Executing homosexuals

dave3712

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You advocate this?

Spoiler

Burning any yeast or honey in offerings to God (2:11) [Normal penalty.]

2. Failing to include salt in offerings to God (2:13) [Normal penalty.]

3. Eating fat (3:17) [That one's "a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live." All fat is to be saved for offerings to God. Normal penalty.]

4. Eating blood (3:17) [Normal penalty]

5. Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you’ve witnessed (5:1) ["They will be held responsible."]

6. Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you’ve been told about (5:1) [Which sounds like hearsay. At any rate, "they shall be held responsible."]

7. Touching an unclean animal (5:2) [NIV translates this as touching "the carcass" of an unclean animal. So if Rover dies, or you're a worker in a pork plant, you're in trouble here. Normal penalty.]

8. Carelessly making an oath (5:4) [Even if you don't realize you have. Normal penalty.]

9. Deceiving a neighbour about something trusted to them (6:2) [Return the item and a 20% penalty, plus normal penalty.]

10. Finding lost property and lying about it (6:3) [Return the item and a 20% penalty, plus normal penalty.]

11. Bringing unauthorised fire before God (10:1) [God will smite you.]

12. Letting your hair become unkempt (10:6) ["You will die" and God will be angry at everyone. May only apply to the priesthood.]

13. Tearing your clothes (10:6) ["You will die" and God will be angry at everyone. May only apply to the priesthood.]

14. Drinking alcohol in holy places (bit of a problem for Catholics, this ‘un) (10:9) ["You will die." May only apply to the priesthood.]

15. Eating an animal which doesn’t both chew cud and has a divided hoof (cf: camel, rabbit, pig) (11:4-7) ["You will be unclean.]

16. Touching the carcass of any of the above (problems here for rugby) (11:8) ["You will be unclean."]

17. Eating – or touching the carcass of – any seafood without fins or scales (11:10-12) ["You will be unclean."]

18. Eating – or touching the carcass of - eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, the red kite, any kind of black kite, any kind of raven, the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl, the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey, the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat. (11:13-19) ["You will be unclean."]

19. Eating – or touching the carcass of – flying insects with four legs, unless those legs are jointed (11:20-22) ["You will be unclean."]

20. Eating any animal which walks on all four and has paws (good news for cats) (11:27) ["You will be unclean." Also applies to touching their carcasses.]

21. Eating – or touching the carcass of – the weasel, the rat, any kind of great lizard,the gecko, the monitor lizard, the wall lizard, the skink and the chameleon (11:29) ["You will be unclean."]

22. Eating – or touching the carcass of – any creature which crawls on many legs, or its belly (11:41-42) ["You will be unclean."]

23. Going to church within 33 days after giving birth to a boy (12:4) [Actually, she's unclean a week, and then another 33 days. Then she has to offer up a sacrifice.]

24. Going to church within 66 days after giving birth to a girl (12:5) [Actually, she's unclean a week, and then another 66 days. Then she has to offer up a sacrifice.]

25. Having sex with your mother (18:7) [The penalty for all the sexual sins in ch. 18 is that the participants are to be "cut off" from their people. Some have additional penalties mentioned below.]

26. Having sex with your father’s wife (18:8) [In 20:11, both are to be put to death.]

27. Having sex with your sister (18:9) [In 20:17, if you marry her, both are to be "publicly removed from their people"]

28. Having sex with your granddaughter (18:10)

29. Having sex with your half-sister (18:11)

30. Having sex with your biological aunt (18:12-13) [In 20:19, he will be held responsible for the dishonor.]

31. Having sex with your uncle’s wife (18:14) [In 20:20, they are held responsible for the dishonor, "they will die childless"]

32. Having sex with your daughter-in-law (18:15) [In 20:12, both are to be put to death.]

33. Having sex with your sister-in-law (18:16) [In 20:21, if you marry her, "they will be childless."]

34. Having sex with a woman and also having sex with her daughter or granddaughter (bad news for Alan Clark) (18:17) [No specific penalty given, but per 20:14 if you marry both of them, all three of you are to be "burned in fire."]

