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I well understand. It is easy to lose ones way when snared to a system that can't explain itself for as long as you have by ignoring its obvious error....
ECT Grace is unconditional but not universal
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Nang
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heir
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That's not what I asked. Answer the question:
"Must one trust the Lord believing the "entirety of the Holy Scriptures" to be saved?"
SaulToPaul 2
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How do I trust Gen 24:64 (KJV), Sister?
It does not make sense. I believe it, but I don't know how to trust it (Nang's claim)
Nang ONLY trusts in her regenerated Calvinist allies. Make no mistake about it, she is loyal to the "Calvinist party line."
HOW have those Scripture verses been exaggerated? Can you articulate the thoughts that brought you to this conclusion of yours? You can't just throw out a "blanket statement" and have it accepted without giving us some background on how you arrived at your conclusion?
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Wrong question.
Christians (regenerated souls) believe the entirety of Holy Scripture because they have been justified and raised to new spiritual life.
You have spiritual cause and effect all backwards . . .
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How do I trust Gen 24:64 (KJV), Sister?
It does not make sense. I believe it, but I don't know how to trust it (Nang's claim)
Do you consider yourself virtuous when you use the Words of God to ridicule?
Shame on you.
SaulToPaul 2
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How do you trust Gen 24:64 (KJV)?
SaulToPaul 2
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Nang's MO: Post beautifully pious & grandios statements. When we disagree, we get a "bah", or "you're blind".
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I trust it to be an accurate account of history as well as example of faithful acknowledgment of divine prophecy being fulfilled.
Calvinists ALWAYS use the same comeback,"You don't fully understand Calvinism." That's their favorite explanation.
You see folks, Calvinists, like Nang and her ilk, believe that one must be 'regenerated' BEFORE receiving saving faith. They come to that conclusion by eliminating the middle man so to say. The middle man being humanities free-will.
Yeah, she's very cranky.
If you look at the Calvinist belief system very close (as with a spiritual microscope) you'll see that it's extremely illogical, unreasonable and lacks common sense. They read the Bible and claim to see absolutely NO free-will coming from all of humanity. Yet, the entire Bible is filled to the brim with examples of mankind's free will. My favorite Scripture example is, Matthew 23:37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!"
You'll notice that Christ (God the Son) laments that Israel will not come and worship Him as they ought. Why? Because they "Chose" not to." I challenge ANY Calvinist to explain that verse any other way?
You'll notice that Christ (God the Son) laments that Israel will not come and worship Him as they ought. Why? Because they "Chose" not to." I challenge ANY Calvinist to explain that verse any other way?
Calvinism uses an elaborate filter system. They place a verse of Scripture in their "filtering device" then, it comes out of the other side, misrepresented/misinterpreted. It's really ingenius how it works. The problem is, it metamorphesizes into a false interpretation that fits into their "belief system" perfectly, at least according to their way of believing.
Both God and His Holy written Word is logical, reasonable, and accurate. Calvinism is the opposite. So, they must change the character and intent of God to resemble their "belief system" instead of the other way around.
There's no such thing as the "Calvinist Elect." God desires no one to perish. As per, 1 Timothy 2:4 "Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
God didn't "choose" who would be saved and who wouldn't before the foundation of the world. That's a complete fabrication and a misinterpretation of Scripture.
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