Paris attacks

gcthomas

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What happened in Northern Ireland isn't necessarily a guide to handling every possible situation. And there indeed may be a need to change laws.

I agree.

But at this moment all those involved are either combatants, so Geneva Conventions on handling prisoners applies, or they are criminals, so the standard civil penal code applies. There is nothing in between, and I don't see any legal status changes happening soon - look how well the Guantanamo went with the attempt to have an in-between status for prisoners.
 

GuySmiley

Well-known member
I agree.

But at this moment all those involved are either combatants, so Geneva Conventions on handling prisoners applies, or they are criminals, so the standard civil penal code applies. There is nothing in between, and I don't see any legal status changes happening soon - look how well the Guantanamo went with the attempt to have an in-between status for prisoners.
Combatants without a uniform, or a government that lives by the Geneva Conventions aren't afforded the protections of the Geneva Conventions.
 

chair

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So they are soldiers in combat and not criminals now? You liberals will try anything to pervert the world.

They view themselves as soldiers, and you would do well to pay attention to what is going on in the world, rather than wasting your time attacking "liberals".

The Geneva convention becomes problematic when only one side adheres to them.
 

bybee

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They view themselves as soldiers, and you would do well to pay attention to what is going on in the world, rather than wasting your time attacking "liberals".

The Geneva convention becomes problematic when only one side adheres to them.

The butchering barbarians under the name of ISIS adhere only to their own dogma.
 

chair

Well-known member
Something else to pay attention to: There are many Islamist terror groups, active in different parts of the world. ISIS is notorious, largely because they take videos of their atrocities. The western world is in tune to youtube, so everybody thinks about them, and ignores many other groups- or pretends they are "freedom fighters".
 

gcthomas

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So they are soldiers in combat and not criminals now? You liberals will try anything to pervert the world.
You are so keen to disagree you've forgotten what you wrote that I was replying to. You said that they should be executed regardless of whether they are criminals or PoWs.

Why don't you read your own posts?
 

rocketman

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I agree.



But at this moment all those involved are either combatants, so Geneva Conventions on handling prisoners applies, or they are criminals, so the standard civil penal code applies. There is nothing in between, and I don't see any legal status changes happening soon - look how well the Guantanamo went with the attempt to have an in-between status for prisoners.


Gitmo went just fine until a pathetic liberal ideologue was given the opportunity to undermine it. Personally I would prefer they were all water boarded for the intelligence we can gain, given a military tribunal, and promptly shot or hung just as we treated those guilty at Nuremberg. If the world is not willing to be as brutal as their enemy, they have already lost civilization to these savages.
 

gcthomas

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Gitmo went just fine until a pathetic liberal ideologue was given the opportunity to undermine it. Personally I would prefer they were all water boarded for the intelligence we can gain, given a military tribunal, and promptly shot or hung just as we treated those guilty at Nuremberg. If the world is not willing to be as brutal as their enemy, they have already lost civilization to these savages.

Is it the Christian thing to lower your standards until you are no better than those you demonise?

Pah.
 

Nazaroo

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Speaking of cleansing...is Nazaroo aware of the geography of the area? His plan would leave the Southern half of Israel uninhabitable.


Fully aware.

Gaza must be made uninhabitable for a decent buffer zone.


You can't reclaim ALL the desert. Don't throw good money after bad.

Plenty of good land in Jordan which can be annexed.

Finally, as prophesied,

the barrier to the sea will collapse and the whole Dead Sea region will be filled with
ocean water.


Jerusalem will be a sea-port, and all the land on either side of the Dead sea
that is above sea-level will be fertile and the shore full of fishing villages.
 

chair

Well-known member
Fully aware.

Gaza must be made uninhabitable for a decent buffer zone.


You can't reclaim ALL the desert. Don't throw good money after bad.

Plenty of good land in Jordan which can be annexed.

Finally, as prophesied,

the barrier to the sea will collapse and the whole Dead Sea region will be filled with
ocean water.

Jerusalem will be a sea-port, and all the land on either side of the Dead sea
that is above sea-level will be fertile and the shore full of fishing villages.

I hope you are just pretending to be insane.
 

rocketman

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They view themselves as soldiers, and you would do well to pay attention to what is going on in the world, rather than wasting your time attacking "liberals".



The Geneva convention becomes problematic when only one side adheres to them.


Why not attack liberals? It is the liberal ideology that has allowed this cancer to metastasize. Liberals approach these and other issues under the impression that everyone will respond to reason, liberals are unwilling to make the hard choices required because it is far too messy. Your ideology is a danger to yourself and those you attempt to lead with it. Liberalism/Utopianism is unrealistic and dangerous that is why people attack it, liberalism hinders the solution.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Why not attack liberals? It is the liberal ideology that has allowed this cancer to metastasize. Liberals approach these and other issues under the impression that everyone will respond to reason, liberals are unwilling to make the hard choices required because it is far too messy. Your ideology is a danger to yourself and those you attempt to lead with it. Liberalism/Utopianism is unrealistic and dangerous that is why people attack it, liberalism hinders the solution.

haven't followed this thread, but the liberal Justin Trudeau is planning on bringing over 1000 syrian refugees a day before the end of the year

a whole bunch of them will end up in vancouver and jump the border to come down to california
 

Nazaroo

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I hope you are just pretending to be insane.




