Bobby do you lie because the law is abolished so you are now allowed to bare false witness...?
Would the Spirit lead you into stealing worship or good works from Him?
Robert's Gospel According to the Apostle Paul
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Bobby do you lie because the law is abolished so you are now allowed to bare false witness...?
Would the Spirit lead you into stealing worship or good works from Him?
(Rom 11:2) God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel:
Elijah lived in the Northern Nation of Israel.
Elijah was not a Jew.
(Rom 11:4) And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.
God reserved for Himself 7,000 Israelites from the 10 tribes.
The rest of the Israelites were scattered amongst the Gentiles, and 500 years later could not be distinguished from a Gentile.
The New Covenant joined the House of Israel with the House of Judah.
By including the Gentiles, the promise was kept to the lost tribes.
I flock, one shepherd.
Thanks John!
No, members of the boc are hostile to wolves, like yourself, wolfie.
Sure, wolfie-everyone listens to you, because you assert that you are the only one on TOL preaching justification by faith, and the only one on TOL that believes the bible.
Look at your "listening" audience, devil child:
Your page:This page has had 1,336 visits
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My page:This page has had 16,803 visits
Contrasts.
Most stay away from wolves.
And shut your filthy, satanic trap, you lying demon,full of spam as I/others, quote 10x the amount you quote, in isolation, but you delete them, ignore them, as you do with 3/4 of the scripture, satan follower.
We know you are suffering from dementia, demonic intoxication.
1. You changed the scripture again,
"Pate-ianity:" "The law is not made for a righteous man but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murders of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, but it no longer exists, and it cannot be for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murders of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,unless it is made void, destroyed."
... and satanically butcher its interpretation, asserting that if the law exists, you are under its authority, and denying that believers are considered dead, by definition, to AN EXISTING LAW, as Pate deletes...
Romans 7 KJV
2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. 4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Galatians 2:19 KJV For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
Read it, demon-the law exists.
Pate: Destroy the law, so that I am not under its jurisdiction, authority, and its condemnation/judgment!!!!
Destroy the law of other countries, so that I am not under its jurisdiction, authority, and its condemnation/judgment!!!!
Pate: Destroy God's law, which is not holy, not good, not spiritual, as it is contrary to us, not the sin debt/IOU/bond indenture/charges/penalty, as it is the problem, not me!!!!! Destroy it, make it void, so that there can be no sin debt for which "Jesus" he must die, so that no condemnation/judgment is possible, and He need not die in our place, taking our judgment/condemnation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is your satanic "solution," from the pits of hell, and your father, the devil, as you reject the substitutionary atonement, reject the doctrines of propitiation, identification, reconciliation, rejecting that Christ died for our sins, our sin debt, rejecting that He took the condemnation/judgment in our place, for breaking His existing law, and instead assert that there is now no condemnation/judgment for those in Christ, because there is no condemnation/judgment possible, as there is no law condemning anyone.
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This satanist is so demonically intoxicated, he can't think straight.
-He asserts, citing 1 Timothy 1:9 KJV, that the laws was made for "the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murders of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers...Which is true, but the law no longer exists. He attempts to, with insane logic, justify this clown, demon "logic," with, "Well, the law was eliminated, no longer exists, is void/destroyed,for some, but not for others," butchering the meaning of "made void/destroyed."
-he cites for murders of fathers and murderers of mothers,and murder, is according to the law, but it does not exist.
=he belongs in 666 straight jackets. That is what dementia, and demon possession does to one.
-He says that he is a sinner, yet 1 Timoithy 1:9 KJV states that the law was made for sinners-thus, Him.
Watch the spam, copy'npaste, word-for-word convoluted "logic" he litters back, along with his other spam.
Watch.
2 Kings 17:20-34
20 And Jehovah rejected all the seed of Israel, and afflicted them, and delivered them into the hand of spoilers, until he had cast them out of his sight.
21 For he rent Israel from the house of David; and they made Jeroboam the son of Nebat king: and Jeroboam drove Israel from following Jehovah, and made them sin a great sin.
22 And the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they departed not from them;
23 until Jehovah removed Israel out of his sight, as he spake by all his servants the prophets. So Israel was carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day.
24 And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Avva, and from Hamath and Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel; and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof.
25 And so it was, at the beginning of their dwelling there, that they feared not Jehovah: therefore Jehovah sent lions among them, which killed some of them.
