themuzicman
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I've been pondering the various eschatologies and the problems with each, and thinking about the relevant texts that we associate with them. and I'd like to propose an idea to discuss:
Scripture actually speaks about two escatologies, one for the Old Covenant (prophesied in the Old Testament, and possibly during Jesus' life), and one for the New Covenant, which is spoken of in the New Testament.
So, the major Old Covenant Eschatologies are Daniel 9 and Joel 2:28-32.
Daniel 9 speaks of 70 sevens being allocated before judgment.
Joel 2 speaks of tongues and prophecy and visions and dreams ahead of the destruction of a kingdom, and people having to escape. Peter speaks of Pentecost being the initiation of the Joel 2 prophecy.
Jesus also speaks of the destruction of the temple in Matthew 24.
These would seem to comprise the escaton, the end, of the Old Covenant.
We then have the escaton of the New Covenant, which is obviously resurrection to judgment, but also the "man of sin."
And then there is Revelation, which would appear to be eschaton for the New Covenant, given the ending.
I think this at least begins to unravel the confusion of making all eschaton prophecies about one end time, as it seems there is a fairly clear distinction between Israel's eschaton, and that of the world as we know it.
Thoughts?
Scripture actually speaks about two escatologies, one for the Old Covenant (prophesied in the Old Testament, and possibly during Jesus' life), and one for the New Covenant, which is spoken of in the New Testament.
So, the major Old Covenant Eschatologies are Daniel 9 and Joel 2:28-32.
Daniel 9 speaks of 70 sevens being allocated before judgment.
Joel 2 speaks of tongues and prophecy and visions and dreams ahead of the destruction of a kingdom, and people having to escape. Peter speaks of Pentecost being the initiation of the Joel 2 prophecy.
Jesus also speaks of the destruction of the temple in Matthew 24.
These would seem to comprise the escaton, the end, of the Old Covenant.
We then have the escaton of the New Covenant, which is obviously resurrection to judgment, but also the "man of sin."
And then there is Revelation, which would appear to be eschaton for the New Covenant, given the ending.
I think this at least begins to unravel the confusion of making all eschaton prophecies about one end time, as it seems there is a fairly clear distinction between Israel's eschaton, and that of the world as we know it.
Thoughts?