35. Marrying your wife’s sister while your wife still lives (18:18)

36. Having sex with a woman during her period (18:19) [15:24 simply says the man will be considered unclean for 7 days. In 20:18, "Both of them are to be cut off from their people"]

37. Having sex with your neighbour’s wife (18:20) [In 20:10, both are to be put to death.]

38. Giving your children to be sacrificed to Molek (18:21) [In 20:2, the person is to be stoned to death.]

39. Having sex with a man “as one does with a woman” (18:22) [In 20:13, both are to be put to death.]

40. Having sex with an animal (18:23) [In 20:15, both are to be killed.]

41. Making idols or “metal gods” (19:4) [No penalty given.]

42. Reaping to the very edges of a field (19:9) [To be left for the poor. No penalty given.]

43. Picking up grapes that have fallen in your vineyard (19:10) [To be left for the poor. No penalty given.]

44. Stealing (19:11) [No penalty given.]

45. Lying (19:11) [No penalty given.]

46. Swearing falsely on God’s name (19:12) [No penalty given.]

47. Defrauding your neighbour (19:13) [No penalty given.]

48. Holding back the wages of an employee overnight (not well observed these days) (19:13) [No penalty given.]

49. Cursing the deaf or abusing the blind (19:14) [No penalty given.]

50. Perverting justice, showing partiality to either the poor or the rich (19:15) [No penalty given.]

51. Spreading slander (19:16) [No penalty given.]

52. Doing anything to endanger a neighbour’s life (19:16) [No penalty given.]

53. Seeking revenge or bearing a grudge (19:18) [No penalty given.]

54. Mixing fabrics in clothing (19:19) [No penalty given.]

55. Cross-breeding animals (19:19) [No penalty given.]

56. Planting different seeds in the same field (19:19) [No penalty given.]

57. Sleeping with another man’s slave (19:20) ["Due punishment," but not death, just a ram for sacrifice.]

58. Eating fruit from a tree within four years of planting it (19:23) [No penalty given. May only apply to fruit trees planted in Israel.]

59. Practising divination or seeking omens (tut, tut astrology) (19:26) [No penalty, but in 20:6 they will be "cut off from their people" by God. In 20:27, they are to be stoned to death.]

60. Trimming your beard (19:27) [No penalty given.]

61. Cutting your hair at the sides (19:27) [No penalty given.]

62. Getting tattoos (19:28) [No penalty given.]

63. Making your daughter prostitute herself (19:29) ["The land will turn to prostitution." No other penalty given.]

64. Turning to mediums or spiritualists (19:31) [No penalty given.]

65. Not standing in the presence of the elderly (19:32) [No penalty given.]

66. Mistreating foreigners – “the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born” (19:33-34) [No penalty given.]

67. Using dishonest weights and scales (19:35-36) [No penalty given.]

68. Cursing your father or mother (punishable by death) (20:9) [Death, as noted.]

69. Marrying a prostitute, divorcee or widow if you are a priest (21:7,13) [No penalty given.]

70. Entering a place where there’s a dead body as a priest (21:11) [I.e., if you're a priest. No penalty given.]

71. Slaughtering a cow/sheep and its young on the same day (22:28) [May apply only to sacrificial animals. No penalty given.]

72. Working on the Sabbath (23:3) [No penalty given.]

73. Blasphemy (punishable by stoning to death) (24:14) [Death.]

74. Inflicting an injury; killing someone else’s animal; killing a person must be punished in kind (24:17-22) [Killing someone means death. Injuring someone mean punishment in kind. Killing or injuring another's animal means punishment in kind.]