26 Wherefore they spake to the king of Assyria, saying, The nations which thou hast carried away, and placed in the cities of Samaria, know not the law of the god of the land: therefore he hath sent lions among them, and, behold, they slay them, because they know not the law of the god of the land.
27 Then the king of Assyria commanded, saying, Carry thither one of the priests whom ye brought from thence; and let them go and dwell there, and let him teach them the law of the god of the land.
28 So one of the priests whom they had carried away from Samaria came and dwelt in Beth-el, and taught them how they should fear Jehovah.
29 Howbeit every nation made gods of their own, and put them in the houses of the high places which the Samaritans had made, every nation in their cities wherein they dwelt.
30 And the men of Babylon made Succoth-benoth, and the men of Cuth made Nergal, and the men of Hamath made Ashima,
31 and the Avvites made Nibhaz and Tartak; and the Sepharvites burnt their children in the fire to Adrammelech and Anammelech, the gods of Sepharvaim.
32 So they feared Jehovah, and made unto them from among themselves priests of the high places, who sacrificed for them in the houses of the high places.
33 They feared Jehovah, and served their own gods, after the manner of the nations from among whom they had been carried away.
34 Unto this day they do after the former manner: they fear not Jehovah, neither do they after their statutes, or after their ordinances, or after the law or after the commandment which Jehovah commanded the children of Jacob, whom he named Israel;
(Heb 9:15) For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.
And? You assert that there is no law, "post cross,"for which He must die.
You deny that Christ died for our sins, according to the scripture, paying the sin debt, penalty, for breaking, by definition, a for ever" existing, not void spiritual, holy, good law of God.
We know.
Psalms 111 KJV
7 The works of his hands are verity and judgment;all his commandments are sure.8 They stand fast for ever and ever,
You: Nope-the law was destroyed, eliminated, made void, at the cross-it no longer exists.
Romans 3:31 KJV Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
You: Nope-the law was destroyed, eliminated, made void, at the cross-it no longer exists.
Acts 28:23 KJV And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.
You: Nope-Paul was drunk, when he wrote this, as I am still, from New Year's-the law was destroyed, eliminated, made void, at the cross-it no longer exists.
Romans 2:23 KJV thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
You: Nope-the law was destroyed, eliminated, made void, at the cross-it no longer exists.
Romans 7:22 KJV For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
You: Nope-the law was destroyed, eliminated, made void, at the cross-it no longer exists.
Romans 7:25 KJV I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
You: Nope-the law was destroyed, eliminated, made void, at the cross-it no longer exists.
Romans 8:7 KJV Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
You: Nope-the law was destroyed, eliminated, made void, at the cross-it no longer exists.
1 Corinthians 9:9 KJV For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
You: Nope, Paul-you cannot quote out of the law of Moses-the law was destroyed, eliminated, made void, at the cross-it no longer exists.
There was a remnant of 7,000 that God reserved for Himself.
150 years after the Assyrian invasion of Israel, and the taking away of the 10 tribes; we learn the following (during the reign of Josiah in Judah):
(2 Chron 34:9) They went to Hilkiah the high priest and gave him the money that had been brought into the temple of God, which the Levites who were the gatekeepers had collected from the people of Manasseh, Ephraim and the entire remnant of Israel and from all the people of Judah and Benjamin and the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
Notice the distinction between Manasseh, Ephraim, and the entire remnant of Israel (10 tribes from the House of Israel) from the Jews of Judah & Benjamin.
Explain Heb 9:15?
I don't fall for your bait'nswitch.
Explain every passage I gave, and why you lie, when you "splain" away all the passages re. the law of God still existing.
You assert "no longer a law of God...-poof, Gone, made void..destroyed."
You lied. Why?
Explain why you revise, "Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures," to, "Christ died to destroy the law, so that there is no sins, sin debt for which He might die."
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I'm not seeing the point you are trying to make.
(Rom 8:2 KJV) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Don't you want to be free from the law of sin and death?
Explain why you assert that a virgin giving birth to a human is impossible, and how it is impossible for a dead man to be raised, and......................................................(it is against TOL rules to have a 10 page post).
Already answered in a previous post. You just lied again. Why? Why the devious debating ploy? An addiction?
Why do you say that "the law of sin and death"="the law of God?"
You lied-again. Why? Your motivation?
Prove me wrong John.
