What is Nature?

Town Heretic

Out of Order
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with nature everything must die except rocks but they are not very interesting
Well, things that aren't alive don't tend to die or be very interesting.

in nature we see order
You can see a pony in the clouds sometimes, faces in leaves and wood panels or light sockets. We see patterns, provide contexts that reflect what we're experiencing.

and
that demands a designer
common sense should tell you that
Common sense would tell you the earth is still and the sun moves around it.

Causality/contingency is a better answer for the necessity of God.
 

Angel4Truth

New member
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*jeopardy music begins to play*

do you need more time? perhaps you'd like to phone a friend or poll the audience??

/inquiring minds wanna know

if she is too shy to answer, can someone else take a stab at it for her?

na·ture
ˈnāCHər/
noun
noun: nature; plural noun: natures

1.
the phenomena of the physical world collectively, including plants, animals, the landscape, and other features and products of the earth, as opposed to humans or human creations.
"the breathtaking beauty of nature"
synonyms: the natural world, Mother Nature, Mother Earth, the environment; More
wildlife, flora and fauna, the countryside;
the universe, the cosmos
"the beauty of nature"
the physical force regarded as causing and regulating these phenomena.
"it is impossible to change the laws of nature"
2.
the basic or inherent features of something, especially when seen as characteristic of it.
"helping them to realize the nature of their problems"
synonyms: essence, inherent/basic/essential qualities, inherent/basic/essential features, character, complexion More
"such crimes are, by their very nature, difficult to hide"
kind, sort, type, variety, category, ilk, class, species, genre, style, cast, order, kidney, mold, stamp, stripe
"experiments of a similar nature"
the innate or essential qualities or character of a person or animal.
"it's not in her nature to listen to advice"
synonyms: character, personality, disposition, temperament, makeup, psyche, constitution
"it was not in her nature to argue"
inborn or hereditary characteristics as an influence on or determinant of personality.
archaic
a person of a specified character.
"Emerson was so much more luminous a nature"

As you can see, there is more than one definition there, and as i said before, the meaning depends on the context its used in, you have failed to tell us your context, so no clear definition can be forthcoming.
 

chrysostom

Well-known member
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the gif was it

Double-compound-pendulum.gif


you see it carefully 'designed' a well crafted basket for carrying fruit, pipes, etc..

images


so then this basket proves that there is a designer, correct?

even atheists believe in Nature-Physical the only difference is their choice of Designer ours being God theirs being Gravity, so this should be a piece of cake.

//...presuming you believe in cake

*insert the cake is a lie joke here*

to recap:

1. they believe in Gravity
2. you believe in God

3. IDW's third choice, why not both.gif?

there is chaos in you mind
simply because you don't put limits on anything
nature has limits
you need only to recognize them
 

chrysostom

Well-known member
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nature
is
life
is
procreation
any interference with procreation violates natural law
unless
it is necessary to sustain life
 

chrysostom

Well-known member
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yes
no
ok

Which part of Nature does the 'soul' fall under?

would it help if you defined Nature, BEFORE you start describing, categorizing it...?

or i suppose we can all just start debating it, even if we have no earthly idea of what ANYone is even talking about...

would be about par for the interwebs-society

/nevar gets old

I already defined nature as life which is procreation and the law that governs it
 

PureX

Well-known member
I would be more interested in this thread if I didn't know I was being baited by a punk. It's an interesting subject.
 

Mocking You

New member
I would be more interested in this thread if I didn't know I was being baited by a punk. It's an interesting subject.

^^ THIS ^^

I predict this thread will get to be 15+ pages long with the constant rabbit hole trails of fresh questions.
 
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