Who Justifieth the Ungodly

[beloved57]

Justification solely by the death of Christ !

That those Christ died for are Justified solely upon Christ's Act alone, apart from any of their own, is taught in Rom 5:18b

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Notice the antithesis of Rom 5:18a which is stated thusly:

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;

This plainly tells us, that Judgment to condemnation landed upon all men solely by the offence of One, that one being Adam.

The words came upon means resulted in , the sole act of Adam, resulted in all men [in him] Judgment to condemnation, they did nothing personally in themselves for the condemnation, in fact they had not even personal existed !

So, the same is even so in the antithesis, by the Righteousness of One, Meaning His[Christs] Active and Passive Obedience, as a Free Gift, Justification of Life came upon all men [in Him] and again the words came upon means resulted in, the sole Act of Christ resulted in all men [In Him] Justification of Life, they did personally nothing of themselves for this Free Gift, in fact they had not even personally existed.

Notice its called a Free Gift !! Thats because it " Justification of Life" was freely charged to their account in Heaven, freely imputed to their account in the record law books of Gods Law and Justice.

Its not a free gift in the corrupt sense that the false teachers make it, that its offered to you as a gift and now its up to you to receive it, that is a lie, for it was no more an offering for one to accept or reject as it was a offer you could accept or reject when , because of Adams One Act, it resulted in Judgment unto condemnation !

So Rom 5:18b validates that those Christ lived and died for, it resulted in their Justification apart from any thing they did, even apart from their believing !

 

[beloved57]

And by him all that believe are justified from all things

Acts 13:38-39

38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:

39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

What does this mean ? "all that believe are justified from all things" ? Now I already know that false teachers oft times use this scripture to refer to believing being a condition one must do in order to get Justified before God, but that is a false teaching. What this scripture does say and mean is that those who believe have been Justified from all things, in other words their believing is the evidence that they have already been Justified by the blood of Christ, they already have the forgiveness of sins Vs 38.

Now the Justification of them and their forgiveness of sins preceded their believing, as it is written, that the Just/Justified shall live by Faith Rom 1:17

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

This is a Promise, a certainty that the Just SHALL live by Faith ! Now who all is Just or who are the Just ? Why its everyone Christ died for, everyone of the many by whom His One Obedience made them Righteous Rom 5:19b

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

The obedience here is the death of Christ as in His Obedience unto death of the Cross Phil 2:8 and by it many shall be made righteous, which is the greek word dikaios for Just in Rom 1:17, so hence, all whom by the Obedience of one were made just or righteous, the promise is that they shall live by Faith or believe !

The shall live by Faith is in the future tense, which means all whom Christ died for shall sometime in the future believe or live by Faith.

So it is with these being preached to in Acts 13:39 them who were believing gave evidence that they had by the obedience of Christ been made Just or righteous, which obedience was in the past, and so their Justification preceded their believing and was why they believed !

 

[Nanja]

That those Christ died for are Justified solely upon Christ's Act alone, apart from any of their own, is taught in Rom 5:18b

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Notice the antithesis of Rom 5:18a which is stated thusly:

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;

This plainly tells us, that Judgment to condemnation landed upon all men solely by the offence of One, that one being Adam.

The words came upon means resulted in , the sole act of Adam, resulted in all men [in him] Judgment to condemnation, they did nothing personally in themselves for the condemnation, in fact they had not even personal existed !

So, the same is even so in the antithesis, by the Righteousness of One, Meaning His[Christs] Active and Passive Obedience, as a Free Gift, Justification of Life came upon all men [in Him] and again the words came upon means resulted in, the sole Act of Christ resulted in all men [In Him] Justification of Life, they did personally nothing of themselves for this Free Gift, in fact they had not even personally existed.

Notice its called a Free Gift !! Thats because it " Justification of Life" was freely charged to their account in Heaven, freely imputed to their account in the record law books of Gods Law and Justice.