All you have to do is tell us what scripture Jesus was referring to in John 7:38:
(John 7:38 KJV) He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Just show us the OT scripture that prophecies living water flowing out?
I made my case that the scripture Jesus was referring to was Zech 14:8
Show us what scripture Jesus was referring to? That's all you have to do to prove me wrong.
Because that's what Paul said about it.
(2 Cor 3:7 KJV) But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
Translation: If the law exists, you are condemned/judged, with no recourse.Thus, the law of God must be destroyed, eliminated, made void, so that no condemnation/judgment, is possible.
Vs.
Members of the boc: We break, by definition, God's existing, holy, good, spiritual law. But we are freed from its corresponding sin debt/IOU/charges/bond indenture/condemnation/judgment/death, due to that sin, because the Saviour took our place in judgment, condemnation, death, tasting the wages of sin, which is death,death for every man(Hebrews 2:9 KJV), in our place, paying for our sin debt/penalty/charges, thus freeing us from the consequences of "the law of sin and death."
Ezekiel 18: 4 KJV, Ezekiel 18:20
the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Romans 6:23 KJV For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 8:2 KJV For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Romans 7 KJV
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 but I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
v 22-Paul references the first law: "‘the law of God." V 23-Pauls calls the same law: "the law of my mind." V 25- these are the same thing. By "mind'-his intelligent thought. In his regenerated spirit, the Spirit of Christ within him, he delights in, loves this law. Romans 8:2 KJV, Paul asserts, calls it, "the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus." Thus, via the power of the Holy Spirit, this law brings life to Paul’s own spirit.
In v 23 of Romans 7 KJV, Paul calls the second law "another law," I.e., "the law of sin." Thus, In Romans 8:2 KJV, Paul gives its full name: "the law of sin and death."
You sin, you die......The wages of sin is death....What frees him? Knowing that the Saviour took his place........................................................................................................
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No, you are changing your argument, moving the goal posts, engaging in bait'n switch, misdirection.
Explain why you assert that a virgin giving birth to a human is impossible, and how it is impossible for a dead man to be raised, and............................................... .......(it is against TOL rules to have a 10 page post).
All you have to do is tell us why you say the above is impossible.
I say that the resurrection, a virgin birth, is not impossible, like you assert. Prove me wrong.
See how that works? Check.
And stop ignoring the challenges to your "argument." and deceitfully asserting that yours have not been addressed.
An atheist, (fill in the blank), to you:It is literally impossible for God/"god" to create the heaven and earth in 6 days, it is literally impossible for God to have a virgin give birth to anyone, it is literally impossible for God to enable a man to walk on water, it is literally impossible for God to have men restore limbs, it is literally impossible for God to make the blind see, and enable men to make the blind see, it is literally impossible to raise someone from the dead,and enable men to raise the dead, it is literally impossible for God............................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ........................
You: Well, uh, urr, you see, well, you see....
It is called humanism, i.e., I do not understand how your God can/would(fill in the blank). What I cannot understand, I will not believe. Therefore, your God cannot,would not, and did not (fill in the blank).
That is how an atheist, a humanist, dismisses the concept of "hell," and how the predominantly Christ rejecting world, dismisses the resurrection-impossible.
Well done, Craig. Do members of the boc, and the LORD God a "favor:" sit down, and be silent, when you get the "urge" to witness, defend, persuade, dispute, with these lost types. You will firm up their already false doctrines, turning them further away from being convince of the rationality, veracity, of our faith.
Still waiting for you to tell us how a dead man can rise from the dead, or a virgin can give birth, or.........................Tell us about how it is literally and physically impossible for God., humans to raise the dead, how it is literally and physically impossible for a virgin to give birth to a human, or..........................................Tell us these are just "metaphorical."
Do be a dear. Teach us-please?
Either defend this part of your premise,answering my challenge to it, or drop it, fold.
Paul also said,
"Who also has made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter (law) but of the spirit: for the letter (law) kills, but the spirit gives life" 2 Corinthians 3:6.
You misinterpreted(the context is that “The reference to the ministry of death" includes the death penalty for violating God’s spiritual, holy, good,law..... The penalties were first written in the Book of the Law of Moses, and then engraved on massive stones. Since Christ died for us, for breaking His existing law, we don’t have to pay the death penalty,"the wages of sin is death"...."the law of sin and death".....The problem is not with the law, as Paul further explains, in Romans 7, it is with you/us)
But I do not fall for your misdirection. Answer my questions.
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