75. Selling land permanently (25:23) [No penalty given.]

76. Selling an Israelite as a slave (foreigners are fine) (25:42) [No penalty given.]

That's Sharia pretty much...
 

dave3712

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"He" (me) does not support the idea. The thread subject is perverted. The very idea of executing people who suffer from a disorder reeks of Nazism. Anyone seriously participating in such a discussion has a perverted mind.

zoo22, annabennetti, YOU... ...you all need your heads examined.

The point is that Judaism and Islam approached the solution with such reaction to the Gays/Feminists preaching of Sexual Freedom and their own outright demonstrations of sexual lewdness that hurts the children, while Christianity instructed people to just stand up to it and show the Truth of the abuse of the children because of it.


Westboro Church was using the Christian technique of the prophets who attracted public attention to this matter in order to get the opportunity to fit back against the powerful media forces which will not bring the other side to the fi[ore of the discussion.

But Bill O'reilly has begun to do so.
 

dave3712

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Indeed, isn't it nice to see how much Lighthouse has in common with those guys that flew a plane into our sorely missed towers?

Yeah.
That was why they did it.

They are reacting to the American feminist push into their country proselytizing for more overt sexual license under the guise of woman's liberation, while the Gays demanded their attention by marching down the middle of Jerusalem in front of the whole Middle East, demonstrating how powerful they are when banded together in spite they represent 5% of the population.

Islam does not believe the teaching of Jesus, which insist that all Islam need do is show the Facts and the Truth will change things.


Christian America has a second chance now to teach the Muslims that Jesus was correct, the Truth, alone, will set our nation free of these evils that hurt and abuse our children while draining the Tax Payers to support them with Welfare, HIV/AIDS treatments and drug, police forces, jails, etc...

The Truth, alone, will make force unnecessary, when other join Bill O'reily in explaining how fatherless kids are the Barbarians within our gates, and the how sexual license harms everyone, predicated on the CLAIM that women can do as they will with theirb odies
 

dave3712

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"He" (me) does not support the idea. In fact I have not even discussed the idea. The thread subject is perverted. The very idea of executing people who suffer from a disorder reeks of Nazism. Anyone seriously participating in such a discussion has a perverted mind.

zoo22, annabennetti, YOU... ...you all need your heads examined.

This is a very important topic for Christians to discuss with these gays an feminists, and referring to the other solution recommended by Islam, the killing of these types of people, Christians need explain that just reporting and spreading the Truth will do the job.

At the same time, Christians have a second chance to show Islam that force of Law does not save a nation, but the Truth will.
Force destroys and ignores the lesson that would bring willing change.

When Rev Martin Luther King demonstrated to Malcolm X that Civil Rights would come with a passive stand up for just telling the Truth, the Black Muslims saw Christ in action as his body appeared in massive number of believers who changed America.

We need this same thing behind Bill O'rielly right now.
 
The sin which homosexuality extends into the community is by promoting sexual promiscuity in general, and talking about the Gay Life, as they call it.

If these gays did things which are sinful in their own adult bedrooms remaining secret to themselves that would be tolerable.

But without Social Force that even threatens direct physical harm, they will advance their program.
They are the tip of the iceberg and the warning signal that the women have suppressed the men with a Politically Correct agenda of Rules passed by the public opinion the women have manufactured without discussion about the Child Abuse that comes with the liberalization of the Sexual Mores.

The Feminists require liberal sexual mores so they can essentially add to the cost of receiving their sexual favoritism, the power t direct the society into a socialism economically and a whoredom that abused their own children in every way.

It is good that queers defend their OUT in public demands so we can examine the results of raising kids seeped in the sexual irresponsibility called sexual freedom.

And just how much do you think about what goes on in the bedrooms of straight couples? When you meet a straight couple for the first time, is the first thing that comes into your mind what they must be doing in their bedroom every night? If so, then you really need to get your mind out of the gutter.

Some of the more "extreme" displays may likely have to do with a demand to be noticed by the rest of society. Sort of like screaming out "AM I IN THE ROOM?" (Also note that "extreme" things like BDSM and other fetishistic behavior is most certainly NOT restricted to the gay community.)

Forcing homosexuals to hide their orientation and to pretend to be straight has its own harmful effects - just as Mrs. McGreevey (wife of former NJ governor James McGreevey, who came out as gay after being involved in a sex scandal and being forced to resign). Who ends up in what ultimately turns out to be an unfulfilling marriage because the desire from the husband simply isn't there - he would prefer a man instead, but he only married her to keep up appearances. Had our society simply accepted who he was instead, there would have been no need for him to do anything like that.
 

Lighthouse

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Sorry, I didn't have the patience to read all of what you said here!
I'm almost certain it's more of the same! Like I said before, "I
really don't respect your opinion and find you rather uninteresting!"
However, I do appreciate your continued practice of attempting
to annoy the daylights out of me; it shows you have a degree
of consistency in your motives!
:rotfl:

Lighthouse certainly enjoys lowering himself to the point
of unbridled name calling! He sounds as if he's suffering
from copious amounts of uncontrollable frustration and
angst! Is it possible for him, to even have a single discussion
without resorting to angry name calling? He's a bit uptight
and should try to do some relaxation techniques!

Lighthouse, I wish you no ill will; I'd like to see you
a little less fussy about others! Hopefully, you'll
work on that, and perhaps learn to compromise
a bit! As you get older, you'll find out that life
is easier if you learn to cope with your
inner turmoils, with a little more self-restraint!
I never name-call when I'm angry. I've always refused to do that, even to those who are adversarial to myself.

If I ever name-call it is because the person is truly an idiot/moron/imbecile/etc. and it needs to be said.

I have plenty of conversations with people who are not, and never once do I call them such names. If you don't believe me see my arguments with Christian Liberty.

No you don't. Granite doesn't have any idea. He thinks my Asperger's precludes me from admitting error, which is ironic because we wouldn't be arguing about this issue here if I never admitted error.

And to top off the sundae, Knight calls Granite an idiot. Knight doesn't call people names very often. He reserves it for people he really believes deserve it.

You advocate this?

Spoiler

Burning any yeast or honey in offerings to God (2:11) [Normal penalty.]

2. Failing to include salt in offerings to God (2:13) [Normal penalty.]

3. Eating fat (3:17) [That one's "a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live." All fat is to be saved for offerings to God. Normal penalty.]

4. Eating blood (3:17) [Normal penalty]

5. Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you’ve witnessed (5:1) ["They will be held responsible."]

6. Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you’ve been told about (5:1) [Which sounds like hearsay. At any rate, "they shall be held responsible."]

7. Touching an unclean animal (5:2) [NIV translates this as touching "the carcass" of an unclean animal. So if Rover dies, or you're a worker in a pork plant, you're in trouble here. Normal penalty.]

8. Carelessly making an oath (5:4) [Even if you don't realize you have. Normal penalty.]

9. Deceiving a neighbour about something trusted to them (6:2) [Return the item and a 20% penalty, plus normal penalty.]

10. Finding lost property and lying about it (6:3) [Return the item and a 20% penalty, plus normal penalty.]

11. Bringing unauthorised fire before God (10:1) [God will smite you.]

12. Letting your hair become unkempt (10:6) ["You will die" and God will be angry at everyone. May only apply to the priesthood.]

13. Tearing your clothes (10:6) ["You will die" and God will be angry at everyone. May only apply to the priesthood.]

14. Drinking alcohol in holy places (bit of a problem for Catholics, this ‘un) (10:9) ["You will die." May only apply to the priesthood.]

15. Eating an animal which doesn’t both chew cud and has a divided hoof (cf: camel, rabbit, pig) (11:4-7) ["You will be unclean.]

16. Touching the carcass of any of the above (problems here for rugby) (11:8) ["You will be unclean."]

17. Eating – or touching the carcass of – any seafood without fins or scales (11:10-12) ["You will be unclean."]

18. Eating – or touching the carcass of - eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, the red kite, any kind of black kite, any kind of raven, the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl, the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey, the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat. (11:13-19) ["You will be unclean."]

