The violent reality of Christianity

[Tinark]

The religion that reveres the individual who said yes I will gut my son to prove my obedience and the God who used such a test:

The religion that reveres the individual who uttered these words:

15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

And

44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

From the God who commanded the following:

3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

From the God who committed the following act:

For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

And after all that violence, this is the religion whose God decided that not enough babies had been killed to make the universe right:

And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

And this is only a small sample of the hundreds of acts of cruelty and violence documented in the book the Christians revere:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

List of Christian violence throughout history:

Some modern examples:

The murder of Dr. George Tiller, May 31, 2009.

The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994.

The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996.

The murder of Barnett Slepian byJames Charles Kopp, Oct. 23, 1998.

Planned Parenthood bombing, Brookline, Massachusetts, 1994.

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/03/the_10_worst_examples_of_christian_or_far_right_terrorism_partner/

Historical Christian violence:

Gunpowder Plot

Pogroms

Ku Klux Klan

Anti-Muslim violence in Central Africa

Anti-Hindu violence in India

Forced Conversions

Support of slavery

Violence against Jews

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_violence

And:

Second War of Kappel

Crusades

German Peasants’ War

French Wars Of Religion

Thirty Years’ War

Eighty Years’ War

http://addictivelists.com/10-biggest-religious-wars-ever-fought/

Examples of Christian violence on this board:

Nuke Yemen: An effective strategy

"Target Mecca first, no warning."

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107151

She is doing it wrong. If they resist, bind them and make them wish they hadn't resisted. And use a paddle, not your hands.

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3407802&postcount=3

Death penalty for the following:

"Premeditated murder.

Manslaughter, where the perpetrator was in possession of a deadly force, and has rendered himself, or herself incapacitated, by drink, or drug, or circumstance of evading a crime, or in commission of a deadly act of aggression.

Rape. Either a girl, or boy, woman, or man. Rape defined by the intrusion of any object where the result is loss of self, or self worth.

Child molestation, any act on a child under age 10, or any form of intrusion, be it contact, other than rape.

Any enticing a minor, male, or female into prostitution, Also, physically forcing any adult to do the same.

Making available any harmful substance, or drug to a minor.

Physical harm, without other criminal intent, other than the desire to harm, where the victim suffers a disability, or requires intensive care.

Felony battery, any act resulting in physical harm, while in commission of a felony.

Kidnapping, all minors, and anyone for the purpose of ransom, or debasing acts.

Robbery, where anyone is physically harmed.

Harming anyone while in commission of a burglary of one’s private space, home, or car, RV, rested hotel, or other private space, where intruder breaks into said space.

Harming anyone with a lethal weapon, gun, or other lethal weapon, or item used as a lethal weapon, while in commission of a crime.

Male homosexuality with a minor.

Battery, were the victim suffers a disability.

Any criminal act, which results in the victim taking his or her life.

Physically harming, or exploiting anyone who is severely mentally handicapped.

Any hate crime, resulting in victim disability, or is critical life threatening.
"

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4114547&postcount=7

Once again, just a small sample.

Is it any wonder that such a violent book and God has inspired such violence?

Will the Christians on this board look themselves in the mirror when they rail against Muslim violence?

 

[patrick jane]

The religion that reveres the individual who said yes I will gut my son to prove my obedience and the God who used such a test:

The religion that reverses the individual who uttered these words:



And


yep. all God's fault. makes sense. if you don't think about it - :vomit:
From the God who commanded the following:



From the God who committed the following act:



And after all that violence, this is the religion whose God decided that not enough babies had been killed to make the universe right:



And this is only a small sample of the hundreds of acts of cruelty and violence documented in the book the Christians revere:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

List of Christian violence throughout history:

Some modern examples:



http://www.salon.com/2013/08/03/the_10_worst_examples_of_christian_or_far_right_terrorism_partner/

Historical Christian violence:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_violence

Is it any wonder that such a violent book and God has inspired such violence?

Will the Christians on this board look themselves in the mirror when they rail against Muslim violence?

 

[fzappa13]

When one sees only the bad done by those who claim Christ and ignores the good done by same I think it says more about the observer than the observed.

 

[Tinark]

When one sees only the bad done by those who claim Christ and ignore the good done by same I think it says more about the observer than the observed.

Will you lay out the same statement for those who make similar claims for the adherents of Islam?

 

[patrick jane]

blamer !

 

[fzappa13]

Will you lay out the same statement for those who make similar claims for the adherents of Islam?

