Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 3

[alwight]

Please continue with your brilliant 'logic' as to why homosexuality shouldn't be recriminalized.

That would be rather like explaining logically why left handed people shouldn't be criminalised.lain:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
I shared an ex lesbians story of what you call "freedom", I was hoping that you could give us some details of what a really really good lesbian relationship is like.

Share your own details about a really good lesbian relationship. Obviously the details are important to you.

The last time I used the restroom facilities and checked, I still have the same 'plumbing' that I was born with, henceforth making it impossible for me to be a lesbian (Sandy obviously needs to go to LGBTQueer birds and bees school to understand what a lesbian is).

Since you can't tell us how wonderful the lesbian lifestyle is, I guess those who are objectively following this thread will just have to take the word of the many ex-lesbians whose stories I've presented and believe that the lifestyle is

"a life of living hell, suffering, darkness, smashed dreams, and lasting regret."
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4228295&postcount=5821

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
No comment on your LGBTQueer allies threatening a Christian pastor and his family with rape and murder?

You are making things up again. They are not my allies. Murder and rape is bad. Therefore, threats of rape and murder are bad.

So the fore-fairies of the LGBTQueer movement who are responsible for the so-called 'rights' that the sexual anarchist movement has today who harassed and continue to intimidate anyone that speaks out against homosexual are all of the sudden your enemies Sandy?

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Are you sure you're cut out for the culture war Sandy?

You seem to be confusing me for someone who would waste their time *fighting* in your imaginary war.

You're not the brightest bulb that the LGBTQueer movement has when it comes to debate, but hey, I've given Art Brain quite a bit of time so I figured I might as well do the same for you.

Thanks for stopping by.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote; Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

I think I'm beginning to understand what Libertarian "freedom" really means Jr.:

The "freedom" to kill yourself, family and marital relationships and society in general (aCW slaps himself on the forehead and says: "And here I thought that was slavery...silly me.").

Now that I understand what "Libertarian freedom" really means, can we talk about those pesky age of consent laws, as children have every right to be "free" as well.

Children are not adults and so certain restrictions that wouldn't be OK for adults are OK for kids, because they aren't ready to consent to potentially life-destroying choices.

But but but Jr., your fellow Libertarian and former North American Man Boy Love Association spokesman Joe Powers didn't have a problem with it back in 1995 when he was interviewed in Spy Magazine:

http://exiledonline.com/great-momen...ambla-spokesman-declares-himself-libertarian/

Nor did the pederast Greeks when they made their boys warriors (and topped it off by sodomizing them).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece

And and and let's not forget you and Ron Paul's favorite religion (Islam) where having sex with young girls (as long as you're married to the 9 year old) and sex with young boys is acceptable.
http://www.islam-watch.org/Amarkhan/pedophilia-in-islam/pedophilia-islam.htm

So once again: Without borrowing off of Judeo-Christian doctrine, tell us why sex with underage children/youth is wrong.

I'm not so sure adultery qualifies as a victimless crime, but at any rate, libertarianism says that for an action to be illegal, someone's rights should have been violated. If that is not the case, there should be no crime. Thus, actions like consensual prostitution, homosexuality, and recreational drug use,

You should have seen that heroin overdose that my partner and I dealt with the other day. As he lay their dying, he turned several shades of blue. I would have loved it had you been there so I could have taken you by the neck and shoved your face within an inch of his to see what death really looks like.

while immoral and things that should be discouraged in society, would be outside the realm of things that government should use the sword to prevent.

Because we all know that this

is much more powerful then this:

 

[GFR7]

"The GFR7 School of Boycott"? (GFR7's boycott lasted almost a week, but then GFR7 was probably busy cruising the bars, public toilets and parks of Provincetown and didn't have time to blog).

I simply couldn't find anything close to your power of allurement, so I came back, realizing "it is better to have aCW in open rebuke, than Ptown, carefully concealed. "

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
"The GFR7 School of Boycott"? (GFR7's boycott lasted almost a week, but then GFR7 was probably busy cruising the bars, public toilets and parks of Provincetown and didn't have time to blog).

