egyptianmuslim
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I do not understand? What is "avidity"?
read my post again
Man's Nature vs Man's condition"?
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read my post again
Maybe it is the way you write, which is confusing?
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
Yes, we are called to come out of the world.
Only according to the measure of faith God has dealt to us.
Praise the Lord 1Mind1Spirit.
exminister
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egyptianmuslim
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I see it differently. I believe we do have God granted freewill.
In the Garden of Eden story, neither Adam nor Eve sought out Satan. Satan sought out Eve. We have the freedom to be tempted. Adam and Eve clearly demonstrated their inability, on their own, to resist temptation. Hence the need for an Intercessor.
We try to train our children in the way that is moral. Whilst they are under our supervision they do well. But, unless, the lessons we teach them are internalized, they will not do so well once on their own. And we love them no matter what!
That's what I said, the serpent beguiled the woman and Adam hearkened to his wife...they were both decieved
Satan wasn't stupid. He knew Eve couldn't get a story straight. Kinda like what you do.
"Behold I grant unto you freewill"
...not found, neither in the bible nor in life as we know it...it is a strong delusion.
...not found, neither in the bible nor in life as we know it...it is a strong delusion.
Certainly the way in which God created the earth limitations are built in. But He did give man dominion over the earth and that requires decision making.
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
Adam did what his wife suggested.
The reason why was not him being deceived.:think:
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
The earth, Adam's flesh, limited his spirit.
Coupled with the commandment, his faith was proven to be dead.
Whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
The only dominion Adam had over his earth was merely the ability to move his members.
The dominion you refer to begins with the new creation in Christ Jesus, the last Adam.
God has declared the end from the beginning.
:yawn: He taught out of the KJV. :dizzy:
See:
Is the King James Bible the Only Inspired Scripture on Earth Today? Battle Royale XIV
Adam was not deceived, his wife was. HaSatan raped and essentially murdered Eve and in so doing murdered her husband also because they were one flesh. HaSatan was a murderer FROM THE BEGINNING. Rape is to impose your will upon another's regardless of the tactics, in this case, Eve's.
We see the same spirit at work in Peter, when he tried to impose his will on Yeshua, by trying to influence Him not to go to the cross, which had He agreed to it, would have resulted in His death but not His resurrection (because of sin).
It was also at work in David, who imposed his will on Bathsheba and killed her husband. And because the servant is not greater than the master, it works to try to impose it's will on all of us to disobey the SPIRIT (not just the letter), so that spiritual death will follow.
The adversary goes about like a lion (king imposing will) seeing whom it might devour (consumed by death). Death is not just the physical cessation of the body, but a choice of covenant and a state of being from that covenant, while still in the body. Peace
We see the same spirit at work in Peter, when he tried to impose his will on Yeshua, by trying to influence Him not to go to the cross, which had He agreed to it, would have resulted in His death but not His resurrection (because of sin).
It was also at work in David, who imposed his will on Bathsheba and killed her husband. And because the servant is not greater than the master, it works to try to impose it's will on all of us to disobey the SPIRIT (not just the letter), so that spiritual death will follow.
The adversary goes about like a lion (king imposing will) seeing whom it might devour (consumed by death). Death is not just the physical cessation of the body, but a choice of covenant and a state of being from that covenant, while still in the body. Peace
Thank you for your response.
csuguy
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If God were always stepping in and removing desire and hardship from us so that we never risked sinning, then our freewill and sinlessness would be meaningless, as would our love. Only when confronted with hard decisions and choosing, of one's own volition, to do the right thing despite the consequences is one's true character determined. Love is easy if nothing is required of you - but hard when it requires everything. This is why Job was tested as he was - he had to have everything taken from him for his true character and righteousness to be revealed and confirm that he wasn't merely acting righteous because he had been blessed with such prosperity.
Good post. Thanks
keypurr
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Interesting