Why men won't marry you

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[Why men won't marry you by Suzanne Venker mentioned on Dennis Prager radio 6 May 15] "Where have all the husbands gone?

That’s a question Peter Lloyd tackles in a series in London’s Daily Mail about Britain’s marriage rate, which is at its lowest level since 1895. “The state of matrimony is not just ailing. It is dying out faster than a mobile phone battery,” Lloyd writes. “For an army of women, Mr. Right is simply not there, no matter how hard they look for him.”

Things are no better this side of the Atlantic. According to Pew Research Center, the share of American adults who’ve never been married is at an historic high—and men are more likely than women to have never made it down the aisle (23% vs. 17% in 2012).

There was a time when wives respected their husbands. There was a time when wives took care of their husbands as they expected their husbands to take care of them.

What gives? Why are men here and abroad avoiding the altar in spades?

1. Because they can: Men used to marry to have sex and a family. They married for love, too, but they had to marry the girl before taking her to bed, or at least work really, really hard to wear her down. Those days are gone.

When more women make themselves sexually available, the pool of marriageable men diminishes. “In a world where women do not say no, the man is never forced to settle down and make serious choices,” writes George Gilder, author of "Men and Marriage."

Scoff if you wish. Call me a fuddy-duddy. But how’s that new plan working out?

2. Because there’s nothing in it for them: What exactly does marriage offer men today? “Men know there’s a good chance they’ll lose their friends, their respect, their space, their sex life, their money and — if it all goes wrong — their family,” says Helen Smith, Ph.D., author of "Men on Strike." “They don’t want to enter into a legal contract with someone who could effectively take half their savings, pension and property when the honeymoon period is over.Men aren’t wimping out by staying unmarried or being commitment phobes. They’re being smart.”

Unlike women, men lose all power after they say “I do.” Their masculinity dies, too.

What’s left of it, that is. In the span of just a few decades, America has demoted men from respected providers and protectors of the family to superfluous buffoons. Today’s sitcoms and commercials routinely paint a portrait of the idiot husband whose wife is smarter and more capable than he.

There was a time when wives respected their husbands. There was a time when wives took care of their husbands as they expected their husbands to take care of them.

Or perhaps therein lies the rub. If women no longer expect or even want men to “take care of” them — since women can do everything men can do and better, thank you very much, feminism — perhaps the flipside is the assumption that women don’t need to take care of husbands, either. And if no one’s taking care of anyone, why the hell marry?

For women, the reason is obvious: kids. Eventually most women decide they want children, no matter how long they put it off to focus on their careers. So they often nab the best guy they can find, usually the one with whom they’re currently sleeping, and convince him to get married.

If the man refuses, we call him, as Smith notes, a “commitment phobe.” But is that fair? Perhaps these men know all too well that women initiate the vast majority of divorces — anywhere from 65-90 percent, depending on demographics. And when they do, they take the kids with them and hang hubby out to dry with the help of a court system that’s heavily stacked in their favor. In the past, Mom got the kids because she was home with them doing the thankless, unpaid, mountainous work associated with that role. Today, neither parent is home, so there’s no reason the default custodial parent should be Mom.

So remind me, why would a man marry today?

No, really. What’s in it for him?" Article Heb 13:4
 
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Quetzal

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“They don’t want to enter into a legal contract with someone who could effectively take half their savings, pension and property when the honeymoon period is over.Men aren’t wimping out by staying unmarried or being commitment phobes. They’re being smart.”
This right here in combination with...

Perhaps these men know all too well that women initiate the vast majority of divorces — anywhere from 65-90 percent, depending on demographics.
Women have a distinct legal advantage in regards to divorce hearings as well as child custody.
 

serpentdove

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Perhaps we should adopt sharia law?

That'll show those headstrong women!

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Because our culture is superior to theirs (Lk 17:26). :rolleyes:

See:

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Because our culture is superior (Lk 17:26). :rolleyes:

Your article didn't mention tax breaks and two income families are a must now days.

And to think my dad used to make 2.25 an hour and my mom was a homemaker.....:think:...dem days is gone!
 

