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PureX

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If one supports the Second Amendment (Lk 22:36), he's :CRASH: a terrorist. :idunno:
"All this aside, however, it is in no ones best interest to arm criminals, fools, idiots, drunks, dope fiends, rage-mongers, and the otherwise blind and/or insane. So clearly, regardless of how we interpret the Constitution, some intelligent regulation is both wise and necessary."
 

HisServant

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Sounds like the founders were in favor of gun regulation. Someone might want to inform the gun lobby that the right to bear arms doesn't include any idiot who thinks he needs to be his own government and army.

Actually, some founding fathers wanted to force every household to have a gun. Militia back than was just called up voluntary citizenry that were supposed to supply their own guns and ammo.

The reason for this was to give the citizenry the ability to rise up and overthrow the government should it get overbearing with a local militia.

If you remove guns from anyone, the list of restrictions will grow over time to the point where no one will own guns and the purpose of the second amendment is defeated... its a slippery slope.

Instead we should educate people on how to be a militia as the founders intended.

Given the current state of young people in this country, I think 1-2 years of required military/civil service that involved fire arm training should be mandatory.
 

PureX

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If you remove guns from anyone, the list of restrictions will grow over time to the point where no one will own guns and the purpose of the second amendment is defeated... its a slippery slope.
Saying this does not make it true. Nor is the alternative any more acceptable, or reasonable: that we allow any moron who thinks he needs a pile of guns to have them.

Clearly, we are intelligent enough to set up a system of oversight that would strike a balance between our right to have guns and our need to regulate those who have them for our own safety.
Instead we should educate people on how to be a militia as the founders intended.
That would be a terrible idea. We are far to huge a country for that sort of thing to make any sense, now. Plus, we already have a standing army, so there is no need for a 'militia'. And having one would only encourage violence and chaos every time the government made a law that some group or other doesn't like.

We have a "militia", it's called the U.S. military. It is comprised our own husbands, wives, sons, and daughters. It will not turn against us and if the government ever dares to command it to do so, I believe it would then turn on the government. As long a WE fill the ranks of the military, and not a bunch of paid criminals or mercenaries, we are safe from that threat.
Given the current state of young people in this country, I think 1-2 years of required military/civil service that involved fire arm training should be mandatory.
I think young people doing a few years of civil service would be a great idea … in exchange for higher education, let's say. I don't think it necessitates militarism, however. Although, anyone who wanted to join the military should be welcomed, so long as they are able.
 

serpentdove

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"Share a HBO Go login? Not only are you a hacker, the government considers you a terrorist." Matthew Keys Reuters

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The Horn

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There is nothing in the second amendment which says the government may not make laws controlling guns for safety .
This is NOT the same thing as making guns illegal and confiscating them .
Such laws make sense and are absolutely essential . What's all the fuss about ?
Number of guns confiscated by the Obama administration so far :
ZERO. Zip. Nada . Bupkis . Not a single one . Why all the paranoid hysteria ?
 

patrick jane

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There is nothing in the second amendment which says the government may not make laws controlling guns for safety .
This is NOT the same thing as making guns illegal and confiscating them .
Such laws make sense and are absolutely essential . What's all the fuss about ?
Number of guns confiscated by the Obama administration so far :
ZERO. Zip. Nada . Bupkis . Not a single one . Why all the paranoid hysteria ?

You're saying that no federal agencies confiscated guns in 7 years ?

What else are you trying to sell ?
 

The Horn

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How many people who own guns in America have had their homes invaded by government agents and their guns confiscated ? NONE .
We would have heard about this by now , and people would have complained bitterly . But this has yet to happen . Nor will it .
 

patrick jane

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How many people who own guns in America have had their homes invaded by government agents and their guns confiscated ? NONE Millions .
We would have heard about this by now , and people would have complained bitterly . But this has yet to happen . Nor will it .

Maybe not millions but some is more than none.
 

The Horn

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Please cite incidents of the government confiscating guns under Obama. If this had happened, it would have been news .
Obama is NOT a "tyrant" and he's not aiming to impose "communism" on America by confiscating guns .
Conservatives SHOULD however, be VERY afraid of the sinister agenda of the Republican (Repugnican ) party - taking their medicare and social security away . Denying them medical care f they need it .
It won't be pretty if the GOP gets its way .
 

ok doser

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Please cite incidents of the government confiscating guns under Obama. If this had happened, it would have been news .
Obama is NOT a "tyrant" and he's not aiming to impose "communism" on America by confiscating guns .
Conservatives SHOULD however, be VERY afraid of the sinister agenda of the Republican (Repugnican ) party - taking their medicare and social security away . Denying them medical care f they need it .
It won't be pretty if the GOP gets its way .

not bammy - not yet

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