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steko

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That's hillarious! Why would the kingdom gospel be preached to all the other nations, when it is supposedly only for Israel?

What dispensationalist ever said that?

Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen[nations] for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

MAD is mad indeed!

Which again just demonstrates that you continually argue against you know not what and that some of us are just sitting back watching as you carry on in your proud endeavor.
 

1Mind1Spirit

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What dispensationalist ever said that?

Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen[nations] for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.



Which again just demonstrates that you continually argue against you know not what and that some of us are just sitting back watching as you carry on in your proud endeavor.

So are you saying those heathens were preached the kingdom gospel?

Which would have been done only by the twelve?
 

Lazy afternoon

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Yeah, keep telling yourself that. It'll never come to fruition, but, keep saying it will. While you're at it, keep saying: "I'm the richest most famous person on earth." Perhaps you have a shot at that one anyway.

So you confess you are not under the King and in His Kingdom.

God has installed His King in Zion and we Christians are His subjects.

You have never entered His Kingdom or you would know His servants also.

LA
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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So you confess you are not under the King and in His Kingdom.

God has installed His King in Zion and we Christians are His subjects.

You have never entered His Kingdom or you would know His servants also.

LA

No. Jesus has yet to return to earth and sit on the throne of David. Even when He does, that will be reserved for His people Israel. (The Chosen People) I'm in the Body of Christ.
 

Interplanner

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No. Jesus has yet to return to earth and sit on the throne of David. Even when He does, that will be reserved for His people Israel. (The Chosen People) I'm in the Body of Christ.


There is nothing about this in the NT. Rom 2, 8, I Cor 15, 2 Tim 2, Heb 9, Acts 17, 2 Peter 3...

The apostles taught instead that what had been promised to David had been fulfilled in Christ, in Acts 2, 13 (on Isaiah 55), 15 (on Amos 9), Rom 1, Hebrews.

Of course you can always claim that you have it right and they have it wrong. But I won't be.

In cased you missed it, or missed the humor of it, all we get of a theocratic state in Judea on earth is 'the king mounted on the foal of a donkey.'
 

Interplanner

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Nope!


Act 12:1 Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church.
Act 12:2 And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.




The NT never says the kingdom of darkness was over with! It says it would be a war if the enthroned Son of God was to be proclaimed everywhere. Because the rulers of the nations are often very insecure and disturbed people, like Hilary.
 

steko

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The NT never says the kingdom of darkness was over with! It says it would be a war if the enthroned Son of God was to be proclaimed everywhere. Because the rulers of the nations are often very insecure and disturbed people, like Hilary.



Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Jer 23:7 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
Jer 23:8 But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.


Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ***, and upon a colt the foal of an ***.
Zec 9:10 And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen: and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.
 

Interplanner

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Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Jer 23:7 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
Jer 23:8 But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.


Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ***, and upon a colt the foal of an ***.
Zec 9:10 And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen: and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.



so...if you can't see that the "kingdom" includes a "Lord" on a foal, then I guess that verse was never fulfilled. A NT believer has to live with the paradox that they are to proclaim "Jesus is (the enthroned) Lord," yet they may face peril and sword, which cannot separate them from the love of God in Christ, but it is dismaying.

Believing what the NT actually says takes that kind of perseverance and maturity that accepts that. It does not promise any security until the NHNE, certainly not to just one ethnic group (Israel) for some odd reason like a rewind of ancient Israel's history.

btw Eph 2:17 is quoting Zech 9:10 as fulfilled in Christ. The kingdom turned out not to be a kind like those here on earth.
 

steko

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so...if you can't see that the "kingdom" includes a "Lord" on a foal, then I guess that verse was never fulfilled.

The Lord came to Jerusalem on a donkey in fulfillment of Zechariah's prophecy, however the prophecy is one sentence which included two verses. The first half of the sentence Zec 9:9 was fulfilled literally at Christ's first coming to Jerusalem.
The second half of the sentence Zec 9:10 will be fulfilled just as literally at His second coming to Jerusalem.

Of course that goes against your made up 1P1P paradigm which prevents you from believing what GOD has said through His holy prophets since the world began- Act 3:21.
 

TweetyBird

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You mock a lot.



Luk 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;



1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

LA

If you look at the Scripts you posted - it is obvious that believers are not part of the "House of "Israel" [which are ethnic Jews] but are a SPIRITUAL HABITATION [Jew and Gentile - known as Christians, not Jews and Gentiles "no mo"]. We are of the body of Christ and citizens of Heaven --- not of the nation of Israel - who rejected our Lord and Savior. Back to the drawing board for you :1Way:
 

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People do have to accept the final offer of justification, don't they?
Spin, spin, spin..... :juggle:

that is not Peter being deviant. It is just about the individual's responsibility--actually the whole generation.
Wow... so you really DO think that the ONLY thing that the word "saved" can possibly mean is eternal life? You are way out there man.

Because it was the most decisive generation of israel ever.
And what's Israel's is Israel's.
 
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