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Perhaps we should adopt sharia law?

That'll show those headstrong women!

That would be much easier than teaching boys/men they are deserving of as much respect as they grant to others ...

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rougueone

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Then the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; nI will make him a helper fit for him.” genesis 2:18.

1 Peter 3:1-22 - Likewise, ye wives, [be] in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives.

Ephesians 5:33 - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife [see] that she reverence [her] husband.

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body.


Gods words are obvious.

Sadly these instructions are ignored by the church. Men are second class people as our social structure of the world has made clear. And men have bought into this lie as well as women.
 

rougueone

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:thumb: 1 Pe 3:7, Pr 31

Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
Like wise humans give honor and submit to God as the " weaker-needing" vessel. Giving honor to our wife is taking care of her, protecting her, and loving her as the weaker vessel thus Glorifying God.
The wife knowing that God has given the man authority, ( not a dictator) over the woman. let's the husband have the final say as the authority. And MEN you better be doing this and doing this with Gods love for your wife. Thus, the man honor's such a woman, and in this honor, the man recognizes the extreme responsibility he has been given in this authority.
 

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Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
Like wise humans give honor and submit to God as the " weaker-needing" vessel. Giving honor to our wife is taking care of her, protecting her, and loving her as the weaker vessel thus Glorifying God.
The wife knowing that God has given the man authority, ( not a dictator) over the woman. let's the husband have the final say as the authority. And MEN you better be doing this and doing this with Gods love for your wife. Thus, the man honor's such a woman, and in this honor, the man recognizes the extreme responsibility he has been given in this authority.
:thumb: All will give an account (Deut. 10:18, 1 Pe 4:5).
 

republicanchick

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[Why men won't marry you by Suzanne Venker] "Where have all the husbands gone?

That’s a question Peter Lloyd tackles in a series in London’s Daily Mail about Britain’s marriage rate, which is at its lowest level since 1895. “The state of matrimony is not just ailing. It is dying out faster than a mobile phone battery,” Lloyd writes. “For an army of women, Mr. Right is simply not there, no matter how hard they look for him.”

Things are no better this side of the Atlantic. According to Pew Research Center, the share of American adults who’ve never been married is at an historic high—and men are more likely than women to have never made it down the aisle (23% vs. 17% in 2012).

There was a time when wives respected their husbands. There was a time when wives took care of their husbands as they expected their husbands to take care of them.

What gives? Why are men here and abroad avoiding the altar in spades?

1. Because they can: Men used to marry to have sex and a family. They married for love, too, but they had to marry the girl before taking her to bed, or at least work really, really hard to wear her down. Those days are gone.

When more women make themselves sexually available, the pool of marriageable men diminishes. “In a world where women do not say no, the man is never forced to settle down and make serious choices,” writes George Gilder, author of "Men and Marriage."

] Heb 13:4

and women are supposed to WANT these creatures?

well, I haven't "wanted" one in many, many years.. except as a friend, but of course, that is not feasible.. being friends w/ the opp sex.. doesn't usually work out well

I like men from a distance.. like watching them on Fox News.. lots of interesting men on Fox..

and I can enjoy them w/o having to ... well, you know how it goes when you are closely involved w/ someone of the opposite sex..

the devil is in the details..

dirty socks thrown on the living room floor, incessant mentioning of the ex girlfriend.. not wanting commitment... etc... etc..


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TrakeM

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You're not without your point, but I'd like to add a bit to this.

There are men that women love. There are men that women want to marry. If you draw a Venn diagram the overlap isn't very large. Thus, women sleep with every cocky jerk they can find when they're young and wonder where the beta providers are when they get ready to marry. Beta providers, generally being stupid, marry whatever heartless woman gives them the time of day first. Thing is, because women pay so little attention to beta providers, there aren't enough to go around. Of course, the beta providers dumb enough to marry pay for it in the courts.

Women with poor career prospects aren't marrying. With the courts the way they are even beta providers aren't THAT dumb. Thus, the women with poor career prospects generally have a child alone. Why not? They don't have much chance at a decent husband. Waiting to have children offers no advantage.
 
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