toldailytopic: Why does the mainstream media lean so far to the left? What's the root

aCultureWarrior

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Ugggh.

Centrist and Leftist out number the rightwing, so they have more money and can control more of the media. So you see more centrist and leftist slanted networks. It's not a complicated thing, for pete's sake.

We're not talking about opinion columns here Quincy. We're talking about the purposeful left-wing slant of the news.
 

noguru

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Do you need proof?



I think the Wright Brothers thread is down the block nog. We're talking about biased media reporting here. The last time I checked, journalists have to have college degrees, and liberal bias is prevalent in journalism school.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Liberal_bias

If you are limiting your crticism of academia to journalism school, I will not debate you. However, your comment seemed to be more of a blanket statement designed to impugn all of academia.

Out of hundreds of people I know that have attended higher education. Only 2 of those sought a degree in journalism. One, who is decidedly conservative, abandoned that and went in the direction philosophy and political science because of my influence. He now is in charge of marketing for a fence company in the southeast US. The other, who is a little more to the left than I, owns a successful quarterly paper in southern New England. I also knew a taxi driver in Miami who use to also write articles for hunting/fishing magazines.

I realize none of these people are part of the "mainstream media". But I would like to know why anyone would uncritically listen to mainstream media. They are, after all, more comitted to ratings and superficial entertainment than they are to unbiased reporting.
 

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I would be willing to make a monetary bet against you on that point. Rush owning CNN would make it turn a huge profit and put it up there in the ratings with FOX news. The rest of the news programs would fade into obscurity with only diehard leftwingers like the horn and the barbarian and alateone to be there watching it.

If Rush owned CNN, it would still be leaning far to the left.
Rush is a pretend conservative. He is a talking head that doesn't believe the words coming out of his mouth.
Just yesterday he was talking with pride about how Elton John performed at his wedding two years ago.
:vomit:
 

genuineoriginal

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Conservatives want to change the world by doing things. Liberals want to change the world by talking about it.

You forgot the part where the Liberal politicians use that talk to take our money to help the poor and make sure that two cents of every dollar taken are actually used to help the poor.
 

noguru

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If Rush owned CNN, it would still be leaning far to the left.
Rush is a pretent conservative. He doesn't believe the words coming out of his mouth.
Just yesterday he was talking with pride about how Elton John performed at his wedding two years ago.
:vomit:

Rush does not want to alienate the fiscally conservative gays in his fan base.
 

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Ugggh.

Centrist and Leftist out number the rightwing, so they have more money and can control more of the media. So you see more centrist and leftist slanted networks. It's not a complicated thing, for pete's sake.

From where does this information come?

I've never heard anything remotely similar, but if true it raises another question:
Are we seeing an increase in political division along generational lines?

If so, if more and more young adults are rejecting their conservative upbringing in favor of liberal activism (or, God forbid, trying to find middle ground instead of "sticking to your guns"), then it seems logical to conclude that "rightwingers" will eventually go extinct.

That said, I very much doubt that any kind of outnumbering is actually occurring, though if it is then it is the political cynics gradually outnumbering the political activists.

I and many of my friends in my age group were raised in a household with a particular political bias.
At some point, we rebelled against our parents' ideals to fight for the other end of the spectrum.

Eventually (from extensive research and overall disgust with the results of the political process) we concluded that while both sides of the spectrum have something to offer, the fact of the matter is that the PEOPLE who claim to represent the ideals of whichever end of the spectrum (and by extension, the citizens who hold to those ideals) are nothing but corporate greed personified.
 

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I would be willing to make a monetary bet against you on that point. Rush owning CNN would make it turn a huge profit and put it up there in the ratings with FOX news. The rest of the news programs would fade into obscurity with only diehard leftwingers like the horn and the barbarian and alateone to be there watching it.

I on't know about that Volt...to me he's a bit like Stern. They both appeal mightily to a not inconsiderable slice of the market but they're so geared to that it does't work well outside of that niche. Remember, the audience you need for a best seller (sell around 4,000 a week and you're on the N.Y. Times Bestseller list in a week) or a successful radio show (radio hasn't had a good track record on figuring ears until fairly recently) is far short of the numbers you need to sustain tv.
 

aCultureWarrior

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If you are limiting your crticism of academia to journalism school, I will not debate you. However, your comment seemed to be more of a blanket statement designed to impugn all of academia.

Sorry, but that's the topic here: liberal media bias. These journalists are learning to be biased with their reporting somewhere, and it's proven (as shown in the Conservapedia link that I provided) that journalism school is one of the places it's occurring.

Out of hundreds of people I know that have attended higher education. Only 2 of those sought a degree in journalism. One, who is decidedly conservative, abandoned that and went in the direction philosophy and political science because of my influence. He now is in charge of marketing for a fence company in the southeast US. The other, who is a little more to the left than I, owns a successful quarterly paper in southern New England. I also knew a taxi driver in Miami who use to also write articles for hunting/fishing magazines.

I realize none of these people are part of the "mainstream media". But I would like to know why anyone would uncritically listen to mainstream media. They are, after all, more comitted to ratings and superficial entertainment than they are to unbiased reporting.

To be honest with you nog, I'm not the least bit interested in your personal experiences ("I know a guy who knows a guy..").

But since I'm on the topic of indoctrinating impressionable young minds, let me use as an example a recent high school journalism conference here in Seattle, where homosexual/hater of God and all things decent Dan Savage was a "guest speaker".
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/30/NSPA-JEA-Denounce-Savage

As shown in the article, after "praising the speech's "level of thoughtfulness and deliberation", public pressure must have gotten to the organizers (i.e. the hierarchy of the left-wing Washington State Teacher's Union) and they apologized for having this moral degenerate speak in front of children.
 

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Rush does not want to alienate the fiscally conservative gays in his fan base.

While Limbaugh rarely talks about social issues, I have to hand it to him: the other day he asked why an institution that has been beneficial to society for thousands of years (marriage) is being redefined to meet the wants of 2.8% of the population.
 

noguru

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To be honest with you nog, I'm not the least bit interested in your personal experiences ("I know a guy who knows a guy..").

Gee, that's suprising. I guess the only opinion that is important is your own. ;)

You are free to stay on your soapbox.
 

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While Limbaugh rarely talks about social issues, I have to hand it to him: the other day he asked why an institution that has been beneficial to society for thousands of years (marriage) is being redefined to meet the wants of 2.8% of the population.
In the same sense that allowing blacks to eat in public restaurants in the South in the 60s redefined dining. :rolleyes:
 

aCultureWarrior

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Gee, that's suprising. I guess the only opinion that is important is your own. ;)

You are free to stay on your soapbox.

Don't get me wrong here nog, I love hearing personal experience stories, but they don't make your case.

Care to talk about Dan Savage berating Christianity at a high school journalism conference now?
 

noguru

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Don't get me wrong here nog, I love hearing personal experience stories, but they don't make your case.

Care to talk about Dan Savage berating Christianity at a high school journalism conference now?

:rotfl:

You need to relax and think officer. I know you can do it, there are police officers who are quite adept at that.

I've read Savages column for many years in the Miami New Times. While I do not agree with much of what he says, I think he has a view point that needs to be heard.

I am not easily offended by people. So why would I be offended by a syndicated sex columnists take on Christianity? You need to thicken up your skin a little and stop being a whimp.

Were you as equally offended by Dr. Ruth's commentaries on sexual relations?
 
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aCultureWarrior

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Limbaugh rarely talks about social issues? Which issues does he discuss then?

He rarely talks about homosexuality, abortion, pornography, those things that are at the forefront of the culture war.

Limbaugh mainly speaks about economic issues.
 
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