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News Notes Water and policy
Pipeline proposal promises new life for Dead Sea

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More than 400 meters below sea level lie the calm waters of the Dead Sea. The saltiest major water body on Earth, the Dead Sea stands between Israel and Jordan and marks an area historically rich and scientifically significant. Its shores are the lowest point of dry land on Earth, and keep getting lower — now shrinking about 1 meter each year. In this region plagued by severe water shortages, scientists and politicians are now trying to come together in a massive effort that would move water from the Red Sea to the Dead Sea.

At the recent World Summit on Sustainable Development in Johannesburg, Israeli and Jordanian officials announced plans to build an $800-million pipeline between the two water bodies — hoping both to boost the receding water level and to desalinate the water for distribution to parched Jordan. Called the “Peace Conduit,” the pipeline will stretch about 320 kilometers north from the Gulf of Aqaba.

Israel and Jordan plan to build an $800-million pipeline between the Red Sea and the Dead Sea. As shown here, the pipeline will stretch 320 kilometers north from the Gulf of Aqaba. The project’s goal is to replenish the receding Dead Sea and to desalinate water to distribute to Jordan. The background true-color satellite image is from NASA/GSFC by Jacques Descloitres of the MODIS Land Rapid Response Team. Image by Mark Shaver.

“In principle, the creation of this pipeline is seductively appealing. It will allow the generation of large amounts of energy, which can be used in desalination, and at the same time it will allow the restoration of the hydrological balance in the Dead Sea,” says Nizar Abu-Jaber, an associate professor of geochemistry at Yarmouk University in Jordan. But the “Red-Dead” pipeline, already decades in the making, will take several years to complete, due in part to lingering scientific questions about how the project may change the Dead Sea dynamics, he says.

“The Mediterranean was the original concept, an idea lying around from 20 to 30 years ago,” says Gerry Friedman, a distinguished professor of geology at Brooklyn College and the Graduate Center of the City University of New York. However, this “Med-Dead” pipeline idea has lost some steam in the political realm over the last decade, and researchers are now largely focusing on the Red-Dead project that has been in consideration since Jordan and Israel signed a peace treaty in 1994. Friedman says the World Summit announce-ment was a way to “test the waters” for this relatively new idea to help the Dead Sea.

The Dead Sea is a terminal lake: water leaves only through evaporation. Water has historically come in mainly from the Jordan River, which flows south into the Dead Sea. “Because of the consumption of freshwater in the drainage basin, very little water reaches the Dead Sea today,” says Ittai Gavrieli, head of the department of geochemistry and environmental geology at the Geological Survey of Israel.

The Jordan River brings in only about 10 percent of what it used to bring in, he explains, because of the damming and diverting of the river itself and its sources by the Israelis and the Jordanians, as well as their Syrian neighbors to the north. “All together, the Jordan River probably brought in more than 1,000 million cubic meters [historically] and today it’s down to about 150,” he says. Also contributing to the water level’s recession is the potash industry that evaporates Dead Sea water for industrial minerals. “Dead Sea brine is pumped to the industrial evaporation ponds in the now-dry Southern Basin of the Dead Sea and flows back as end brine. In this process, they lose about 50 percent of the volume that they pump in,” Gavrieli says.

Despite these problems, the Dead Sea will not die, Gavrieli says. “Without the pipeline, the Dead Sea level will continue to drop; but the lake cannot die out,” he says. In work he and colleagues published in Geology (August, 1998), they report that in 200 to 400 years, the Dead Sea will stabilize at around 100 meters lower than it is today.

Still, this rapid depletion of water in the Dead Sea is causing problems regionally — pushing the shorelines farther and farther away from previously developed areas and, more seriously, creating sinkholes, particularly along the western shore. As the Dead Sea recedes, freshwater can move through layers of subsurface salt, replacing the saltwater and dissolving the underground layers. “With the salts gone, the ground caves in. They sort of look like bomb craters,” says Clifford Voss, a research hydrologist with the U.S. Geological Survey, who has visited the Dead Sea. These sinkholes, he says, are creating major infrastructure problems in the area.

In addition to replenishing the shrinking Dead Sea, the Red-Dead pipeline will meet another urgent need for the region: freshwater. The Red-Dead pipeline would make use of the 400-meter elevation difference between the seas to generate power to desalinate some or all of the water pumped from the Red Sea. “The reject brine, concentrated seawater after desalinization, will be diverted to the Dead Sea and the produced freshwater pumped mainly to Jordan and some to Israel and the Palestinian Authority,” Gavrieli explains.






I suppose you think scientists from all over the world, and the government of Jordan
is also insane.

But no matter.

The water level has actually decreased in recent years due to evaporation:

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But this will be more than compensated by flooding shortly.




Whether or not the project to bring water in via pipeline is feasible,
God is going to speed things up with a little earthquake and some tectonic shifts.

In fact, sea water has been leaking in from the gulf of Aquaba for decades.

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It will be similar to a mud-slide when the thin land barrier to the ocean collapses.

Expect it in your own lifetime, and also the accompanying disaster,
which will be very similar to the flooding of the Mediteranean Basin
through the gap of Gibraltar in ancient times.

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In other words, its already happened once in this very area.




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gcthomas

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I hope you are just pretending to be insane.

He is self parodying - I'm somewhat hopeful that this is all just an act for the perverted satisfaction he gets from trolling, since if it is genuine, I hope he is posting from a padded cell in a secure institution.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
So what happens to the 1.8 million people living in Gaza?

Holocaust, genocide, which word fits your vision?

well, they're all terrorists, so you can't let 'em go


push 'em into egypt and let the egyptians slaughter them :idunno:


nobody cares when it's arabs slaughtering arabs
 
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