a whore for the republican party

[kmoney]

They are all rich billionaires which have bought influence to corrupt the system & deny the citizenry a voice for their interests. Trump is just as guilty of buying influence as the Kochs ever were, I am surprised you had to ask.

Would you consider the Koch brothers as establishment or anti? I thought they were more establishment which is why I asked.

 

[rocketman]

Would you consider the Koch brothers as establishment or anti? I thought they were more establishment which is why I asked.

I'll answer your question with a question...Do you believe Trump is not part of the establishment? the ruling elite, or one that funds the ruling elite?

 

[kmoney]

I'll answer your question with a question...Do you believe Trump is not part of the establishment? the ruling elite, or one that funds the ruling elite?

Not sure. I think Trump is a mix. The 'establishment' clearly isn't supportive of his campaign and he's not part of the political ruling elite. He's coming from outside in that way. But that may not necessarily indicate that much. The reason behind that lack of support might be mostly because of his brashness and their fear that he's going to alienate people who may otherwise vote Republican. When it comes to actual policy positions he may not be far off. And if you're talking about funding the establishment then I wouldn't doubt that Trump has used his money to work with various 'elites' as you call them. But Trump is a business man. He's said that he works with and funds all sides. I don't think Trump can easily be pinned down. Which should probably worry his supporters. Does he truly stand for anything? It seems like he's flip-flopped on a few things during his campaign already.

 

[rocketman]

Not sure. I think Trump is a mix. The 'establishment' clearly isn't supportive of his campaign and he's not part of the political ruling elite. He's coming from outside in that way. But that may not necessarily indicate that much. The reason behind that lack of support might be mostly because of his brashness and their fear that he's going to alienate people who may otherwise vote Republican. When it comes to actual policy positions he may not be far off. And if you're talking about funding the establishment then I wouldn't doubt that Trump has used his money to work with various 'elites' as you call them. But Trump is a business man. He's said that he works with and funds all sides. I don't think Trump can easily be pinned down. Which should probably worry his supporters. Does he truly stand for anything? It seems like he's flip-flopped on a few things during his campaign already.

I'll tell you what it shows me...that the man has no principles at all if he feels that buying off politicians is the proper way to run a business or a country. You are correct though, Trump is not part of the good ole boys club yet but, that will come. :chuckle:

 

[Nick M]

I'll tell you what it shows me...that the man has no principles at all if he feels that buying off politicians is the proper way to run a business or a country. You are correct though, Trump is not part of the good ole boys club yet but, that will come. :chuckle:

If one expects to do business in Illinois, then the left gets paid first. That is just how it is. He isn't the first or the last.

 

[rocketman]

If one expects to do business in Illinois, then the left gets paid first. That is just how it is. He isn't the first or the last.

It is not a question of my understanding it Nick, it is a matter of principles....or the lack thereof that I question with Trump. I'll vote for the man if he is the nominees but, he does not represent my values....Just Sayin.

 

[shagster01]

Obama. Hillary was supposed to be the anointed one of the socialists. But the "rock star" crushed her from the onset of his campaign. For the record, Obama is the one that has leaked all of the information regarding her felonies with the email server.

So Biden/Warren will be the ticket. Bookmark this post.

Hey Nick, I did indeed bookmark this post. When are they going to announce this? It's getting awful late for newcomers now. . .

 

[chrysostom]

all the so called conservatives at tol
-who have complained about the republicans
-are now supporting trump
-who is not a conservative
-go figure

 

[ok doser]

all the so called conservatives at tol
-who have complained about the republicans
-are now supporting trump
-who is not a conservative
-go figure

he's the closest thing in the race at the moment :idunno:

 

[chrysostom]

you won't find the crusader in this thread

 

[Catholic Crusader]

you won't find the crusader in this thread

I'm right here fake phony Catholic.
You are actively helping Hillary, so obviously the creator of this thread was wrong.
Now what

 

[Rusha]

all the so called conservatives at tol
-who have complained about the republicans
-are now supporting trump
-who is not a conservative
-go figure

You haven't figure out why?
You need to
connect the dots.
to them, the dots don't
need to make sense.

Trump's a raging ball of hatred
towards anyone who refuses to cheer him.
Trump has an agenda to hurt
as many people as humanly possible ...
Just ask his first two wives ...

 

[rocketman]

Nevermind. Cruz turned out to be another homo-hugger.

How so?