Were the Pyramids made out of concrete?
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I have no problem believing in advanced technology before our time. Catastrophes can see whole groups of people wiped out, and as such if our sorry arses were wiped out and only a few hairdressers remained, it would take time to get back to some technological equivalent. I'm not too sure how long it would take for nature to wipe out lots of signs of our passing, but i'm sure she has many ways to cover up what came before. The difference here though is that I have a belief that there were several if not many such catastrophes, not just the Biblical flood. Therefore we have to try and preserve something for after the next big balls-up so that we don't slip back into superstition and religion to try and balance what happened to our previous generations to cause such catastrophes (i.e., that they were sinners, disobedient, etc.)
Vern Reed said:
Unfortunately most of the records of past civilizations were lost when the Library at Alexandria burned, but fortunately a prince of Egypt had previously collected and edited some of that material into a book we all have access to today.
That prince of course was known by the Israelites by his Hebrew name of Moses.
bob b, are you going to address the ridiculousness of this article, claiming that 'evolutionists' don't believe that the Pyramids were made by man? And that the pyramids 'disprove' evolution?
supersport
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AIG: New evidence regarding the advanced technology evident in the ancient Egyptian pyramids is consistent with the Bible’s account of history. The evolutionary model of the history of early man presents man as an ignorant primitive gradually acquiring intellectual skills and technology.
Why would this be a strawman? I realize Johnny is unavailable at the moment, but maybe somebody else? Evolutionists, do indeed believe that humans evolved ffrom apes....this would require some sort of intellectual ascent.
Johnny said:
Why would this be a strawman? I realize Johnny is unavailable at the moment, but maybe somebody else? Evolutionists, do indeed believe that humans evolved ffrom apes....this would require some sort of intellectual ascent.
TheLaughingMan said:
The reason I posted a link to the article was because it talked about scientific investigations that pointed toward at least some of the stones we find in the pyramids being artificial and cast. Some of them fit together so accurately that it is hard to see how they could have been made using the "chisel method". This is also true of some of the ancient stone constructions found in the mountains of South America, only more so, because the stones are not cubic shaped in nature but are irregular, yet fit together so tightly that they require no mortar. Scientists have speculated that this can only mean that they were soft when first put into place and thus the plasticity allowed them to be "squeezed" into position, thus conforming to their neighbors as tightly as seen today.
I don't necessarily endorse any other thoughts in the article I linked to, because it was the artificial stone aspect that was my main interest and the reason I posted the link..
supersport said:
supersport, this is a strawman because 'the evolutionary model' doesn't say that Egyptians are 'primitive', it doesn't postulate at all about the technological prowess of civilizations of humans. She is creating a false position that is easy to knock-down. You must be able to see this...even bob b admits as much.
bob b said:
Fair enough, it's just hard to stomach an article that starts like that, though the references check out. I've always been fascinated how technology can become 'lost' like it has so often in history.
TheLaughingMan said:
Actually I didn't "admit" anything other than my main interest was in artificial stones.
And there was also a motive behind this, which was that evolutionists are always talking about cavemen and goatherders, and being able to cast stones artificially points toward the ancients being far more advanced than that.
Of course the evolutionary model doesn't specifically address Egyptians, but the mindset of evolution is slow and gradual change, so the adoption of this idea in our culture naturally is reflected all the time in depictions of the ancients as being "beneath" us moderns.
Makes everybody feel so good and so "advanced" that the US went to the Moon, even though 99.9% of the population had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Will you admit the strawman argument exists?bob b said:
Gerald
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Bad selection, that. AiG is notorious for being full of feces of the male bovine.carolus magnus said:
None of those things are particularly wondrous. Grinding and polishing silicate material is not all that difficult.
Sorry, cm, but I'll be impressed by ancient technology when some archaeologist digs up a fusion reactor or an anti-gravity platform or a laser weapon.
Real Sorceror
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.....I always thought windmills and ballistas where kinda impressive. :noid:Gerald said:
Real Sorceror said:
I'm pretty impressed with the pyramids. Stonehenge too.
Gerald said:
Just because you disagree with something and it threatens your world view doesn't mean it has no merit. You should appreciate that in addition to challenging evolutionary science, AiG also goes to great lengths to stop creationists from using demonstrably false arguments.
Real Sorceror
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No, seriously. AiG really does lie and fabricate things. I'm not saying everything they say is a lie, but they are not above creating false information.carolus magnus said:
I'm not telling you this out of any malicious intent or personal ignorance. The Answersingenesis staff really are shameless liars.
Gerald
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AiG hardly threatens my worldview; the only thing that could do that is a verifiable manifestation of magical or psychic effects or entities. I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.carolus magnus said:
You misspelled "making themselves look like complete boneheads".
billwald said:
Right, which is why the largest flying boat with the largest wingspan of any flying craft in history would have been impossible to construct out of wood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hughes_H-4_Hercules