Its not a free gift in the corrupt sense that the false teachers make it, that its offered to you as a gift and now its up to you to receive it, that is a lie, for it was no more an offering for one to accept or reject as it was a offer you could accept or reject when , because of Adams One Act, it resulted in Judgment unto condemnation !

So Rom 5:18b validates that those Christ lived and died for, it resulted in their Justification apart from any thing they did, even apart from their believing !

Just as you have clearly shown, the Judgment to Condemnation and Justification of Life, were both received passively,
by those whom Christ lived and died for, even before they ever personally existed. It's the same group of People in both instances,
God's Adopted Children, chosen in Union with Christ in eternity Eph. 1:4-5, were the sames ones originally in Adam when he sinned.
So the free gift of Justification of Life pertains only to them, the Election of Grace.

This proves that the will of man, or any act he may perform in the flesh, is totally disassociated
from having any effect on what God has already predetermined according to His Plan and Purpose.

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[beloved57]

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It's the same group of People in both instances,
God's Adopted Children, chosen in Union with Christ in eternity Eph. 1:4-5, were the sames ones originally in Adam when he sinned.

Thats Right, the seed of the serpent was added to Adams natural seed after the fall, so by consequence of the fall, Adam became the natural head of the seed of the serpent, but spiritually they remain the serpents seed doomed for destruction !

So the free gift of Justification of Life pertains only to them, the Election of Grace.

Absolutely !

This proves that the will of man, or any act he may perform in the flesh, is totally disassociated
from having any effect on what God has already predetermined according to His Plan and Purpose.

Amen !

 

[Nanja]

Thats Right, the seed of the serpent was added to Adams natural seed after the fall, so by consequence of the fall, Adam became the natural head of the seed of the serpent, but spiritually they remain the serpents seed doomed for destruction !

Yes, and this serpents seed is also referred to as the tares he, the devil, sowed in the world:

Mat. 13:38-39
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom;
but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
v.39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil;
the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

And they are also the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction Rom. 9:22.

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[beloved57]

nanja

Yes, and this serpents seed is also referred to as the tares he, the devil, sowed in the world:

Yes.

And they are also the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction Rom. 9:22.

Correct !

 

[beloved57]

Remission/Forgiveness of sins = Justification !

None in false religion today believe that those Christ died for, by His redeeming death alone, that they are all Justified before God, yes even before they believe, and even while they are unbelieving enemies by nature ! This is True because by His death alone for them, they have received in the Court of Heaven before the Throne of God, Remission/Forgiveness of sins, which is also a branch Justification ! Listen to the words of Christ here Matt 26:28

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

The word for here eis means that the shedding of His Blood for that particular many resulted in the remission of their sins, which also means Justification !

There is Salvation resulted in also in the remission of sins, Lk 1:77

77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,

Yes all their sins, past, present and future have been forgiven because of the shedding of the blood, which also means they are Justified before God, even when they have not been yet Justified before their own consciousness and while they are in unbelief and ignorance !

Jesus Christ was raised from the dead because of our Justification Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for[because of] our justification.

That word Justification, the greek word dikaiōsis means:

I.the act of God declaring men free from guilt and acceptable to him

See thats what Remission of sins means, God declaring men and women free from guilt based upon the blood shed of Christ alone !

The word remission in Matt 26:28 is the greek word aphesis which means:

II.forgiveness or pardon, of sins (letting them go as if they had never been committed), remission of the penalty

And again that equates to Justification:

the act of God declaring men free from guilt

This is not based upon anyone's faith, or repentance or even believing the Gospel, those things have nothing to do with it, but based solely upon the Blood shed of Jesus Christ !

 

[beloved57]

Gods Elect are Justified by Him !

Rom 8:33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Understand something, the very mere fact that one is Gods Elect, apart from any other consideration, it means that one is Justified from all condemnation, any charges, none can be laid to their charge, God wont do it !

 

[Nanja]

Rom 8:33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Understand something, the very mere fact that one is Gods Elect, apart from any other consideration, it means that one is Justified from all condemnation, any charges, none can be laid to their charge, God wont do it !

