Marie Yovanovitch's Role in the Hunter Biden Cover-Up

[Jerry Shugart]

The Geneva Convention is the UN-backed pact enacted during the Cold War that governs the conduct of foreign diplomats in host countries and protects them against retribution. But it strictly mandates that foreign diplomats “have a duty not to interfere in the internal affairs of that State” that hosts them.

About half way through the following speech given by then U.S. Ambassador to the Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch we can see that she clearly violated the the rules of the Geneva Convention in her effort to get rid of the proscecutor investigating Burmisa (the same company where Hunter Biden served as a member of the Board of Directors):

"To ensure the integrity of anticorruption institutions, the Special Anticorruption Prosecutor must be replaced. Nobody who has been recorded coaching suspects on how to avoid corruption charges can be trusted to prosecute those very same cases."

https://ua.usembassy.gov/remarks-by-...ters-founding/

Why would Marie Yovanovitch violate the rules of the Geneva Convention in an effort to have the prosecutor investigating Burisma fired? If you can't figure that out then you have no understanding about what was really happening in the Democrats efforts to cover up the crimes of Joe and Hunter Biden. For more facts about these things click on the following link:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...eory-narrative

 

[ok doser]

it would be nice to see the MSM paying any attention to this

 

[The Barbarian]

The Geneva Convention is the UN-backed pact enacted during the Cold War that governs the conduct of foreign diplomats in host countries and protects them against retribution. But it strictly mandates that foreign diplomats “have a duty not to interfere in the internal affairs of that State” that hosts them.

You mean like telling a nation's leader that unless he announces an investigation against one's political opponents, the expected aid isn't going to be released? If so, one more article of impeachment.

It wasn't just the United States. Many of our European allies also wanted Shokin removed for his corrupt behavior.

Trump and his allies, including his personal lawyer, Rudolph Giuliani, the former mayor of New York, accuse Biden of using his position as vice president and point man on relations with Kyiv in 2016 to help Burisma -- a Ukrainian energy company that was paying Biden's son Hunter, who was on its board of directors -- avoid damage from a criminal investigation.

They assert that Shokin was overseeing an active criminal investigation into Burisma and that Biden at the time told Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko that the United States would withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees unless Shokin was fired.

But Ukrainian prosecutors and anti-corruption activists with knowledge of the matter argue that the timeline of developments in the Burisma case and Shokin's stint as chief prosecutor simply does not fit the narrative being put forward by Trump and his allies.

Moreover, they say that Shokin himself was the biggest obstacle standing in the way of the investigation.
https://www.rferl.org/a/why-was-ukraine-top-prosecutor-fired-viktor-shokin/30181445.html

 

[ok doser]

Oh look Jerry, your troll arrived

what a surprise

 

[ok doser]

You mean like telling a nation's leader that unless he announces an investigation against one's political opponents ...

Joe Biden was in no way Trump's "political opponent" at the time in question - he held no office, he had announced no intention of seeking further office


you're lying

 

[Right Divider]

You mean like telling a nation's leader that unless he announces an investigation against one's political opponents, the expected aid isn't going to be released? If so, one more article of impeachment.

Please provide evidence that such a thing took place.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

You mean like telling a nation's leader that unless he announces an investigation against one's political opponents, the expected aid isn't going to be released? If so, one more article of impeachment.

That is not the same thing as a diplomat of the USA, like Marie Yovanovitch, interfering with the internal affairs of the Ukraine.

There is nothing which forbids Trump asking the President of the Ukraine to investigate corruption in that country to see if he is serious about cleaning up such corruption. And there is absolutely no reason why either Joe or Hunter Biden should be exempt from being investigated just because Joe is trying to be the Democrat's nominee for President.

Tell me why you think that Joe Biden should be exempt since even Obama’s own State Department was so concerned about potential conflicts of interest from Hunter's job at Burisma that they brought it up themselves while prepping Marie Yovanovitch before her confirmation.

You have to be really be dense if you think that there was nothing suspicious about Hunter receiving huge amounts of money from Burisma even though he had absolutely no experience in the energy field. Hunter even admitted that he wouldn't have gotten that job because his last name is Biden.

And then you fault Trump for simply doing his job to see if the new President of Ukraine was serious about cleaning up corruption in the Ukraine! Not only that, the Democrats are trying to have him removed from office for doing his job.

