This is nothing more than "patrick jane's" attempts to trivialize the situation and reinforce what is already painfully obvious - that he has nothing intelligent to contribute to the conversation!
What if climate change is real and human caused--what should Christians do about it?
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This is nothing more than "patrick jane's" attempts to trivialize the situation and reinforce what is already painfully obvious - that he has nothing intelligent to contribute to the conversation!
gcthomas
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first it was global cooling actually Ice Age was the term nobody bought
then it was global warming and nobody bought it
The phrase 'ice age' had been on a steady increase since the 1870s when a major book was published bringing the idea about historical to scientists worldwide, slowly displacing the assumption that the earth was gradually cooling from a molten state. Of you expand your date axes you should see the trend doors nor remotely support your claim.
genuineoriginal
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I'm sure the millions of residents on the East Coast, currently experiencing this mega hurricane that extends from Spain to the Atlantic Seaboard, are comforted by this President's efforts to defund the Environmental Protection Agency - forcing out every self-respecting climate scientist who disagrees with the White House's stated position that their is no such thing as climate change!
There is an agency that is being funded to protect hurricanes?
Such an agency should be defunded.
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It's almost charming how deniers think that a few cartoons will somehow triumph over reality.
Interplanner
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gct: I know some links don't always get you to what you thought you had linked. You should be looking at a 10 year temp anomaly map of N. America (Arctic circle to equator). Red readings are hotter; white are stable; blue are colder. The blues outnumber the reds 2:1, but there are regions: the SW US is quite red. This week's phenomenon is showing a reinforcement of this map in its southerly reach, and avoidance of the West Coast: Juneau has no snow yet, nor does any West coastal area south to the equator.
This should point us to the question of submarine volcanism warming the Pacific.
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way 2 go
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first it was global cooling actually Ice Age was the term nobody bought
then it was global warming and nobody bought it
way 2 go
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funny how the climate isn't changing
I see someone beat me to it. Even deniers now admit that it's changing. Now, most of them just say that it's not our fault.
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The climate is changing.
It is the fault of mankind.
The results have been and will be catastrophic.
The argument is over how and why the climate is changing and the demand of liberals that we sacrifice liberty over something we can do nothing to fix.
:mock: Blablabarian.
Always gets everything wrong. :chuckle:
gcthomas
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The map shows the temperatures for one week with the temperatures for one week a decade ago. That shows that temperatures fluctuate on the scale of weeks. What wotld have been better is the average over the last five years compared to the five year average from twenty years ago.
Climate change is a longer time scale than a week.
Interplanner
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From the FOX page:
The heat maps are land surface tempeatures taken from Dec. 26, 2017-Jan. 2, 2018 and are compared to the eight-day average from 2001 to 2010.
Are there little elves that go out and magically change the temperature colder that week? is that why you are saying FOX picked that week?
My local power company tells us the ave. temp. of the same month a year ago in each monthly statement. In our area near Seattle last spring, every reading was 4-6 colder all spring. Yes, this Dec. was 2 higher.
The map is not manipulating anything, not when you are talking about the whole northern hemisphere of the Americas.
But here is manipulation: the same day that the forecasts warned of these weeks, USA TODAY made sure to remind us that 2017 was hotter. So they listed 380 US cities with hotter temperatures than the 345 that were colder. But it is an unreliable figure, because as you can see from the number of sites reporting on the hemisphere map, 380 cities is nothing. You could easily list that many warmer ones and manipulate the whole statement, and no one would notice.
btw, I have no idea what your list is saying--the one with the 10 years and temperatures beside them.
The heat maps are land surface tempeatures taken from Dec. 26, 2017-Jan. 2, 2018 and are compared to the eight-day average from 2001 to 2010.
Are there little elves that go out and magically change the temperature colder that week? is that why you are saying FOX picked that week?
My local power company tells us the ave. temp. of the same month a year ago in each monthly statement. In our area near Seattle last spring, every reading was 4-6 colder all spring. Yes, this Dec. was 2 higher.
The map is not manipulating anything, not when you are talking about the whole northern hemisphere of the Americas.
But here is manipulation: the same day that the forecasts warned of these weeks, USA TODAY made sure to remind us that 2017 was hotter. So they listed 380 US cities with hotter temperatures than the 345 that were colder. But it is an unreliable figure, because as you can see from the number of sites reporting on the hemisphere map, 380 cities is nothing. You could easily list that many warmer ones and manipulate the whole statement, and no one would notice.
btw, I have no idea what your list is saying--the one with the 10 years and temperatures beside them.
Interplanner
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A month ago, a climate change warrior here was asked: where is the crisis? The greatest impact of weather in recent history was several thousand deaths in France about 12 years ago. But the crisis is supposed to be coastal flooding. The France incident was understood to be as peculiar as was the London Fog of 1950 or so. They were things that could happen if about 10 factors aligned. In England, one of them was the way coal was burnt, which is now a thing of the past.
Interplanner
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Stipe blathers:
You need to separate the fact of anthropogenic climate change, from your notion of what we might do about it.
The denier argument always comes down to "we don't want to do what we think it would take to fix the problem, so the problem can't exist."
(Why does Stipe always post laughing smilies when he's angry?)
You need to separate the fact of anthropogenic climate change, from your notion of what we might do about it.
The denier argument always comes down to "we don't want to do what we think it would take to fix the problem, so the problem can't exist."
(Why does Stipe always post laughing smilies when he's angry?)