More denials from ub an all we get is more ub. Have fun
The Late Great Urantia Revelation
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Lon
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Yes, they both have this in common: They are adhered to by the weakminded and willfully disobedient (goes hand in hand).Sorry to disappoint you Lon,...no "burning in the bosoms" required- Mormonism has no relationship to the UB.
:nono: I've told you on numerous times I've read this. Get this: JUST for you two. It is NOT amazing dissertation. :nono: I found it more juvenile and mindless dupe.
Well, then no wonder you buy the UB stuff. Your reading comprehension needs collegiate work.:crackup:
Oh boy,...but you cant resist coming back to drop your critiques and check out how things are going in such an awe inspiring thread
Don't try to bait me to keep any kind of negative attention on your pointless thread. ONLY God has promised His words will not return void. Yours and the UB surely will be tossed. Mine, but for scripture quoting as well.
Which is CLEARLY against the NT. There are no 'ah ha' moments here. It is heresy.
Nope. Inept try on your part.
Your adherence to the UB and Eastern fantasies requires, as I said prior, nothing of you. It is easy to buy what isn't true, if you've no desire to confront truth, no matter how inconvenient it may be for you. Think about that some. The N.T. is true.
Lon
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Thanks. Again for ears who have ears to hear. Wake up fellas.
Good news! Sherman doesn't want Freelight spewing his garbage into the Chatbox anymore. Better heed what she said Freelight. Alert your "Cosmic Authorities" that you've been limited.
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Bad news! Your pal Freelight can no longer spew his tripe into the Chatbox. :wave:
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Served.....
Served.....
For your information I wasn't spewing tripe, but appropriately responding to a question made to me. Just because a certain moderator called my commentary 'garbage' due to her own personal disdain towards any kind of liberal spirituality outside of her own narrow religious belief-system, does not mean that what I shared is that (quite the contrary), but one such as yourself who is a busy-body trolling buffoon, looking for any opportunity to jump back on the bandwagon of attacking me and your erroneous ideas of the UB, sure couldn't resist using that moderators remark to his own campaign agenda. And that's all you have to continue your trolling. All you got is a circus full of pre-judgments, mock-comments, diatribe and bully-tactics.
Find a new hobby.
Get out a litte more.
Get some fresh air.
Served here.
Served.....
For your information I wasn't spewing tripe, but appropriately responding to a question made to me. Just because a certain moderator called my commentary 'garbage' due to her own personal disdain towards any kind of liberal spirituality outside of her own narrow religious belief-system, does not mean that what I shared is that (quite the contrary), but one such as yourself who is a busy-body trolling buffoon, looking for any opportunity to jump back on the bandwagon of attacking me and your erroneous ideas of the UB, sure couldn't resist using that moderators remark to his own campaign agenda. And that's all you have to continue your trolling. All you got is a circus full of pre-judgments, mock-comments, diatribe and bully-tactics.
Find a new hobby.
Get out a litte more.
Get some fresh air.
Served here.
Freelight, you might consider trying to free yourself from "The Twilight Zone," before you get stuck there permanently. :kookoo:
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Freelight, how many Galaxies have you visited this year?
Are you considering any "Ride alongs" on one of your little green men friends, UFOs?
Have you had your "Chakras aligned lately?"
How about any "Out of Body" experiences?
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Gee, the Urantians sure are touchy.
New Zealand Pastor Blames Earthquakes on Homosexuals (and Other Sinners)
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friend...earthquakes-on-homosexuals-and-other-sinners/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friend...earthquakes-on-homosexuals-and-other-sinners/
120:0.1 "ASSIGNED BY GABRIEL to supervise the restatement of the life of Michael when on Urantia and in the likeness of mortal flesh, I, the Melchizedek director of the revelatory commission intrusted with this task, am authorized to present this narrative of certain events which immediately preceded the Creator Son’s arrival on Urantia to embark upon the terminal phase of his universe bestowal experience. To live such identical lives as he imposes upon the intelligent beings of his own creation, thus to bestow himself in the likeness of his various orders of created beings, is a part of the price which every Creator Son must pay for the full and supreme sovereignty of his self-made universe of things and beings."
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Urantia symbolism and ritual within a religious movement........
Urantia symbolism and ritual within a religious movement........
Here is an interesting video showing where passages in the UB both criticize religious institutionalism and its socializing forms (in their negative or retarding capabilities), but also acknowledge their usefulness if these organizations serve as instruments or facilitators of spiritual renewal, regeneration and transformation. It happens to be that most mortals need some kind of symbolism, art-form, vision, intellectual-physical representation, a system of ritual to help direct one towards the true goal of religion, which is personal and communal experience with God, the inward and life-transforming experience of God-communion. If any existing or new religious movements or organizations can serve as living instruments towards this realization, with the primary impetus of inspiring the progressive evolution of the soul of man towards perfection, it will have served its purpose nobly.
I think the challenge as Robert brings up, is how and in what organized form a new religious movement can thrive without any of the retardations or misfortunes of having the ritual and symbols supplant the actual personal religious experience, lest such a religion become relegated to a mechanical practice of the outward forms without the vivifying spirit being allowed to operate thru the forms, inspiring authentic worship.