19. Eating – or touching the carcass of – flying insects with four legs, unless those legs are jointed (11:20-22) ["You will be unclean."]

20. Eating any animal which walks on all four and has paws (good news for cats) (11:27) ["You will be unclean." Also applies to touching their carcasses.]

21. Eating – or touching the carcass of – the weasel, the rat, any kind of great lizard,the gecko, the monitor lizard, the wall lizard, the skink and the chameleon (11:29) ["You will be unclean."]

22. Eating – or touching the carcass of – any creature which crawls on many legs, or its belly (11:41-42) ["You will be unclean."]

23. Going to church within 33 days after giving birth to a boy (12:4) [Actually, she's unclean a week, and then another 33 days. Then she has to offer up a sacrifice.]

24. Going to church within 66 days after giving birth to a girl (12:5) [Actually, she's unclean a week, and then another 66 days. Then she has to offer up a sacrifice.]

25. Having sex with your mother (18:7) [The penalty for all the sexual sins in ch. 18 is that the participants are to be "cut off" from their people. Some have additional penalties mentioned below.]

26. Having sex with your father’s wife (18:8) [In 20:11, both are to be put to death.]

27. Having sex with your sister (18:9) [In 20:17, if you marry her, both are to be "publicly removed from their people"]

28. Having sex with your granddaughter (18:10)

29. Having sex with your half-sister (18:11)

30. Having sex with your biological aunt (18:12-13) [In 20:19, he will be held responsible for the dishonor.]

31. Having sex with your uncle’s wife (18:14) [In 20:20, they are held responsible for the dishonor, "they will die childless"]

32. Having sex with your daughter-in-law (18:15) [In 20:12, both are to be put to death.]

33. Having sex with your sister-in-law (18:16) [In 20:21, if you marry her, "they will be childless."]

34. Having sex with a woman and also having sex with her daughter or granddaughter (bad news for Alan Clark) (18:17) [No specific penalty given, but per 20:14 if you marry both of them, all three of you are to be "burned in fire."]

35. Marrying your wife’s sister while your wife still lives (18:18)

36. Having sex with a woman during her period (18:19) [15:24 simply says the man will be considered unclean for 7 days. In 20:18, "Both of them are to be cut off from their people"]

37. Having sex with your neighbour’s wife (18:20) [In 20:10, both are to be put to death.]

38. Giving your children to be sacrificed to Molek (18:21) [In 20:2, the person is to be stoned to death.]

39. Having sex with a man “as one does with a woman” (18:22) [In 20:13, both are to be put to death.]

40. Having sex with an animal (18:23) [In 20:15, both are to be killed.]

41. Making idols or “metal gods” (19:4) [No penalty given.]

42. Reaping to the very edges of a field (19:9) [To be left for the poor. No penalty given.]

43. Picking up grapes that have fallen in your vineyard (19:10) [To be left for the poor. No penalty given.]

44. Stealing (19:11) [No penalty given.]

45. Lying (19:11) [No penalty given.]

46. Swearing falsely on God’s name (19:12) [No penalty given.]

47. Defrauding your neighbour (19:13) [No penalty given.]

48. Holding back the wages of an employee overnight (not well observed these days) (19:13) [No penalty given.]

49. Cursing the deaf or abusing the blind (19:14) [No penalty given.]

50. Perverting justice, showing partiality to either the poor or the rich (19:15) [No penalty given.]

51. Spreading slander (19:16) [No penalty given.]

52. Doing anything to endanger a neighbour’s life (19:16) [No penalty given.]

53. Seeking revenge or bearing a grudge (19:18) [No penalty given.]

54. Mixing fabrics in clothing (19:19) [No penalty given.]

55. Cross-breeding animals (19:19) [No penalty given.]

56. Planting different seeds in the same field (19:19) [No penalty given.]

57. Sleeping with another man’s slave (19:20) ["Due punishment," but not death, just a ram for sacrifice.]

58. Eating fruit from a tree within four years of planting it (19:23) [No penalty given. May only apply to fruit trees planted in Israel.]