I simply couldn't find anything close to your power of allurement, so I came back, realizing "it is better to have aCW in open rebuke, than Ptown, carefully concealed. "

i.e. GFR7 is drawn to the truth (let's hope that someday before it's too late for him and our once great nation that he accepts it).

 

[Omniskeptical]

alas, he is advertising the faggotry lifestyle again.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Quote; Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

I think I'm beginning to understand what Libertarian "freedom" really means Jr.:

The "freedom" to kill yourself, family and marital relationships and society in general (aCW slaps himself on the forehead and says: "And here I thought that was slavery...silly me.").

Now that I understand what "Libertarian freedom" really means, can we talk about those pesky age of consent laws, as children have every right to be "free" as well.



But but but Jr., your fellow Libertarian and former North American Man Boy Love Association spokesman Joe Powers didn't have a problem with it back in 1995 when he was interviewed in Spy Magazine:

http://exiledonline.com/great-momen...ambla-spokesman-declares-himself-libertarian/

Nor did the pederast Greeks when they made their boys warriors (and topped it off by sodomizing them).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece

You're assuming that everyone with the label "libertarian" believes the same thing.

And and and let's not forget you and Ron Paul's favorite religion (Islam) where having sex with young girls (as long as you're married to the 9 year old) and sex with young boys is acceptable.
http://www.islam-watch.org/Amarkhan/pedophilia-in-islam/pedophilia-islam.htm

So once again: Without borrowing off of Judeo-Christian doctrine, tell us why sex with underage children/youth is wrong.



You should have seen that heroin overdose that my partner and I dealt with the other day. As he lay their dying, he turned several shades of blue. I would have loved it had you been there so I could have taken you by the neck and shoved your face within an inch of his to see what death really looks like.



Because we all know that this

is much more powerful then this:

Social pressure can be a powerful force...

 

[Rusha]

I shared an ex lesbians story of what you call "freedom", I was hoping that you could give us some details of what a really really good lesbian relationship is like.

The details of other people's relationships is something I have no interest in.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

But but but Jr., your fellow Libertarian and former North American Man Boy Love Association spokesman Joe Powers didn't have a problem with it [pedophilia] back in 1995 when he was interviewed in Spy Magazine:

You're assuming that everyone with the label "libertarian" believes the same thing.

I've always acknowledged that your cult is a potpourri of misfits (dopers, abortionists, homosexuals, pornographers, hookers, etc.) Jr. :

"If it feels good do it"/"Do you own thing" describes it well.

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Because we all know that this [pressure from grandma]

is much more powerful than this [a Judge with gavel in hand]

Social pressure can be a powerful force...

42 years and 58 million unborn babies later, how's that working out with abortion Jr.?

 

[Christian Liberty]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

But but but Jr., your fellow Libertarian and former North American Man Boy Love Association spokesman Joe Powers didn't have a problem with it [pedophilia] back in 1995 when he was interviewed in Spy Magazine:



I've always acknowledged that your cult is a potpourri of misfits (dopers, abortionists, homosexuals, pornographers, hookers, etc.) Jr. :

"If it feels good do it"/"Do you own thing" describes it well.

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Because we all know that this [pressure from grandma]

is much more powerful than this [a Judge with gavel in hand]



42 years and 58 million unborn babies later, how's that working out with abortion Jr.?

I think abortionists should be executed, so I'm not sure why you're going down this road. You and I both know I'm much more hardline on this issue than you are, so I'd suggest you drop it, lest I expose your pro-choice record.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
42 years and 58 million unborn babies later, how's that working out with abortion Jr.?

I think abortionists should be executed, so I'm not sure why you're going down this road.

You said:

Social pressure can be a powerful force...

And I'm asking how that "social pressure" is working for those 58 million unborn babies who were aborted in the past 42 years since abortion was made legal?

