Buzz
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Then you are my enemy, and the enemy of my family.
toldailytopic: Romney vs Obama round one. Thoughts? Assessment?
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Romney won the debate, which had to make him cheer up a little. Good thing, too...
The job market is finally showing some juice.
The unemployment rate fell to 7.8 percent in September, the Labor Department said Friday, from 8.1 percent in July, its lowest since January 2009. It is a surprising show of improvement in a job market that had seemed listless in recent months. Unlike in August, the number improved for the right reason: not because people gave up looking for jobs, but because far more people reported having one.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...b6e5bc-0ee7-11e2-a310-2363842b7057_story.html
Romney must feel like the guy who won the door prize at a party, and got hit by a bus going home.
The job market is finally showing some juice.
The unemployment rate fell to 7.8 percent in September, the Labor Department said Friday, from 8.1 percent in July, its lowest since January 2009. It is a surprising show of improvement in a job market that had seemed listless in recent months. Unlike in August, the number improved for the right reason: not because people gave up looking for jobs, but because far more people reported having one.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...b6e5bc-0ee7-11e2-a310-2363842b7057_story.html
Romney must feel like the guy who won the door prize at a party, and got hit by a bus going home.
You know that Romney and Obama aren't your only choices but you will still vote for Romney even though you said it's absolutely not the move you want.
Buzz
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They are the only choices that have any possibility of winning the election. I'm not naive or foolish to think otherwise. Voting for someone else in like buying lottery tickets and refusing to work cause you think you might be the big winner.
it is more like playing the dumb card
This attitude is exactly why the other candidates don't stand a chance.
I don't think even the alternative candidates think they can win. They're running to shore up an agenda and to demonstrate a degree of popular support for it.
No, it's like refusing to support someone who doesn't represent your substantive views on the issues. If it was between Hitler and Stalin would you vote? If not then it's just a matter of degree.
I'm not voting for either of them. I'm done voting for the lesser of two practical evils.
Buzz
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Yeah right, that's it. :darwinsm:
What is your strategy to change the minds of tens of millions of people over the next month? I'm listening.
Buzz
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It's possible that they are just as deluded as their voters.
That ship has sailed. It's time to enter into reality, and to do what is strategically astute.
No one does.
Yes, and it's not.
Then you've never voted, and you're not voting for anyone this time.
Unlikely that either are deluded. Every candidate runs polls. Every voter is inundated by that data. Like I said, it's not about winning the office. That office has been bought by the two primary parties and they aren't sharing it. But if enough people become disenfranchised the parties will have to address outside concerns to bring in the dissatisfied vote.
I don't agree, either in principle or as a matter of pragmatic application. I don't see any gain in supporting fraud and that's how I see the two majority candidates... I tried that for a while, hoping to get something instead of nothing. It's a bad trade to my mind and one that works against what virtue is left in the enterprise. I'm not going to club you over it, because I shared your view not long ago and no one could have talked me out of it but me.
Now I have.
I wrote: I'm not voting for either of them. I'm done voting for the lesser of two practical evils.
That doesn't follow. In fact, it's negated by the tense set out above. I'm done. I will no longer do.
It's possible I might not. Or I may vote for a third party candidate. I'm still thinking that one over.
Buzz
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Then it's the lessor of 3 evils. (or 4 etc.)
I don't agree, but I understand your position.
Buzz
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Really? Please introduce me to your candidate. Is his mother's name Mary?
If I was voting on a religious platform that wouldn't help Romney out any, but I'm not voting for clergy. I'm also not voting for someone who doesn't represent my point of view on a majority of the issues. To me, citizenship begins with personal responsibility and the exercise of that as individuals. We can't have anything like representation if we don't first represent ourselves clearly. I understand principled compromise, but its foundation has to be something more than that spirit.
When you stand before God will this be your excuse?
Ding ding... ding ding... ding ding ding ding!
Really?
The reason I don't need to read them is because it is the same argument you made four years ago; and the same argument I have heard from many these past two presidential elections.
It all comes down to, "Now is not the time." So I ask, when is the time? When will it be time?
And I am not your enemy.
P.S.
Am I helping to get Romney elected since I will not vote for Obama for the very same reasons?
Daedalean's_Sun
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Romney's performance in the last debate surprised a lot of people including liberals, although it should be no surprise that the economy is Obama's greatest weakness, he will probably fare better on the social issues in upcoming debates, whether or not he is able to beat Romney in the next debate remains to be seen.