I was wondering if a new global uprising of a Jesusonian Religion should spread,...would some of it be embraced within some liberal progressive forms or organizations of Christianity, who are often more open to such things, or would some centralized religious governing body be over a network of Urantian churches, local congregations within each city, within which the Jesusonian gospel is proclaimed, lived and realized as a 'socialized gospel' of real human growth. While the UB has many educational and home-study groups,....I was wondering what a branching out or 'churching' of the Urantia Message would look like, perhaps like just another progressive New Thought or Metaphysical Christian movement? I bring this up since in many cities we have a 'church' almost on every corner, and attendance to many churches has gone down, and 'organized religion' in general has gotten a bad rap. If we rename this as 'socialized religion', it becomes more palatable....since a socialized system where religious truths and principles can be taught, facilitated and lived, is most essential...if we are to have a real living religious 'ethic', 'ritual' and 'symbolism', an effective network of human relationships empowered and united to realize the divine intent.
Here is Robert's site here. Anyways,...just some thoughts and questions for any religionist, UB enthusiasts or otherwise. We have to question if a new religious movement or network of churches (fellowship) can have any real power to transform the strata of humanity or society. It would have to be the Spirit transforming lives one at a time, then spreading to affect whole communities. This calls us to consider how the kingdom of heaven will be realized here on earth, what are the obstacles to that, and what are our greatest tools and assets to bring that to pass. A lot to chew on! - but worth considering if we are to be the 'light' of the world, and follow the mandate of Jesus. A 'Jesusonian' gospel is essentially relationally a 'socialized gospel' because its aim is towards the rebirth of all souls into the realization of their sonship with God, awakening their faith as being a child of God, and living as citizens of his kingdom.
Urantia symbolism and ritual within a religious movement........
Here is an interesting video showing where passages in the UB both criticize religious institutionalism and its socializing forms (in their negative or retarding capabilities), but also acknowledge their usefulness if these organizations serve as instruments or facilitators of spiritual renewal, regeneration and transformation. It happens to be that most mortals need some kind of symbolism, art-form, vision, intellectual-physical representation, a system of ritual to help direct one towards the true goal of religion, which is personal and communal experience with God, the inward and life-transforming experience of God-communion. If any existing or new religious movements or organizations can serve as living instruments towards this realization, with the primary impetus of inspiring the progressive evolution of the soul of man towards perfection, it will have served its purpose nobly.
I think the challenge as Robert brings up, is how and in what organized form a new religious movement can thrive without any of the retardations or misfortunes of having the ritual and symbols supplant the actual personal religious experience, lest such a religion become relegated to a mechanical practice of the outward forms without the vivifying spirit being allowed to operate thru the forms, inspiring authentic worship.
I was wondering if a new global uprising of a Jesusonian Religion should spread,...would some of it be embraced within some liberal progressive forms or organizations of Christianity, who are often more open to such things, or would some centralized religious governing body be over a network of Urantian churches, local congregations within each city, within which the Jesusonian gospel is proclaimed, lived and realized as a 'socialized gospel' of real human growth. While the UB has many educational and home-study groups,....I was wondering what a branching out or 'churching' of the Urantia Message would look like, perhaps like just another progressive New Thought or Metaphysical Christian movement? I bring this up since in many cities we have a 'church' almost on every corner, and attendance to many churches has gone down, and 'organized religion' in general has gotten a bad rap. If we rename this as 'socialized religion', it becomes more palatable....since a socialized system where religious truths and principles can be taught, facilitated and lived, is most essential...if we are to have a real living religious 'ethic', 'ritual' and 'symbolism', an effective network of human relationships empowered and united to realize the divine intent.
Here is Robert's site here. Anyways,...just some thoughts and questions for any religionist, UB enthusiasts or otherwise. We have to question if a new religious movement or network of churches (fellowship) can have any real power to transform the strata of humanity or society. It would have to be the Spirit transforming lives one at a time, then spreading to affect whole communities. This calls us to consider how the kingdom of heaven will be realized here on earth, what are the obstacles to that, and what are our greatest tools and assets to bring that to pass. A lot to chew on!
- but worth considering if we are to be the 'light' of the world, and follow the mandate of Jesus. A 'Jesusonian' gospel is essentially relationally a 'socialized gospel' because its aim is towards the rebirth of all souls into the realization of their sonship with God, awakening their faith as being a child of God, and living as citizens of his kingdom.
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Oh dear. Well,....something metaphysically could be said about man's sin and his corruption affecting the Earth in some negative way, since we are all living within a universal global network of living energy systems. So in some sense, the travail of creation is connected with the destructive and ill effects of iniquity and rebellion coming into the cosmos. In a fragile eco-system, all things inter-relate, from thoughts, forms, matter and energy. Nothing is outside the creative matrix, the Unified Field. That asides....of course blaming particular cataclysms or earthquakes on specific acts of 'sin', occurring at specific locations because of the sinfulness of men, particularly for being gay, well...that's a stretch...unless one can show any real relation to sin or a unique practice of sin has effected disasters in particular parts in the world, and it can be proven scientifically (repeated over and over again) to show a real trend or pattern. Otherwise,...its just more religious speak, which can open the door to manipulation and bigotry....all in the name of 'God' of course.
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