Targeting Christians?

Granite · Oct 3, 2015

musterion said:
That's the end goal. That's the method to their seeming madness.

Right, because being armed to the teeth's prevented them from doing anything so far.

But hey, if walking into a restaurant with a carbine is enough to make somebody think they're being "patriotic," well, that's swell. It just so happens they missed the boat.

We live in a surveillance society that can kill its citizens with impunity, and you guys think you're getting armed for a "war" against "tyranny." Lotsa luck with that. And way to be late to the party.

popsthebuilder · Oct 4, 2015

Nick M said:
The opposite is true. It is the left/liberals/socialists/heathen/agnostic/atheist/democrat/RINO trying to strip liberty so they can shut the down the gospel.

What does socialism have to do with religion?

popsthebuilder · Oct 4, 2015

bybee said:
It is CRIMINAL to deliberately leave vulnerable people unable to defend themselves. We have many mandated safety laws in case of fire and other possible emergencies, but, no protection against deranged individuals who come out of the woodwork.

That's because it is an attempt by the government to remove all guns owned by civilians

TomO · Oct 4, 2015

Truster said:
My statement is proven by the scriptures, but past experience informs me I'd be wasting my time in thinking you'd comprehend them.

Scumbag

If you knew how blessed I am by your words towards me you'd be infuriated.

Nah...Just continues to illustrate your "scumbaggedness".

musterion · Oct 4, 2015

Granite said:
Right, because being armed to the teeth's prevented them from doing anything so far.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2015/05/mass-killings-stopped-by-armed-citizens.html

I hope you get a time out for being deliberately lazy and stupid, you dimwitted child.

Granite · Oct 4, 2015

musterion said:
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2015/05/mass-killings-stopped-by-armed-citizens.html

I hope you get a time out for being deliberately lazy and stupid, you dimwitted child.

Once more:

We live in a surveillance state where they can spy on and kill us with impunity. If you ever paid attention to what I actually wrote (as opposed to your pinheaded quick scan of my words) you might actually cook up an appropriate response.

Frankly I don't really give a hoot in hell about some burglar who gets killed by a guy with a gun. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the star-spangled idiots who style themselves "patriots" fighting "tyranny." The tyranny showed up while these guys were at gun shows. We're the most heavily armed nation on earth and liberty's dead here. And guess what? They didn't need to take our guns, and they don't want to. They prefer we have them so we keep killing ourselves.

bybee · Oct 4, 2015

Granite said:
Once more:

We live in a surveillance state where they can spy on and kill us with impunity. If you ever paid attention to what I actually wrote (as opposed to your pinheaded quick scan of my words) you might actually cook up an appropriate response.

Frankly I don't really give a hoot in hell about some burglar who gets killed by a guy with a gun. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the star-spangled idiots who style themselves "patriots" fighting "tyranny." The tyranny showed up while these guys were at gun shows. We're the most heavily armed nation on earth and liberty's dead here. And guess what? They didn't need to take our guns, and they don't want to. They prefer we have them so we keep killing ourselves.

You need some fresh air!

Granite · Oct 4, 2015

bybee said:
You need some fresh air!

If you want to keep on humming "Everything is awesome" go right ahead.

bybee · Oct 4, 2015

Granite said:
If you want to keep on humming "Everything is awesome" go right ahead.

Have I done that?
My cup is half full.

Granite · Oct 4, 2015

bybee said:
Have I done that?
My cup is half full.

Which is swell. But this isn't a "half full" kind of thread, is it? I'd say the families of nine people are feeling pretty empty right about now.

bybee · Oct 4, 2015

Granite said:
Which is swell. But this isn't a "half full" kind of thread, is it? I'd say the families of nine people are feeling pretty empty right about now.

Agreed. But me wallowing in angst is not any help to them.
I'm thinking that the people who come to their aid to comfort and support them are offering comforting words not raging over injustice.
I do, on occasion rage over injustice. But I do not wish to allow it to consume me.

