ECT Why Won't MAD Folks Address 2 Peter 3:15?

SaulToPaul 2

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Jesus outranks Paul.

in any case, it is not blasphemy to claim to be a flesh Jew, but it is blasphemy to claim one is a spiritual Jew when one is not.

LA

It amazes me that LA, the Great spiritual Giant, and judge of all Mankind, would make such an "argument".
 
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andyc

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Do you see Paul referring to Israel as Israel or to Jews as Jews in his later letters? Yes or no.

No.

Which is why we are focusing on your reasoning why not.

Yep. The very reason why we see no references to Israel as Israel or to Jews as Jews* in Paul's final letters.

How can something that is a physical reality no longer be a physical reality?

As I said, Paul refers to them as his brethren according to the flesh. How can that change?

I also showed that Luke and Paul referred to them as Jews in Acts 28, about the time Paul was writing his later epistles.
 

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It amazes me that LA, the Great spiritual Giant, and judge of all Mankind, would make such an "argument".

Only those claiming to be a spiritual Jew when they are not, would say such things.

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

You are slacking off on your defamatory statements in your neg repping.

Are you sick?

1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

LA
 

musterion

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Are you sick?

1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

Another thinly veiled death threat. You just cannot learn.
 

SaulToPaul 2

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Only those claiming to be a spiritual Jew when they are not, would say such things.

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

You are slacking off on your defamatory statements in your neg repping.

Are you sick?

1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

LA

LA, the Great: "Jesus outranks Paul."

Silly "argument".
 

Jerry Shugart

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Did Peter preach a different gospel to the Galatians and therefore fall under Paul's anathema?

Do you have any evidence that Peter preached any gospel to the Gentiles at Galatia?

During the Acts period the gospel which Peter preached is the truth that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. That is not the same gospel which Paul preached to the Gentiles during that time, that the believer is "justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Ro.3:24).
 

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Only those claiming to be a spiritual Jew when they are not, would say such things.

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

You are slacking off on your defamatory statements in your neg repping.

Are you sick?

1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

LA

It does not look like a death threat to me.

Here is what you should do if you are sick because of not discerning the Lords body--

That is if you do not judge yourself correctly and think to partake of the Lords Spirit and feed on His word and obey it--

Jas 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
Jas 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
Jas 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Think on this--

1Co 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
1Co 11:32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.



LA
 

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1. Your false gospel
2. Your thinly veiled, and not so thinly veiled, threats to posters
3. Your belief, and statement, that you are better than the rest of us

I only saying the same as Jesus said.

and you only saying what the unbelievers said.


LA
 

Lazy afternoon

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To the lost sheep of the house of Israel, which you are not.

After Jesus ministered to the lost sheep of the House of Israel , in Israel, the Lord sent His disciples into all of the world, to the lost sheep and to all peoples with His unchanging Gospel to this very day.


And, you reject the gospel preached by Paul, to you.

You lie of course, because I accept Paul's gospel which is the same as the Gospel all of the Apostles preached from the beginning.--

Act 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
Act 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
Act 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Act 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Act 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.


Act 15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
Act 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
Act 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
Act 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
Act 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Act 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.



Act 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.


LA
 

SaulToPaul 2

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After Jesus ministered to the lost sheep of the House of Israel , in Israel, the Lord sent His disciples into all of the world, to the lost sheep and to all peoples with His unchanging Gospel to this very day.

Matthew 10:23 (KJV)

Second Coming, not Pentecost.

Face it.
 
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