As a matter of fact I offered Romans 2:14 to a Muslim store owner who was being harassed by a Baptist college student.

 

[Tinark]

As a matter of fact I offered Romans 2:14 to a Muslim store owner who was being harassed by a Baptist college student.

And yet you seem conspicuously absent from the anti-Muslim threads on this board, even the one calling for a nuclear strike against them:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107267

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107151

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106296

You'll notice I never advocated for any violence against Christians, let alone a nuclear strike, and yet what I wrote was still worthy of a response from you.

 

[fzappa13]

And yet you seem conspicuously absent from the anti-Muslim threads on this board, even the one calling for a nuclear strike against them:

Ah, you noticed that did you? What does THAT say about Christians?

You'll notice I never advocated for any violence against Christians, let alone a nuclear strike, and yet what I wrote was still worthy of a response from you.

And I have not advocated violence against atheists ... and what does that say about Christians?

 

[Stripe]

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Is this another one of those threads where you write a bunch of nonsense and then run away when asked to support what you claim?

 

[musterion]

When one sees only the bad done by those who claim Christ and ignores the good done by same I think it says more about the observer than the observed.

Indeed.

 

[musterion]

Will you lay out the same statement for those who make similar claims for the adherents of Islam?

Islam as a faith promotes violence, most importantly by the life example of Mohammed himself. Non-violent Muslims are actually far less consistent with the chronological order of their own scriptures than the violent ones.

On the other hand.

Faith in Christ, per the Bible, consistently PRECLUDES all force, coercion and violence in His name, or for any reason for that matter.

You cannot argue either of those facts.

We know that you already know all this, but you insist on stupid false equivalencies in order to draw attention to your juvenile self.

 

[meshak]

The violent reality of Christianity

Yes, it has been this way from the beginning of Christian history, starting with RCC and protestants following.

But you need to realize that is not true Christianity. Jesus is prince of peace.

He is not violent Savior or war monger. He does not advocate any kind of violence.

blessings.

 

[Aimiel]

Yes, it has been this way from the beginning of Christian history, starting with RCC and protestants following.

But you need to realize that is not true Christianity. Jesus is prince of peace.

He is not violent Savior or war monger. He does not advocate any kind of violence.

blessings.

He not only is The Prince of Peace, but He is also The Lion of the tribe of Judah. He will be VERY violent upon His return to this earth.

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

He will be The One Who will tread out the grapes of God's Wrath. He will bring God's Wrath to this earth and slay every single one of His enemies with His Words. He isn't just a lamb, He is also a Lion.

 

[musterion]

Meshak doesn't believe any part of the O.T. or Revelation that describes Christ as the vengeful, wrathful Judge.

 

[Aimiel]

Picking and choosing what Scriptures to believe and what ones to disregard is the mark of a cultist.

 

[This Charming Manc]

I think that though many of your points have some grounds this is a one eyed view.

I think most of the Christians on here have little comprehension of what the New Testament says regarding violence.

The religion that reveres the individual who said yes I will gut my son to prove my obedience and the God who used such a test:

The religion that reveres the individual who uttered these words:



And



From the God who commanded the following:



From the God who committed the following act:



And after all that violence, this is the religion whose God decided that not enough babies had been killed to make the universe right:



And this is only a small sample of the hundreds of acts of cruelty and violence documented in the book the Christians revere:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

List of Christian violence throughout history:

Some modern examples:



http://www.salon.com/2013/08/03/the_10_worst_examples_of_christian_or_far_right_terrorism_partner/

Historical Christian violence:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_violence

And:



http://addictivelists.com/10-biggest-religious-wars-ever-fought/

Examples of Christian violence on this board:



http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107151



http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3407802&postcount=3



http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4114547&postcount=7

Once again, just a small sample.

Is it any wonder that such a violent book and God has inspired such violence?

Will the Christians on this board look themselves in the mirror when they rail against Muslim violence?

 

[TomO]

Picking and choosing what Scriptures to believe and what ones to disregard is the mark of a cultist.

Yeah, well she's kinda a cult of one. lain:

 

[meshak]

Yeah, well she's kinda a cult of one. lain:

Everyone is cult to you who do not endorse your wicked faith.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Meshak doesn't believe any part of the O.T. or Revelation that describes Christ as the vengeful, wrathful Judge.

She also doesn't like Paul, and John! She ONLY likes; Matthew, Mark,
and Luke! That's it!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Meshak was claiming that, a lot of posters on TOL have been
"Flirting" with her! So, be cautious what you say to her!