Are you saying Peter got it wrong, or that we have a contradiction?
Or do you prefer to ignore Scripture that does not fit your world view?
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Are you saying Peter got it wrong, or that we have a contradiction?
Or do you prefer to ignore Scripture that does not fit your world view?
No, I'm saying you have it wrong and have a contradiction.
"the lamb was standing in the middle of the throne." I think the trins are getting a little help from the translators. No one stands in the middle of a throne. One sits on a throne. The evidence for Jesus being God is so feeble that you have to utilize ambiguous translations to present your case.
Isaiah never mentions Jesus. The servant in Isaiah is Israel.
You can't rely on what Stephen said....
Compare the following
Acts 7:15-16
15 And Jacob went down to Egypt and there he and our fathers died. 16 From there they were removed to Shechem and laid in the tomb which Abraham had purchased for a sum of money from the sons of Hamor in Shechem.
Genesis 33:18-19
Now Jacob came safely to the city of Shechem, which is in the land of Canaan, when he came from Paddan-aram, and camped before the city. He bought the piece of land where he had pitched his tent from the hand of the sons of Hamor, Shechem’s father, for one hundred pieces of money.
According to Stephen, Abraham bought the land at Shechem. But Genesis says Jacob bought the land.
SimpleMan77
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If you've been around sheep, you know that if one is a lamb, one doesn't sit on a throne. Would the sitting lamb have its front legs on the seat, on the arm rests, or in the air?
The Greek word actually means "in the middle, in the midst". The lamb was in the middle of the throne.
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SimpleMan77
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It's far more likely that whatever mistake was made should be credited to Luke or whoever relayed the event to him. I don't think that a stenographer was present, taking shorthand in real time. The words were written from the memory of someone present, and from the language it doesn't appear that Luke was there at the time. He, no doubt, got the story from someone who witnessed it.
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I agree.
Now you are getting ridiculous.
If Luke made the mistake, I wonder what other mistakes he may have made??????
I agree...you are correct.
SimpleMan77
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Of course there are other explanations that may make it possible that it wasn't a mistake, but it sure looks like someone relayed the info incorrectly.
God uses imperfect people to do a perfect work. It is important that "in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses ever Word be established". Doctrinal teachings are always backed up 2 or more times in scripture.
Take baptism in Jesus name, for example. Peter, Ananias, Phillip, and Paul all baptized that way. Jews, Samaritans, Gentiles and previously baptized people were all baptized that way.
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SimpleMan77
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lol. You are the one that said a lamb couldn't be standing in the midst of the throne because "one doesn't stand on a throne, one sits on a throne" (or wording similar).
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One quick scripture.
Acts 5:3-4 New King James Version (NKJV)
3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? 4 While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.”
Greetings Bright Raven,
The Apostle John has given an apt, simple but complete summary of the purpose and teaching of his Gospel record:
John 20:30-31 (KJV): 30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
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Trevor
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The Apostle John has given an apt, simple but complete summary of the purpose and teaching of his Gospel record:
John 20:30-31 (KJV): 30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Kind regards
Trevor
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So what are you trying to say? Or is it sufficient to just muddy the water so it looks like you answered but your answer is ambiguous?
keypurr
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Most of us were taught that in Sunday school, but it is not the truth. Jesus is the Christ, not God. It is hard to see beyond what tradition has instilled in out minds friend,, here on TOL we share and explore what we see in the scriptures. As the Apostle Paul tells us, we have one God, the Father, and one Lord, Jesus Christ. May the Lord open our eyes to his truth and give us a deeper understanding of his words.
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keypurr
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Welcome to TOL, I agree with you. There is only one true God as told in John 17:3.
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I agree.