Luke 22:19-21
And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you. But the hand of him who is going to betray me is with mine on the table.
Jesus poured out His blood for Judas Iscariot.
For the Son of Perdition? A devil? Just because Judas was there, doesn't mean Jesus was addressing Judas. Why do you pick one scripture over another? Double standard?
Matt. 26:25 Then Judas, which betrayed him, answered and said, Master, is it I? He said unto him, Thou hast said. 26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. 27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Now you are quoting like a Calvinist who is defending LA. Jesus, in this verse, was demonstrating His good shepherdship in contrast to that of the Pharisees (where we see them ostracizing from the synangogue he who once was blind). You are wrong to infer LA when Jesus makes a point about how he cares and the Pharisees did not.
v.13 The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.
So, you ignore what Jesus said quite clearly because the Calvinists use the text. No inference is required for a plain reading of the text. "I am the Good Shepherd".....who lays down His life for the sheep....those who do no believe are not his sheep. Judas did not believe. You can make all the excuses you want to, but it won't change what is plainly written.
Why did you not reference the fact that Jesus then proceeds to enjoin such folk, those who are not His sheep, to believe Him because of the miracles He has performed?
There is lots of stuff I didn't include. Why should I when you won't even accept the verses I did give you? Jesus made it clear that Judas did not believe...
Again - more verses Calvinists cite. That Jesus died for the church does not affirm he did not die for the rest.
He gave His life for it.
Ah, another of those Calvinist verses. I'm so shocked to hear they are all off limits.
I guess we could just keep throwing out verses until we're left with exactly what you and the evil one want left in. :think:
