IMJerusha
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Wait.....you think using Hebrew establishes our righteousness? Oh, you really are confused!
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Wait.....you think using Hebrew establishes our righteousness? Oh, you really are confused!
IMJerusha
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While you run around usurping Yeshua's authority from the Father and calling it your right by permission? Nah, I'm not buying this.
IMJerusha
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Your analogy as well as your interpretation of Scripture is incorrect because not all speed limits such as murder, covetousness, slander, theft, taking the Name of the Lord in vain, failing to forgive, etc. are now lawful. Yeshua's death for our sake did not remove our need to fear God and Yeshua stated this. “I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." Luke 12:4-5
IMJerusha
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You would think so.
So, in Yeshua, we're now legal to murder, steal, slander, covet, fornicate, etc. We no longer need to love God or our neighbor as ourself. Thanks for the clarification, albeit wrong. Do you ever read what you write or consider those you are leading astray?
You equate doing God's Will with being under the Law for salvation. That's so wrong it hurts.
IMJerusha
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Yeah, lawlessness is a lot of fun, isn't it? There's a price, however, just as there is a price for failing to forgive. You may wish to remember that while you're surfing along on your sin high.
IMJerusha
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This does not make God's Law something we can now be disobedient to unless you believe that the Ruach would lead us in disobedience to God's Law.
IMJerusha
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You've focused on the wrong part of that verse. The Law is not against God's promises so obedience to it, in Yeshua, isn't wrong. Ignoring the blood sacrifice of Yeshua once for all time is what's wrong. And now folks will be jumping on the words "once for all time" as though they are a permission to now do what ever we want against God's Will. That's a perversion. The Law required, in part, a blood sacrifice for sin. Yeshua fulfilled that requirement so folks going back to that were wrong/still living under the Law for the forgiveness of sin. No one can go back to that and if they try, they are subjecting Yeshua to shame, putting Him back on the Cross over and over.
“Therefore, my friends, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses." Acts 13:38-39
We are not set free to continue to sin as we choose. Refusing to forgive is not loving and the Law is summed up in love. Galatians 5:14 "For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' "
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you can't help but notice how much fun they are having with this thread
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I had figured it might be a threat to their beliefs
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I had figured it might be a threat to their beliefs
IMJerusha
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Well, yeah, I guess so.
IMJerusha
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Yes, they did, making God's Law, His Will, even more important in our lives in that as new creatures, that Law helps us to know what sin is so that we can, with the help of the Ruach, avoid as much of it as possible, not drench ourselves in it. That's why God wrote His Law on our hearts...so we would have no excuse for not knowing.
God's Truth
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Paul is speaking of the old law. The old law was not based on faith. A person could sin, give a sin offering, but not really be sorry for their sins.
Galatians 3:12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, "The person who does these things will live by them."
All those who are saved have to obey the law, the new law, the new law is in the New Covenant.
The new law is the law of the Spirit, see Romans 8:2, the perfect law, see James 1:25.
It is the law that gives freedom, see James 2:12.
It is the LAW that requires faith, see Romans 3:27.
It is the law of Christ, see 1 Corinthians 9:21, and Galatians 6:2.
......which sins are you not avoiding, not possible eh? perhaps you should make some sins venial and some mortal
You condemn yourself for if you obey the law you must live by them.
The SDA is controlled by a legalistic spirit...just leaving that church does not neccesarily free you from that spirit...you need deliverance.
It is a very powerful spirit.
SaulToPaul 2
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Totally...GT is G&P
God's Truth
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The Jews established their own righteousness BY obeying God's ceremonial commands.
When Jesus came, the Jews did not have faith that Jesus' blood cleans them and makes them righteous. The Jews wanted to keep getting circumcised, they wanted to keep adhering to the dietary law, they wanted to keep observing special days, doing various washings, and offer animal sacrifices.
Only faith in Jesus' blood makes us righteous...makes us clean, makes us justified.
I do not preach that we should get circumcised, or do any of the ceremonial works to justify us before God.
IMJerusha
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Sin is sin and God's Law identifies what God considers sin.
God's Truth
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I live by the new law.
Why don't you believe the scriptures that I gave about the new law?
It identifies sin but has no power to deliver you from it, Paul calls it the old written code which kills...it kills because nobody was ever able to obey them unto righteousness.
God's Truth
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I am not a SDA and I am not Grace and Peace.