ECT A challenge to Calvinism on limited atonement
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Sonnet
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There is no good news for the reprobate.
Or maybe you simply overlooked the entirety of the Old Testament and Revelationlain:
I don't think you realize it
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You are speaking to someone who is an orthodox Protestant- you are simply rolling out the Free Grace heresy to us.
We just don't do it. We're not going to say what sounds nice or what is attractive- we're going to tell you the real, actual reason why Christ was crucified
Your refusal to preach the same Gospel as Paul did satisfies the criterion for Paul's curse - as also noted by Patrick Jane.
You still have made no refutation of the specifics of the OP - and have not given one scripture that supports limited atonement.
Sonnet
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Mere assertion. Nowhere have you refuted the specifics of the OP.
I challenge you to provide one scripture that explicitly speaks of Christ's atonement being limited.
Sonnet
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Your refusal to preach the same Gospel as Paul did satisfies the criterion for Paul's curse.
Lon
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Acts 2:21 Romans 10:13
Sonnet
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...the real, actual reason why Christ was crucified
....You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly.
....Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
Sonnet
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The elected-
the real men
Real in what sense Crucible? The rest are not real?
Sonnet
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Contrary to your assertion, Paul and the Apostles did.
1 Corinthians 2:2
For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.
'Christ crucified' was, and is, preached to those that will never believe.
Your argument is with the likes of Saint Paul.
The elect are men with integrity- it is those whom God chooses, if you notice, throughout the Bible. Look at Sampson, or John.
It's not a hard concept
There's no such thing as the "Calvinist Elect." You guys give yourself false praise.
The elect are men with integrity- it is those whom God chooses, if you notice, throughout the Bible. Look at Sampson, or John.
It's not a hard concept
You compare YOURSELF to these and other great men of the Bible? I think not!
Nang
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John 5:21
Nang
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I proclaim the same Gospel Paul proclaimed, and I do so indiscriminately to all around me, but I have no knowledge of who listening have been given spiritual ears to hear and understand the message.
The promises of God are revealed in the Gospel, but only God knows who those are predestined to receive life in Jesus Christ. I speak the Truth, and leave grace and salvation in the hands of God.
Your threats of cursings is totally inappropriate . . .
Nang
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So you are testifying that God's will is not done?
Sonnet
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The elect are men with integrity- it is those whom God chooses, if you notice, throughout the Bible. Look at Sampson, or John.
It's not a hard concept
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Sonnet
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Nothing explicit there.
Sonnet
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So you preach, 'Christ died for our sins,' to unbelievers, but you also say that: "God promises them (reprobates) no good news ("gospel")...God's grace is Particular, period."
That's contradictory and not the same Gospel that Paul preached. Just read Romans 10.
Sonnet
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So the Gospel that you preach indiscriminately is:
Christ died for our sins...for particular persons - not for all men.
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