You and I both know I'm much more hardline on this issue than you are, so I'd suggest you drop it, lest I expose your pro-choice record.

Hardline as in had you actually been old enough to vote in the last Presidential election you would have voted for the Libertarian Party candidate who ran on a pro abortion/sexual anarchist platform while I voted for the Presidential candidate who was supported by every major pro life organization and ran on a political party platform that has been pro life/pro traditional family since abortion was made legal?

Or maybe you're talking about the thread that Captain Obvious started where the 11 year old Swedish girl who was viciously gang raped by 20 of your beloved muzzies
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2012/...11-year-old-swedish-girl-in-public-bathhouse/

became pregnant (in his scenario) and instead of allowing her to kill herself and her unborn baby (if qualified psychologists deemed she was going to kill herself) then like all civilized societies do I would allow an abortion instead of having 2 dead innocent human beings?

 

[lovemeorhateme]

From her experience ... which is religiously based. Unfortunately for you, freedom of religion does not include making laws that would impose your beliefs on others by taking away their rights.

You are on the losing end of this battle. Officer. Just thought I would mention that.

Unfortunately, in this 'culture war' for want of a better phrase, it seems to be just the opposite happening. The new found liberation, the sexual freedom, and gradual societal acceptance of homosexuality as equal in every way to heterosexual relationships is leading to a new totalitarianism.

In the name of 'tolerance', this new totalitarian force is one of the most intolerant and bigoted political movements. The tolerance which they preach only extends to those who fully agree with their views. Anything less is seen as 'bigoted', 'homophobic' (a very reactionary word used to shut down all criticism), 'intolerant' or worst of all 'dangerous'. Those who preach tolerance are intolerant towards those who they deem as intolerant; this is blatant hypocrisy.

My point is that this homosexual political movement (which not all homosexuals are a part of) is forcing the government to make laws which impose their political orthodoxy on everyone. A very one sided political orthodoxy. Christians are being harassed, sued, threatened and bullied by those who claim to be the victims. The homosexual movement is gradually stripping Christians of their rights to practice their beliefs in every area of their lives, and trying to bully them into submission in the process.

 

[GFR7]

aCW, you know how gays keep yapping about wanting to donate blood? :think: Please watch this short ad put out by gay advocacy making fun of FDA restrictions, and waging a pressure campaign against the FDA 1 yr sex ban for gays, and give me your opinion? :think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYXxMO_mTBY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYXxMO_mTBY

 

[GFR7]

In the name of 'tolerance', this new totalitarian force is one of the most intolerant and bigoted political movements. The tolerance which they preach only extends to those who fully agree with their views. Anything less is seen as 'bigoted', 'homophobic' (a very reactionary word used to shut down all criticism), 'intolerant' or worst of all 'dangerous'. Those who preach tolerance are intolerant towards those who they deem as intolerant; this is blatant hypocrisy.

Well said. :BRAVO:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Unfortunately, in this 'culture war' for want of a better phrase,

It's the perfect phrase since there is a war going on between conflicting values on important issues such as abortion, homosexuality, pornography, etc.

it seems to be just the opposite happening. The new found liberation, the sexual freedom, and gradual societal acceptance of homosexuality as equal in every way to heterosexual relationships is leading to a new totalitarianism.

In the name of 'tolerance', this new totalitarian force is one of the most intolerant and bigoted political movements. The tolerance which they preach only extends to those who fully agree with their views. Anything less is seen as 'bigoted', 'homophobic' (a very reactionary word used to shut down all criticism), 'intolerant' or worst of all 'dangerous'. Those who preach tolerance are intolerant towards those who they deem as intolerant; this is blatant hypocrisy.

My point is that this homosexual political movement (which not all homosexuals are a part of) is forcing the government to make laws which impose their political orthodoxy on everyone.

