Sarah Palin endorses Trump

rocketman · Jan 23, 2016

Granite said:
If you put as much effort into empathy for the poor as opposed to sneering at them and our British cousins you'd make a bigger dent in the world.

Empathy never fed a single mouth and I certainly do not agree with socialism on the grounds of fairness, equality, ethics, or any other virtue "our British cousins" might want to tag it with. Socialism is their system, they can keep it, it is theirs, not ours and if they want to complain about our system then I will tell them to mind their own affairs.

Arthur Brain · Jan 23, 2016

ClimateSanity said:
Changing the subject doesn't help you out. No one is entitled to a living wage. If you are given a wage which is higher than the market will bear, then either you won't have a job for a long time or your employer will be out of business unless the government subsidies the business then you have a whole other set of problems.

Firstly, MacDonalds is hardly likely to go out of business. Hell, there's probably one in Bloody Antarctica. There's a new drive in one that's just recently opened up in my home town to go with the one that's already in the centre. I doubt anyone undertakes a job with such an establishment in the hopes of remaining there until pension age but that's besides the point. They should be entitled to a wage that's enough to live on. Considering how overpaid plenty of corporate fat cats are then why the hell not?

Oh, and she's just bat crazy. Seeing her fawn and eulogize over that dingbat Trump was cringeworthy.

Rusha · Jan 23, 2016

Arthur Brain said:
Oh, and she's just bat crazy. Seeing her fawn and eulogize over that dingbat Trump was cringeworthy.

Ah, but once again, she is in the news.

Arthur Brain · Jan 23, 2016

Rusha said:
Which is why it is best to get a union job ... two to three time higher wages, superior benefits and not as likely to be taken advantage of.

Oh, there's a reason why these places hire staff as young as they do, just like pub chains do. They can take advantage, offer crap wages and no grievance procedures because staff turnover runs like a conveyor belt...

Rusha · Jan 23, 2016

Arthur Brain said:
Oh, there's a reason why these places hire staff as young as they do, just like pub chains do. They can take advantage, offer crap wages and no grievance procedures because staff turnover runs like a conveyor belt...

Indeed ... they are the Phil Robertson's of the business world. The younger the employee, the easier they are to take advantage of and control.

aCultureWarrior · Jan 23, 2016

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Originally Posted by Arthur Brain
Good to know that working in fast food outlets doesn't or shouldn't entitle one to a 'living wage' though...

Rusha said:
Which is why it is best to get a union job ... two to three time higher wages, superior benefits and not as likely to be taken advantage of.

Plus your union dues line the pockets of those truly in need.

Rusha · Jan 23, 2016

aCultureWarrior said:
Plus your union dues line the pockets of those truly in need.

Indeed ... teachers, electricians, construction workers, truck drivers, cops ...

patrick jane · Jan 23, 2016

Arthur Brain said:
Oh, there's a reason why these places hire staff as young as they do, just like pub chains do. They can take advantage, offer crap wages and no grievance procedures because staff turnover runs like a conveyor belt...

Wal Mart just announced wage increases to reduce high turnover rates

Arthur Brain · Jan 23, 2016

Rusha said:
Indeed ... they are the Phil Robertson's of the business world. The younger the employee, the easier they are to take advantage of and control.

Yep. In the meantime executives of utility companies/banks/corporate industry get paid megabucks...

Rusha · Jan 23, 2016

patrick jane said:
Wal Mart just announced wage increases to reduce high turnover rates

So they say ...

My daughter worked there for a couple of years. Their preference is to hire part time workers in order to not pay benefits.

Arthur Brain · Jan 23, 2016

patrick jane said:
Wal Mart just announced wage increases to reduce high turnover rates

By how much? $0.02?

That'll take an hourly shift to $0.04 won't it?

OCTOBER23 · Jan 23, 2016

I like Sarah Palin , don't ya know.

Cause I like moose hunting from a Helicopter.

aCultureWarrior · Jan 23, 2016

Rusha said:
Indeed ... teachers, electricians, construction workers, truck drivers, cops ...

Convenience store clerks.

Remember what Art Brain said:

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Originally Posted by Arthur Brain
Good to know that working in ~~fast food outlets~~ a convenience store doesn't or shouldn't entitle one to a 'living wage' though...

patrick jane · Jan 23, 2016

Rusha said:
So they say ...

My daughter worked there for a couple of years. Their preference is to hire part time workers in order to not pay benefits.

Same as Home Depot

Rusha · Jan 23, 2016

aCultureWarrior said:
Convenience store clerks.

Remember what Art Brain said:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur Brain
Good to know that working in ~~fast food outlets~~ a convenience store doesn't or shouldn't entitle one to a 'living wage' though...

Oh. Your *argument* is that Sean Penn played a character who visited a convenience store.

Or did you just want to post a funny picture?

aCultureWarrior · Jan 23, 2016

Rusha said:
Oh. Your *argument* is that Sean Penn played a character who visited a convenience store.

Or did you just want to post a funny picture?

My point is that it's the employer, the one who has invested his finances and time into making his or her business succeed that decides what is fair to pay his employees. If the zit faced burger flipper at the fast food joint doesn't like it, there's the door.

Granite · Jan 23, 2016

Rusha said:
Indeed ... teachers, electricians, construction workers, truck drivers, cops ...

If he was ever a cop he'd have known that.

Granite · Jan 23, 2016

musterion said:
No you didn't. You thought you knew American history but you don't.

You're right: It took slightly over one hundred exact years.

Arthur Brain · Jan 23, 2016

rocketman said:
Empathy never fed a single mouth and I certainly do not agree with socialism on the grounds of fairness, equality, ethics, or any other virtue "our British cousins" might want to tag it with. Socialism is their system, they can keep it, it is theirs, not ours and if they want to complain about our system then I will tell them to mind their own affairs.

Britain is not "socialist" by any stretch, your skewed definition of the word notwithstanding...

patrick jane · Jan 23, 2016

Arthur Brain said:
Britain is not "socialist" by any stretch, your skewed definition of the word notwithstanding...

Your streets are filled with muslims, rapists

Sarah Palin endorses Trump

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