Consistently. Even for some of the posters on this forum. I even pray for people I know, that they may come to a saving knowledge of faith in Christ. You see, I'm not a Calvinist therefore, I'm in a position to pray for others salvation. I believe that in order to become saved in this Dispensation of Grace, one must hear the Grace Gospel and respond in faith towards Christ as their ONLY Savior.
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Consistently. Even for some of the posters on this forum. I even pray for people I know, that they may come to a saving knowledge of faith in Christ. You see, I'm not a Calvinist therefore, I'm in a position to pray for others salvation. I believe that in order to become saved in this Dispensation of Grace, one must hear the Grace Gospel and respond in faith towards Christ as their ONLY Savior.
Is that the ONLY explanation you can conclude with? The other side of the coin is, man HAS free will and therefore, has an ability to choose what he places his faith in.
You're wrong. Hyper-Calvinists believe God IS the author of ALL including sin. Ask B57 or Nanja?
Total control means exactly that!
So, you have NEVER sinned since becoming a member of the so called "Elect?" What about 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:" And, 1 John 1:10 "If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." So, are you calling God a liar if you say you don't sin? Of course you are, the Bible says so. Tell us you NEVER sin Nang after reading these two verses of Scripture.
Christ paid the price for the sins of ALL humanity. God's free gift of eternal life is open to anyone who is willing to place ALL their faith in Christ as their Savior. 1 Timothy 2:4 is God's true WILL. It states: "Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."
Those that reject this gift of God will stand before Him in judgment and be judged according to their works.
Revelation 20:12 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."
Those that reject this gift of God will stand before Him in judgment and be judged according to their works.
Revelation 20:12 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."
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I really wonder about your eyesight . . where did you read that I said I never sin?
The law of sin remains in my members, and I rely daily on the promises of the verses you gave out.
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I would encourage everyone to read and study the writings of the Apostle Paul. (Romans through Philemon) You will find how to become a member of the Body of Christ and a Child of God through Paul's writings. Romans 10:17 states: "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." If you're looking for saving faith, you'll find it in the writings of the Apostle Paul. For it is he who preaches the Grace Gospel today. That same Gospel is for Jew and Gentile alike. If you're not sure you're saved, pray to God before you open the Bible and read (Romans through Philemon) and pray that God will give you the wisdom and knowledge to understand what you're about to read. Tell God that you want to know how to enter eternal life and that you realize you're a sinner in need of forgiveness and a Savior which is the Lord Jesus Christ. I found eternal life by simply asking a question: "Am I going to Hell?" God brought me to a place where I found the answer. He'll do the same for you. If you have a question for God, simply ask Him and then, wait for the answer.
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And yet, according to my understanding of your doctrine, God chose saved and damned BEFORE any of the these people could have any chance to make these decisions.
BTW, thanks for the neg rep. Your doctrine is FULL of contradictions!
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Ignoring the answer given does not mean there is no answer to these sort of nonsensical statements. :AMR: But, carry on. You've been seen.
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I asked that question in 1963. I was 12 years old at the time. I'm 65 now.
I was only going by what Nang said. Your problem isn't with me it's with what she said.
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Asserted by you before and answered.
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...here-Between&p=4558668&viewfull=1#post4558668
You just wave off actual exegesis and press onward, apparently due to memory retention issues:
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...-Elected-Man&p=4634916&viewfull=1#post4634916
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I'm sorry, I find your posts far too lenghthy and complicated. I haven't the patience for reading such fine writings. That's on me. I take full responsibility for that. So, I didn't read the entirety of your post. However, I did read Nang's post and it said what it said. You or nobody else can get around it or rationalize it in any way. Understand?
I'm not interested in following you around. You're wasting your time if you believe I'm interested in doing so. Please make your point simple and to the point. Otherwise, I lose interest readily.
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Because the very prayers lifted up are in the ordained means of God's ends. Do you actually think by your prayers you are informing God of something He does not already know? Is God sitting around wringing His hands hoping someone will call upon Him to do this or that or to be informed of the goings on withing all that He created?
Odd, that is.
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I pray, I read, I study the Bible. However, when it comes to other languages, commentaries, scholarly dissertations, and what some group of individual's said 400 years ago, I have absolutely no interest. That's who you're dealing with here.
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No, Nang and all Reformed recognize that the horse in question is actually dead, dry bones, and until quickened by God (regenerated), will never be able to pull the cart in question.
Your view vs. the Reformed view:
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Spiritual corpses doe not resurrect themselves. :AMR:
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God is aware of ALL. However, if I were a Calvinist, wouldn't I just leave the eternal destination of others to God? After all, you people believe that God already chose who He would save and who He would send into eternal damnation, right? Prayers of this manner are seemingly of no value if what you people believed was true. (which it's not) God is Sovereign and has chosen whom He would save according to you and your ilk, correct?
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