59. Practising divination or seeking omens (tut, tut astrology) (19:26) [No penalty, but in 20:6 they will be "cut off from their people" by God. In 20:27, they are to be stoned to death.]

60. Trimming your beard (19:27) [No penalty given.]

61. Cutting your hair at the sides (19:27) [No penalty given.]

62. Getting tattoos (19:28) [No penalty given.]

63. Making your daughter prostitute herself (19:29) ["The land will turn to prostitution." No other penalty given.]

64. Turning to mediums or spiritualists (19:31) [No penalty given.]

65. Not standing in the presence of the elderly (19:32) [No penalty given.]

66. Mistreating foreigners – “the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born” (19:33-34) [No penalty given.]

67. Using dishonest weights and scales (19:35-36) [No penalty given.]

68. Cursing your father or mother (punishable by death) (20:9) [Death, as noted.]

69. Marrying a prostitute, divorcee or widow if you are a priest (21:7,13) [No penalty given.]

70. Entering a place where there’s a dead body as a priest (21:11) [I.e., if you're a priest. No penalty given.]

71. Slaughtering a cow/sheep and its young on the same day (22:28) [May apply only to sacrificial animals. No penalty given.]

72. Working on the Sabbath (23:3) [No penalty given.]

73. Blasphemy (punishable by stoning to death) (24:14) [Death.]

74. Inflicting an injury; killing someone else’s animal; killing a person must be punished in kind (24:17-22) [Killing someone means death. Injuring someone mean punishment in kind. Killing or injuring another's animal means punishment in kind.]

75. Selling land permanently (25:23) [No penalty given.]

76. Selling an Israelite as a slave (foreigners are fine) (25:42) [No penalty given.]

  1. I don't know where exactly you got all of these. It'd be nice if you'd put the Book where these could be found.
  2. In just reading a few I know I do not advocate a great many of them. Are you smart enough to reason why? If not I'll explain it to you.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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:rotfl:


I never name-call when I'm angry. I've always refused to do that, even to those who are adversarial to myself.

If I ever name-call it is because the person is truly an idiot/moron/imbecile/etc. and it needs to be said.

I have plenty of conversations with people who are not, and never once do I call them such names. If you don't believe me see my arguments with Christian Liberty.

Oh, you have, Asperger'sAsperger's precludes me from admitting error, which is ironic because we wouldn't be arguing about this issue here if I never admitted error.

And to top off the sundae, Knight calls Granite an idiot. Knight doesn't call people names very often. He reserves it for people he really believes deserve it.



  1. I don't know where exactly you got all of these. It'd be nice if you'd put the Book where these could be found.
  2. In just reading a few I know I do not advocate a great many of them. Are you smart enough to reason why? If not I'll explain it to you.

Oh, you have Asperger's! Why didn't you say so? Isn't that the
disease where you have uncontrollable cursing/name calling and such?
 

Lighthouse

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Oh, you have Asperger's! Why didn't you say so? Isn't that the
disease where you have uncontrollable cursing/name calling and such?
First off, neither condition is a disease. Secondly, you're thinking of Tourette's. But I can understand why someone as ignorant as you wouldn't know these things.
 

Granite

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Oh, you have Asperger's! Why didn't you say so? Isn't that the
disease where you have uncontrollable cursing/name calling and such?

No, but it does explain his consistent inability to admit mistakes, bad manners, and his completely undeserved arrogance.
 

Lighthouse

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Thanks for your professional opinion! Coming from you it makes
me feel like I have an IQ of 180!
It's not a professional opinion, it's an expert opinion. Because I've studied everything I could about it since it was first suggested to me I might have it.

Interesting that you've decided to derail yet another thread.

You're going back on ignore. You're too stupid to communicate.
 
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