They actually think that Joe Biden should be exempt from being investigated even though they scream out as loud as they can that no one is above the law. They actually mean no one but Joe!

 

[The Barbarian]

Barbarian asks:
You mean like telling a nation's leader that unless he announces an investigation against one's political opponents, the expected aid isn't going to be released? If so, one more article of impeachment.

That is not the same thing as a diplomat of the USA, like Marie Yovanovitch, interfering with the internal affairs of the Ukraine.

Right. It's much, much worse for two reasons:
1. When the president does it, the nation being pressured has little recourse.
2. In Trump's case, it actually happened, while the ambassador was merely implementing stated U.S. policy in Ukraine, which was her job.

There is nothing which forbids Trump asking the President of the Ukraine to investigate corruption in that country to see if he is serious about cleaning up such corruption.

As Fox legal expert Joseph Napolitano remarked:

WASHINGTON – Fox News' senior judicial analyst, Andrew Napolitano, said Thursday that the summary released by the White House of a July 25 phone call between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky demonstrates "both criminal and impeachable behavior" by Trump.

Though the president has said it was a "perfect call" and that the summary exonerates him, Napolitano said in an opinion piece that the call showed that Trump was guilty of violating campaign finance law, bribery and intimidating witnesses.

The former New Jersey judge's opinion made a social media splash because he works for a cable news network that is home to pro-Trump media figures like Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Jeanine Pirro and the hosts of "Fox & Friends." The article repeated several points Napolitano has made on air since the scandal broke.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-impeachable-foxs-napolitano-says/3854146002/

And there is absolutely no reason why either Joe or Hunter Biden should be exempt from being investigated just because Joe is trying to be the Democrat's nominee for President.

It's kind of ironic that Trump's attempt to drum up a scandal against Biden may well be the scandal that destroys his presidency.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

Right. It's much, much worse for two reasons:
1. When the president does it, the nation being pressured has little recourse.

If the nation doesn't clean up their corruption then you are right, they have little recourse.

Of course the Democrats don't care if tax-payer money is wasted because they think that money grows on trees.

2. In Trump's case, it actually happened, while the ambassador was merely implementing stated U.S. policy in Ukraine, which was her job.

A diplomat is not to interfere in the internal affairs of the country of Ukraine but you couldn't care less because you support the party of lawlessness.

 

[The Barbarian]

If the nation doesn't clean up their corruption then you are right, they have little recourse.

We do have recourse. Impeachment and elections (whichever comes first).

Of course the Democrats don't care if tax-payer money is wasted because they think that money grows on trees.

That's a testable claim...

You think Trump is a democrat?

A diplomat is not to interfere in the internal affairs of the country of Ukraine

The main functions of diplomats are: representation and protection of the interests and nationals of the sending State; initiation and facilitation of strategic agreements; treaties and conventions; promotion of information; trade and commerce; technology; and friendly relations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomat

But you couldn't care less because you support Trump and the party of lawlessness.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

We do have recourse. Impeachment and elections (whichever comes first).

Are you so dense that you cannot understand what is written in "bold" here?

The Geneva Convention is the UN-backed pact enacted during the Cold War that governs the conduct of foreign diplomats in host countries and protects them against retribution. But it strictly mandates that foreign diplomats “have a duty not to interfere in the internal affairs of that State” that hosts them.

That is exactly what Marie Yovanovitch did!

Are you actually defending her even though she did her best to get the prosecutor fired who was investigating the firm for which Hunter Biden worked?

You are actually proud of your lawless allies, aren't you?

That tells me a lot about you!

 

[The Barbarian]

Are you so dense that you cannot understand what is written in "bold" here?

The Geneva Convention is the UN-backed pact enacted during the Cold War that governs the conduct of foreign diplomats in host countries and protects them against retribution. But it strictly mandates that foreign diplomats “have a duty not to interfere in the internal affairs of that State” that hosts them.

That is exactly what Gordon Sondland did. But as you learned, that is not what Marie Yovanovitch did. She merely communicated U.S. concerns (which were shared by our European allies.

Are you actually defending her even though she did her best to get the prosecutor fired who was investigating the firm for which Hunter Biden worked?

