Romans through Philemon (Paul's writings) are written to
the Body of Christ. Your opinion, not so good.
Once saved NOT necessarily always saved.
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Romans through Philemon (Paul's writings) are written to
the Body of Christ. Your opinion, not so good.
"Not all of the bible is written to us but all of the bible is written for us." ~ J. Vernon McGee
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Can a person live like the devil and still be saved?
heir
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Tell me what it feels like to spit on the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ in your place and stand there in your self righteousness (Romans 10:3 KJV)? What you need is the righteousness of God upon you! Do you have it?
heir
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heir
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Yes, just not believers in the dispensation of the grace of God! You are in the wrong place in the Bible to see what God is doing today! The Bible says a lot of different things. They can't and aren't all to you! Those of us who have trusted the Lord believing the gospel of Christ "are saved"!
1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV, 1 Corinthians 15:2 KJV, Ephesians 2:4-9 KJV
SaulToPaul 2
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Is someone who has died, been buried, resurrected, and ascended up to heaven secure in their salvation?
One of the two criminals on the cross was imputed righteousness, and he lived like a devil receiving his due reward which was execution.
Even muslims are not having their trespasses go against them. They can still be reconciled to God. Of course they won't, but that is another thread.
heir
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Matthew, Mark, Luke and John...
Matthew 15:24 KJV Romans 15:8 KJV
And since you call yourself one, just how is it that you became a "Christian"?
Not even 'rulz can offer an explanation of the process.
iouae
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Nothing you quoted here guarantees you eternal life.
Sheep have to listen to his voice and follow Him. Those sheep nobody can snatch from Him.
And having the Spirit at His return or death IS a guarantee. But that Spirit can be lost, quenched, or just plain run out like the virgins.
Christ speaks positively and emphatically and optimistically about all making it, but read the fine print verses with "endure to the end", "he that overcommeth" type phrases.
iouae
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When was it finished, this work of Christ? At the foundation of the world? At the cross? When you believed? When you die?
Funny that Paul never considered it a finished work in his lifetime.
Phil 3
12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Funny how Paul entertained the possibility he could become a castaway, yet you don't.
1 Corinthians 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
iouae
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Ouch! I am scared to even ask you to explain away parts of the NT, but please do. Explain how the Gospels and all scripture is not given by inspiration and is profitable for....
I feel sorry for those of you who are not secure in your salvation. It must be fearful to think that you can loose your salvation. I feel sorry that you have no peace. Those of us who have peace believe that he has overcome the world.
John 16:32-33 New Living Translation (NLT)
32 But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when you will be scattered, each one going his own way, leaving me alone. Yet I am not alone because the Father is with me. 33 I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world.”
The biggest tragedy is that you believe that once Christ has given you salvation that there is something stronger that can take it away. How deceived you are.
iouae
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13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
Wick Stick
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For you to ask that question... Either you don't understand salvation, or you are just trolling. Maybe both?
If you aren't a troll, and you'd like to have a civil conversation that doesn't start with backhanded accusations, then change your tone and we can talk.
Jarrod
You are so busy trying to explain away your salvation, why not try to explain your salvation to us?
First of all, this new Jerusalem exists only in the spiritual dimension commonly referred to as heaven.
Secondly, a city is made up of people, in this case people who can't die.
Why tear down all stones, not one upon another, for a temple of new dimensions?
glorydaz
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Tell me what it feels like to see Christ as a revolving door? Tell me what it feels like to believe there is anything that can separate us from the love of God. Those who have been bought and paid for and are sealed with the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption. Satan does so love fear and doubt, and he likes nothing more than to see it being preached. :nono:
Immortality (salvation) is a gift. It's a gift we can refuse if we choose to do so.