Amen! God's Elect were Justified from Everlasting, because they were Chosen in Christ Eph. 1:4
to have remission of sins Eph. 1:7, and Blessed because their sins were never imputed to them Rom. 4:8,
but were imputed to Christ their Surety instead Heb. 7:22; Rev. 13:8; Is. 53:6.

So that's why all the Election of Grace could never come under condemnation before God, for them His Wrath was appeased:

Rom. 5:8-10
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled,
we shall be saved by his life.

2 Cor. 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Rom. 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

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[Robert Pate]

Amen! God's Elect were Justified from Everlasting, because they were Chosen in Christ Eph. 1:4
to have remission of sins Eph. 1:7, and Blessed because their sins were never imputed to them Rom. 4:8,
but were imputed to Christ their Surety instead Heb. 7:22; Rev. 13:8; Is. 53:6.

So that's why all the Election of Grace could never come under condemnation before God, for them His Wrath was appeased:

Rom. 5:8-10
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled,
we shall be saved by his life.

2 Cor. 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Rom. 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

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Salvation has been provided for all. It becomes ours by simple faith in Christ, not because we were chosen to receive it. What makes you think that you have been chosen?

God chose all of humanity in Jesus Christ, not just some, Hebrews 2:9.

 

[Bright Raven]

Salvation has been provided for all. It becomes ours by simple faith in Christ, not because we were chosen to receive it. What makes you think that you have been chosen?

God chose all of humanity in Jesus Christ, not just some, Hebrews 2:9.

Salvation is a free gift to anyone who desires it.

Romans 6:23 English Standard Version (ESV)

23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[Nanja]

Salvation has been provided for all. It becomes ours by simple faith in Christ, not because we were chosen to receive it. What makes you think that you have been chosen?

God chose all of humanity in Jesus Christ, not just some, Hebrews 2:9.

Salvation was Promised to only One People, the Chosen Seed Is. 45:17.
Christ Jesus is the Saviour of the whole World of Israel according to the Promise Acts 13:23; 1 John 2:2!

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[Nanja]

Salvation is a free gift to anyone who desires it.

Romans 6:23 English Standard Version (ESV)

23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

You quote scriptures, but have been blinded to their meaning 2 Cor 4:3-4.

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[beloved57]

Amen! God's Elect were Justified from Everlasting, because they were Chosen in Christ Eph. 1:4
to have remission of sins Eph. 1:7, and Blessed because their sins were never imputed to them Rom. 4:8,
but were imputed to Christ their Surety instead Heb. 7:22; Rev. 13:8; Is. 53:6.

So that's why all the Election of Grace could never come under condemnation before God, for them His Wrath was appeased:

Rom. 5:8-10
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled,
we shall be saved by his life.

2 Cor. 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Rom. 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

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Amen!

 

[Bright Raven]

You quote scriptures, but have been blinded to their meaning 2 Cor 4:3-4.

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And what will you do when he says;

Matthew 7:21-23 English Standard Version (ESV)

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’

23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

 

[beloved57]

Salvation has been provided for all. It becomes ours by simple faith in Christ, not because we were chosen to receive it. What makes you think that you have been chosen?

God chose all of humanity in Jesus Christ, not just some, Hebrews 2:9.

Unscriptural comments !

 

[beloved57]

Salvation was Promised to only One People, the Chosen Seed Is. 45:17.
Christ Jesus is the Saviour of the whole World of Israel according to the Promise Acts 13:23; 1 John 2:2!

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Sure you right !

 

[Bright Raven]

Sure you right !

Didn't know you were Israel.

 

[Nanja]

And what will you do when he says;

Matthew 7:21-23 English Standard Version (ESV)

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’

23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Those verses apply to the goats Mat 25:41; the devil's children Mat. 13:38-39!

But I am one of His Sheep He gave His Life for John 10:11,15.
Christ knows me, and I know Him intimately John 10:14, 27!

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[Nanja]

Didn't know you were Israel.

I am Deut. 7:6-7!

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