you head of the Quote Police? I could have replied to your entire post, but chose not to. The ellipsis indicated the absence of that part of your post that I chose not to reply to, regardless of who it might have been addressed to.
It was unnecessary.

FYI I didn't go to public school. Your ignorance of the UK education system is showing, but don't kept that worry you.
There are no public schools in the UK? Liar.

Your intellect still attests to the idea you dropped out.

And, I'm saying people shouldn't be listening to him unless he's explaining simple physics, something like how a hot air balloon rises. He's no authority on natural history.
Irrelevant, as they listen to him regarding evolution. It doesn't matter if you don't think they should; they do.
 

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Then you're a moron, as he clearly made that implication.
And you might be considered one for importing an implication that is neither there nor, as the remainder of his comments indicate, is intended. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good misrepresentation.
Yep.
Which would be?
Those who accuse others of ignorance should consider their own failings.
If you're referring to the whiskey I spilled I washed that out already.
Well, a certain level of inebriation could explain your readiness to spit insults.
It was unnecessary.
And wholly irrelevant.
There are no public schools in the UK? Liar.
Where did I say there are no public schools in the UK, but don't let that stop you throwing out more insults? What do you think a public school is in the UK, just out of interest?
Your intellect still attests to the idea you dropped out....
Dropped out of what? (By the way, I put that ellipsis in just for you to fret over some more.)
 

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Oh, this is classic! Brandon just stepped on a rake and doesn't even realize it.

:rotfl:

:mock: Lighthouse.
 

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So your argument is that he didn't use the exact words, "Humans should treat one another like animals"?

You're an idiot.

You quoted him saying, "We don't let animals suffer, so why humans," and want to argue that he didn't suggest we treat each other the way we treat animals?

Like I said, "Your ignorance is showing."

According to the OP it says: "and about Stephen Hawking suggesting that humans treat one another like animals".

He isn't, nor is he saying they should as you are suggesting here. That is a complete misrepresentation of what he's actually saying and is ignorant at best.

If you can't see that then you've no business calling the intellect of other people into question.

:plain:
 

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And you might be considered one for importing an implication that is neither there nor, as the remainder of his comments indicate, is intended. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good misrepresentation.

Yep.

Those who accuse others of ignorance should consider their own failings.

Well, a certain level of inebriation could explain your readiness to spit insults.

And wholly irrelevant.

Where did I say there are no public schools in the UK, but don't let that stop you throwing out more insults? What do you think a public school is in the UK, just out of interest?

Dropped out of what? (By the way, I put that ellipsis in just for you to fret over some more.)
:blabla:

According to the OP it says: "and about Stephen Hawking suggesting that humans treat one another like animals".

He isn't, nor is he saying they should as you are suggesting here. That is a complete misrepresentation of what he's actually saying and is ignorant at best.

If you can't see that then you've no business calling the intellect of other people into question.

:plain:
:blabla:
 
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