Granite · Oct 4, 2015

bybee said:
Agreed. But me wallowing in angst is not any help to them.
I'm thinking that the people who come to their aid to comfort and support them are offering comforting words not raging over injustice.
I do, on occasion rage over injustice. But I do not wish to allow it to consume me.

I just wish we got outraged over the right things. I feel fed up and disgusted with Oregon, just like I felt the one before, and the one before that. And I suspect I'll feel less angry when the next massacre happens. Which is sad commentary, if you think about it. Sooner or later this kind of bloodshed wears on you and the despair is what's left behind by the anger. And so we feel powerless and are told we can't do anything. And it continues. So it goes.

musterion · Oct 4, 2015

bybee said:
Agreed. But me wallowing in angst is not any help to them.

Right. We also have to do what we can to see that it never happens again, even if we'll never succeed.

Note Granite the Child says we're outraged over the wrong thing here.

This Charming Manc · Oct 4, 2015

Nicks just one of those deluded people who thinks anyone who disagrees with him is evil and involved in a conspiracy of evilness.

he also thinks that god agrees with everything he says

popsthebuilder said:
What does socialism have to do with religion?

bybee · Oct 4, 2015

Granite said:
I just wish we got outraged over the right things. I feel fed up and disgusted with Oregon, just like I felt the one before, and the one before that. And I suspect I'll feel less angry when the next massacre happens. Which is sad commentary, if you think about it. Sooner or later this kind of bloodshed wears on you and the despair is what's left behind by the anger. And so we feel powerless and are told we can't do anything. And it continues. So it goes.

Wait until you are 78 years old. One begins to realize that most struggles are jousts with windmills unless one has specific weapons to fight specific battles.
I have the vote. I stay informed in areas which concern me and hope to fight knee-jerk reactions with knowledge, that is, specific knowledge to specific situations.
I can't walk around angry at every awful occurrence in the world.
I have been gifted with the ability to see what is good in the midst of sorrow. It is a blessing.
Along with that, I do what I can to be helpful right where I am planted.
Victor Frankl helped me to stay alive at a dark place in my life.
I recommend his book "Man's Search For Meaning".

alwight · Oct 4, 2015

bybee said:
Yes. I have read that mortality rates go down when citizens are free to defend themselves.
I doubt that deranged individuals think about that.

Deranged individuals with a ready supply of guns requires another level of self defence.
In the US you have to defend against armed nutters and a gun culture that made the owning of guns acceptable to people who don't actually need them, not just the armed nutters.
Nutters drooling over their privately owned guns will one day probably want to use them against whoever happens to displease them whatever their country.
Norwegian nutter Anders Behring Breivik didn't like lefties rather than Christians so he shot them without mercy.

bybee · Oct 4, 2015

alwight said:
Deranged individuals with a ready supply of guns requires another level of self defence.
In the US you have to defend against armed nutters and a gun culture that made the owning of guns acceptable to people who don't actually need them, not just the armed nutters.
Nutters drooling over their privately owned guns will one day probably want to use them against whoever happens to displease them whatever their country.
Norwegian nutter Anders Behring Breivik didn't like lefties rather than Christians so he shot them without mercy.

What is in the heart and in the mind will find a weapon if it wants to.

alwight · Oct 4, 2015

bybee said:
What is in the heart and in the mind will find a weapon if it wants to.

Nutters with knives can't do it to as many people with so little effort.

bybee · Oct 4, 2015

alwight said:
Nutters with knives can't do it to as many people with so little effort.

logistically true but the results are still dead people.

Angel4Truth · Oct 4, 2015

alwight said:
Nutters with knives can't do it to as many people with so little effort.

Nutters with bombs are even more effortless and kill loads more people at once than guns.

Do you think they care that bomb-making is illegal?

Cars and planes work well for that end also, should we ban them?

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