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What does that mean?
I said God wants us to come to belief in Him because of Jesus, not because of amazing science facts.
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What does that mean?
I said God wants us to come to belief in Him because of Jesus, not because of amazing science facts.
That is false, more lying, which in islam is ok to further your cause, right?
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/wife-beating.aspx
Lies in islam is allowed (especially to non muslims to further the cause):
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx
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I couldn't find it's English translation
But it's 41th surah
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glorydaz
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Allah is not the Creator of the universe.
God's Truth
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You will not find the truth just by reading the words of God in the Bible, for Jesus says he reveals the truth to those who find his teachings and obeys them.
I quoted numerous verses from it to support what i said and what the actual belief in islam is, you dont know what youre talking about.
Jesus Christ is God, allah is a just a word that means "god" but not THE God, Holy is His name, the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, would you like to know about Him, He is the only way to the Father, allah has no son, but then idols cannot beget sons.
Romans 3:22And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.…
1 Corinthians 15:3-4
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures
Romans 10:9-10
9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Ephesians 1:13 And in Him you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, having heard and believed the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. 14The Spirit is the pledge of our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession, to the praise of His glory.…
He does all, We cannot add to it, He is God of all who came to save us, because we are all sinners before Him.
If you have done even one of these, you are a sinner:
Even one broken, means you can never be with a Holy and Righteous God and will suffer eternity in hell apart from His love and grace.
The good news is that Christ died for you, He took your place, He will cover you with His righteousness which is what the Father will then see in you.
Free through His love and grace. I pray the truth be revealed to you.
1 Corinthians 15:3-4
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures
Romans 10:9-10
9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Ephesians 1:13 And in Him you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, having heard and believed the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. 14The Spirit is the pledge of our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession, to the praise of His glory.…
He does all, We cannot add to it, He is God of all who came to save us, because we are all sinners before Him.
If you have done even one of these, you are a sinner:
Even one broken, means you can never be with a Holy and Righteous God and will suffer eternity in hell apart from His love and grace.
The good news is that Christ died for you, He took your place, He will cover you with His righteousness which is what the Father will then see in you.
Free through His love and grace. I pray the truth be revealed to you.
Yes I didn't understand what you said simply because u don't want to understand what I'm telling u
I said in one verse god says he created heaven and earth in 6 days and in another verse he says he created earth in two days
Do these verses contradict each other????
Besides tell me if jests tells u u can lie to save your life do u accept his order or not?
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By the way I'm Shia and not sunny
So those collections of traditions aren't valid in our views
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What you quoted there, was the Holy Bible, not the quran. Are you here to learn or play games?
U are overlooking that Moses and jesus were god's prophets the same of Muhammad pbut so do u expect god to change his word in holy Koran and says he created universe in 2 years to seems he has given u new info while it's contradicted with reality???
How weird
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I quoted the quran back at you, when you claimed it said the earth was 14 billion years old, your Quran says 6 days.
now you have added a obscure question off the topic, but no Jesus does not tell us to lie.
Others see you lying though, keep doing it, because i am happy to go back and quote the context.
The old testament(moses) predates islam by more than 1000 years and Jesus predates it by over 600 years.
Jesus is God, not a prophet. Satan has you deceived.
I didn't say that
Science says universe is about 14 and god says I created it in 6 days and earth in 2 days
Which two days here can mean earth should be about 4 billion years that science says so
So who has misunderstood it?
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Jesus isn't god simply because he had a mother which means he hasn't lived before he was born and we don't have a time when God doesn't exist
I will discuss u about God and his messengers later if u want to
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We are done, ive spoken with you enough, to show you are playing games, i hope you pay attention to whats been stated for the sake of your soul.
Lady
By saying jesus is god or something like that U can't prove your statements u have to bring evidences and miracles reported for him that are authentic and don't contradict our reasons.
Am I wormh?
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CherubRam
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I would like to point out that there is only one person who is truly a God; and that is Yahwah our Holy Father. The term (elohiym / gods) is used to mean that the person-s, have, or will have, life immortal. The term "gods" does not mean the people have any special powers.
All who will inherit life immortal are gods. Psalm 82:6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ 7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.”
Genesis 6:2
the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were beautiful, and they took any they chose as wives for themselves.
Genesis 6:4
The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days and afterwards, when the sons of God came to the daughters of men, and who bore children to them. They were the powerful men of old, men of renown.
[Nephilim translated means "Fallen ones." They were [men] who were of a very low moral grade.]
Job 1:6
One day the sons of God [men] came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them.
Job 2:1
One day the sons of God came again to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them to present himself before the LORD.
Job 38:7
while the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Hos. 1:10
“Yet the Israelites will be like the sand on the seashore, which cannot be measured or counted. In the place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’ they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’
Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers, because they will be called sons of God.
Luke 20:36
For they cannot die anymore, because they are like [angels/messengers] and are sons of God, since they are sons of the resurrection.
Galatians 3:26
for you are all sons of God through faith in Messiah Yashua.
Psalm 82:6
I said, "You are (gods / elohiym
you are all sons of the Most High.John 10:33-34
33"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
34 Yahshua answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are (gods / elohiym) 35If he called them ('gods / elohiym,) to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— 36what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?
Yahshua was asked if he was the Messiah, he was not asked if he was God. It has always been understood that the Messiah would be a god from Heaven.
John 10:24. The Jews who were there gathered around him, asking, “How long will you keep us in suspense, if you’re the Messiah, tell us plainly?”
marhig
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The Bible is full of deeper meanings and wisdom, you are looking at the natural and not the spiritual. The Bible is the truth, and Jesus Christ bore witness to the truth and brought us a new and living way, a way in which we worship the father in Spirit and in truth.
We don't need to read other books, we have everything we need in the Bible, and we have the way lived out through Jesus Christ. And we are saved through him and no one else. No-one gets to the father except through Christ Jesus, he is the way, the truth and the life.
Have you ever read the gospels?
Why would I read from a false prophet? His fundamental followers have told us. It is as false as Latter Day Saints and the Roman Catholics. It is man made doctrine. The difference is, your beleifs are violent.
And I see you ignored the answer to your fake question about the earth being flat. You knew it didn't say it. Why don't you tell us why you are really here?
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