Show me one person who proudly and unrepenantly engages in homosexual behavior and I'll show you someone who is part of the homosexual political movement (i.e. he or she votes for political candidates that support his or her immoral values, never speaks badly about homosexual behavior, etc. etc.).

A very one sided political orthodoxy. Christians are being harassed, sued, threatened and bullied by those who claim to be the victims. The homosexual movement is gradually stripping Christians of their rights to practice their beliefs in every area of their lives, and trying to bully them into submission in the process.

And all of these things have happened since homosexuality was decriminalized.

Here's your opportunity to make even more enemies than you already have Pete (with you being an ex-homosexual, you're HATED a million times more than someone like me could ever be HATED, as you have proved that change is possible) : tell the followers of the thread that righteous laws need to be legislated once again to stop the insanity that you just acknolwedged is happening.

 

[Rusha]

Unfortunately, in this 'culture war' for want of a better phrase, it seems to be just the opposite happening. The new found liberation, the sexual freedom, and gradual societal acceptance of homosexuality as equal in every way to heterosexual relationships is leading to a new totalitarianism.

In the name of 'tolerance', this new totalitarian force is one of the most intolerant and bigoted political movements. The tolerance which they preach only extends to those who fully agree with their views. Anything less is seen as 'bigoted', 'homophobic' (a very reactionary word used to shut down all criticism), 'intolerant' or worst of all 'dangerous'. Those who preach tolerance are intolerant towards those who they deem as intolerant; this is blatant hypocrisy.

My point is that this homosexual political movement (which not all homosexuals are a part of) is forcing the government to make laws which impose their political orthodoxy on everyone. A very one sided political orthodoxy. Christians are being harassed, sued, threatened and bullied by those who claim to be the victims. The homosexual movement is gradually stripping Christians of their rights to practice their beliefs in every area of their lives, and trying to bully them into submission in the process.

Ya know, Pete, I actually agree with you in regards to the politics of the issue. I don't see a need for *special rights* (such as hate law legislation).

Though on the flip side, we have those who wish to make homosexuality illegal and even punishable by death. Yet those same people remain silent on serious issues such as rape, child molestation, etc. UNLESS the accused is a homosexual. Why do you suppose they cherry pick which *sin* and *sinners* to persecute?

Incidentally those who were persecuted are pushing back and doing a whole lot of persecuting of their own. Neither side will concede that they are wrong, so nothing changes.

I don't for a moment believe that harsh, vile words have anything to do with love. Homosexuals, as well as their families and friends, are not buying it either.

 

[TracerBullet]

Unfortunately, in this 'culture war' for want of a better phrase, it seems to be just the opposite happening. The new found liberation, the sexual freedom, and gradual societal acceptance of homosexuality as equal in every way to heterosexual relationships is leading to a new totalitarianism.

In the name of 'tolerance', this new totalitarian force is one of the most intolerant and bigoted political movements. The tolerance which they preach only extends to those who fully agree with their views. Anything less is seen as 'bigoted', 'homophobic' (a very reactionary word used to shut down all criticism), 'intolerant' or worst of all 'dangerous'. Those who preach tolerance are intolerant towards those who they deem as intolerant; this is blatant hypocrisy.

My point is that this homosexual political movement (which not all homosexuals are a part of) is forcing the government to make laws which impose their political orthodoxy on everyone.

How?

A very one sided political orthodoxy. Christians are being harassed, sued, threatened and bullied by those who claim to be the victims.

you are claiming to be the victim.
The big irony is that you are complaining about threats and harassment in a thread dedicated threatening and harassing gays.

The homosexual movement is gradually stripping Christians of their rights to practice their beliefs in every area of their lives, and trying to bully them into submission in the process.

Exactly what religious rights have you been striped of?

 

[lovemeorhateme]

It's the perfect phrase since there is a war going on between conflicting values on important issues such as abortion, homosexuality, pornography, etc.

On that we agree.