As you learned earlier, he had completed the investigation before Yovanovitch got involved. I realize you didn't know that at first, but you did shortly thereafter. On the other hand, Trump and his back-channel guys were trying to extort political assistance from Ukraine by holding up aid that had been approved by Congress. As you also learned, even Fox legal expert Judge Napolitano agrees that Trump committed felonies in doing so.

You are actually proud of your lawless allies, aren't you? That tells us a lot about you.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

That is exactly what Gordon Sondland did. But as you learned, that is not what Marie Yovanovitch did. She merely communicated U.S. concerns (which were shared by our European allies.

Once again you attempt to defend the indefensible because she did more than communicate U S Concerns because she clearly attempted to interfere in the eternal affairs of the Ukraine when she said the following:

"To ensure the integrity of anticorruption institutions, the Special Anticorruption Prosecutor must be replaced. Nobody who has been recorded coaching suspects on how to avoid corruption charges can be trusted to prosecute those very same cases."

That is not just communicating U.S. concerns, as you imagine, but instead she was desperate to interfere in the eternal affairs in the Ukraine so that the prosecutor investigating Burisma and Hunter Biden would be fired. And that is exactly what happened, especially after then Vice-President Papa Biden threatened to withhold $1,000,000,000 from the Ukraine unless that prosecutor was fired.

Papa Biden can run but he cannot hide. The Republicans are already investigating him and his son in the Senate and it won't be pretty.

You have a bad case of Trump Delusional Syndrome and if I was you I would seek professional help!

 

[The Barbarian]

Your excuse just collapsed when details of the Justice Department IG were learned...

Trump can run but he cannot hide. The Republicans are suddenly silent about the report; it won't be pretty for them.

You have a bad case of Biden Delusional Syndrome; the report won't support your assumption.

 

[Rusha]

You have a bad case of Biden Delusional Syndrome; the report won't support your assumption.

History will not look kindly on these *presidential* enablers known as the GOP .... the quest for power has corrupted them to the point of no return.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

History will not look kindly on these *presidential* enablers known as the GOP .... the quest for power has corrupted them to the point of no return.

Just wait until the Inspector General releases his investigation into the Obama Justice Department and their FISA warrant and you will be ashamed that you ever defended those crooks. It is due out for release in two weeks.

Then all of the so-called "presidential enablers" will have a good laugh at your expense!

 

[ok doser]

... these *presidential* enablers known as the GOP ....

those who have enabled him to start making America great again?

sorry that disappoints you

 

[The Barbarian]

Just wait until the Inspector General releases his investigation into the Obama Justice Department and their FISA warrant and you will be ashamed that you ever defended those crooks. It is due out for release in two weeks.

I've noticed, in the last few days, republicans have generally stopped talking about that. I think I know why...

Then all of the so-called "presidential enablers" will have a good laugh at your expense!

Funny how things work out, um?

 

[Jerry Shugart]

I've noticed, in the last few days, republicans have generally stopped talking about that. I think I know why...

Why?

 

[The Barbarian]

[h=1]Indicted Giuliani associate implicates top Republican Devin Nunes[/h] A lawyer for an indicted associate of Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani has told CNN that his client is willing to tell Congress about meetings the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee had in Vienna last year with a former Ukrainian prosecutor to discuss digging up dirt on Joe Biden.

The attorney, Joseph A. Bondy, represents Lev Parnas, the recently indicted Soviet-born American who worked with Giuliani to push claims of Democratic corruption in Ukraine.
Bondy said that Parnas was told directly by the former Ukrainian official that he met last year in Vienna with Rep. Devin Nunes.

"Mr. Parnas learned from former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin that Nunes had met with Shokin in Vienna last December," said Bondy.

Shokin was ousted from his position in 2016 after pressure from Western leaders, including then-vice president Biden, over concerns that Shokin was not pursuing corruption cases.

Nunes is one of President Donald Trump's key allies in Congress and has emerged as a staunch defender of the President during the impeachment inquiry, which he has frequently labelled as a "circus." Nunes declined repeated requests for comment.

Bondy tells CNN that his client and Nunes began communicating around the time of the Vienna trip. Parnas says he worked to put Nunes in touch with Ukrainians who could help Nunes dig up dirt on Biden and Democrats in Ukraine, according to Bondy.
https://www.9news.com.au/world/devi...tigation/7fb92cf4-2950-4fb1-be4b-3eeeebe7a141