There is one intention for using the "n" word: to offend and degrade ALL black people. Explanations and defense of doing so are on the same level as pretending the Confederate Flag doesn't stand for racism.
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There is one intention for using the "n" word: to offend and degrade ALL black people. Explanations and defense of doing so are on the same level as pretending the Confederate Flag doesn't stand for racism.
glassjester
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There's only one intention for using the word? Every person uses the word with the same intent?
Are you sure? :think:
If you re-read my post you'll notice that I didn't defend its use at all.
As for explaining its use - well heck, you're explaining it right now.
They use the word KNOWING that it degrades and insults black people.
glassjester
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Even when black people say it?
After all, you said there's only one intent. And they know it degrades and insults black people.
glassjester
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By the way, I've heard white people use the word affectionately, and black people use it derogatorily. Haven't you?
glassjester
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I've even heard black people use it affectionately toward white people.
I think your "only one intent" theory is bogus.
I think your "only one intent" theory is bogus.
Arthur Brain
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Guy, that's exactly what an anecdote is. . . what it isn't is a rule, which can be illustrated by anecdote, but never arrived at by it.
Anecdote: based on or consisting of reports or observations of usually unscientific observers - Merriam Webster
The same reason I left the Republican Party, after the war, I think, well, maybe not :idunno:
Learning to diet by watching pigs eat :chew:
You're so anectdotal
Thirsty? Anyway, only in illustrating a rule. Speaking of...
ClimateSanity
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The intention of using the nword is to degrade inner city gangster culture. It certainly isn't used to degrade sub Saharan Africans or Aborigines.
ClimateSanity
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Anecdote does not make a rule is a deceptive tactic used to give the impression that the point is invalid.
TH believes the polls that say Trump has a 40% approval rating. He believes 60 % of Americans disapprove of trump based on the word if 500 people over a weeks time.
TH believes the polls that say Trump has a 40% approval rating. He believes 60 % of Americans disapprove of trump based on the word if 500 people over a weeks time.
ClimateSanity
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I've talked to over 500 white people who used the nword over my lifetime and yet he tries to invalidate that based on the idea of anecdote he does even abide by
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If I ever actually advance personal experience as more than than an illustration of that experience by all means quote me and note the problem and I'll happily retract the point.
Now back to you.
1. While you may have an impression of a large number of white people using the word it lacks all sorts of context and using a literal number or sense of it needs larger support.
By way of, I've heard it used by a large number of whites in my life. I've rarely heard it used by a white person affectionately. And it's not a word that carries a neutral expression. But without a larger context that's just my anecdotal impression.
2. What context would we need? Out of how many people you've met in total who found the use repugnant? How many used the word precisely as an insult? How many of the sample were indifferent to the word? That sort of thing.
3. We already have better actual data on the point. A lot of it, as it turns out.
One-third of whites admitted to using it at least once or twice in a five year period, according to the 2012 Cooperative Congressional Election Study. So forget 500, a third of whites is a pretty large number.
According to a wide sampling survey conducted by Unney and Feldman of Stony Brook University, in New York, about 40% of whites in their study admitted to believing "a little or more" that blacks are poor because of racial differences in intelligence. Or, around 40% of whites admitted to being a little or more racist.
Unsurprisingly, an Ipsus/Reuters poll conducted during the President's election run found that among his supporters around 40% believed blacks were simply more violent and lazier than whites. Or, around 40% of his supporters were admittedly racist, even if they didn't believe themselves to be (an interesting and different bit of polling data). They might not be aggressively racist, but they're at least in tune with the subtler advances of those who are and who are driven by that agenda. When you take that attitude and consider the implications it's both sad and serious.
Democrats come out usually ten to twenty percentage points less idiotic on the issue, but still have an alarming number of dunderheads in their company.
The good news is that no more than half of Trump supporters have an obvious and more seriously stupid issue relative to race, meaning that at least half (and a bit more on average) don't share the dangerous lunacy of that other, strong minority of Trump supporters who are disproportionately more likely to hold racist views.
So that's some progress.
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glassjester
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You're so vain, I bet you think this post is about you.
glassjester
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Wasn't it used before that culture arose?
And isn't it used in rural areas? Maybe even more in rural areas?
Well that's true.
glassjester
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That is a lot of people.
ClimateSanity
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It was used before the gangster culture arose and back then, it referred to all American blacks.
:chuckle::crackup:
Just go away.
You don't know @glassjester or the woman of whom he was speaking. Nor his relationship to her. So now you're being a hypocrite. Which is pretty typical for you.