Show me one person who proudly and unrepenantly engages in homosexual behavior and I'll show you someone who is part of the homosexual political movement (i.e. he or she votes for political candidates that support his or her immoral values, never speaks badly about homosexual behavior, etc. etc.).

On this we disagree. I know a number of people who are openly homosexual and not Christian. The majority of them would agree with me on many of the things I've said. Not all homosexuals are militant or politically motivated. Indeed, many that I know agree with me on issues where religion and homosexuality clash. They would support the right of a baker to refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding, or the right of a Christian hotel owner to refuse a room to a homosexual couple. Politics work very differently here to the US, so we don't generally vote candidates based on their views on homosexuality or abortion. Indeed, neither issue is talked about much in politics.

And all of these things have happened since homosexuality was decriminalized.

Here's your opportunity to make even more enemies than you already have Pete (with you being an ex-homosexual, you're HATED a million times more than someone like me could ever be HATED, as you have proved that change is possible) : tell the followers of the thread that righteous laws need to be legislated once again to stop the insanity that you just acknolwedged is happening.

Somehow I think that being arrogant and obnoxious like you gets peoples backs up far more than anything they may think about my past and the person I've become. You are the stereotypical image of the angry raving Christian who hates everyone. There is nothing loving or kind in anything you say. I've never seen you say a kind word to anyone.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Ya know, Pete, I actually agree with you in regards to the politics of the issue. I don't see a need for *special rights* (such as hate law legislation).

You left a few *special rights* out Sandy:

To openly serve in the military, teach and mentor impressionable children, mock God's institution of marriage and adopt innocent children, etc. etc.

Though on the flip side, we have those who wish to make homosexuality illegal and even punishable by death.

I've pointed out that Jesus rescinded the death penalty but not righteous laws when it came to horrific sins like homosexuality. So take up your gripe with the pro homosexual death penalty crowd in another thread Sandy, as you're blowing smoke in this one.

Yet those same people remain silent on serious issues such as rape, child molestation, etc. UNLESS the accused is a homosexual. Why do you suppose they cherry pick which *sin* and *sinners* to persecute?

(Poor Sandy, she's so engrossed with protecting those who proudly engage in homosexual behavior that she actually thinks that decent people approve of rape and child molestation as long as it's not done by homosexuals).

Incidentally those who were persecuted are pushing back and doing a whole lot of persecuting of their own. Neither side will concede that they are wrong, so nothing changes.

Atta girl Sandy, be honest. Sexual deviants were "persecuted" for thousands of years and now they're just "pushing back".
(Of course in Sandy's moral relativist world there is no right or wrong. Her issue, like all other sexual anarchists, is with God).

I don't for a moment believe that harsh, vile words have anything to do with love. Homosexuals, as well as their families and friends, are not buying it either.

I agree Sandy, when homosexuals in San Francisco threaten to rape and murder a Christian pastor's children simply because he fired a homosexual organist, that is anything but "love".

 

[lovemeorhateme]

How?

I think that gay historian David Starkey puts it very well....

David Starkey Question Time

you are claiming to be the victim.
The big irony is that you are complaining about threats and harassment in a thread dedicated threatening and harassing gays.

I'm not personally a victim, yet. However, there have been many that are. Those who previously felt oppressed are now becoming the oppressors.

Exactly what religious rights have you been striped of?

It's happening all around us that Christians are being forced by law to do things against their conscience. One particular case soon to be in court which springs to mind is Asher's Bakery in Northern Ireland. The bakery were asked to bake a cake with the slogan 'support gay marriage' on it. They refused and they are now being taken to court by the Equality Commission, a government organisation. The homosexual activist who requested the cake would happily see the baker stripped of their right to refuse to write a political slogan which they disagree with because of their Christian faith. What the court will rule remains to be seen, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they rule against the bakery.

I'm sure you are aware of the many other cases of homosexuals suing Christians because they wouldn't go against their conscience. Any society which forces someone to conform to a certain orthodoxy and moral or political view is a dangerous society to live in.