justify war

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by brother Willi

then PLEASE, justify war using only the words of Jesus


havin trouble?

Nope, better. I have shown that the words of Jesus have nothing to do with the US decision to go to war, nor should they.

 

[brother Willi]

Originally posted by BillyBob

Depends on the situation. War was never the first option, there were countless UN Resolutions and direct ultimatums from the US to Saddam which were all rejected before GW decided to invade Iraq. You cannot tell me that you do not know all this?

Even more appropriate is the history lesson you seem to need concerning the US invasion of Afghanistan. There was this incident called 9-11, perhaps you heard of it????????

justify war using only the words of Jesus

Who knows, but the fact is that we were attacked and Jesus doesn't dictate our foreign policy!

WHO KNOWS???????????

tell me about Jesus
what did he say or do to make you unsure??????????

 

[brother Willi]

Originally posted by BillyBob

Nope, better. I have shown that the words of Jesus have nothing to do with the US decision to go to war, nor should they.

justify war using only the words of Jesus Billy.

you cant, thats why you try to change the topic.

 

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by brother Willi

justify war using only the words of Jesus

I have no need to, the war is justified by the obligation of our Government.

WHO KNOWS???????????

tell me about Jesus
what did he say or do to make you unsure??????????

It doesn't matter, Jesus isn't the President.

 

[Lucky]

Mind if we turn the table and ask you to prove war is wrong, using only the words of Jesus?

 

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by brother Willi

justify war using only the words of Jesus Billy.

you cant, thats why you try to change the topic.

I didn't change the topic. The topic is war. The war we are discussing is being fought by the US Government. No topic change here.

But I've seen you try this tactic before, very lame! :down:

 

[brother Willi]

Originally posted by Lucky

Mind if we turn the table and ask you to prove war is wrong, using only the words of Jesus?

your job, if you choose to is

justify war using only the words of Jesus

 

[Poly]

Originally posted by brother Willi

justify war using only the words of Jesus

Oh get off it already!

Did Jesus say anything about disciplining our children? Well, I guess since nothing about this is in the red letters we should let kids do whatever they please and never correct them if they are wrong.

 

[brother Willi]

Originally posted by BillyBob

I didn't change the topic. The topic is war. The war we are discussing is being fought by the US Government. No topic change here.

But I've seen you try this tactic before, very lame! :down:

honest answer is , Billy cant do it, he cant justify war using only the words of Jesus.
so he changes it to" the president must defend us"

nice try Billy, NO CIGAR.

 

[Poly]

Originally posted by Poly

Oh get off it already!

Did Jesus say anything about disciplining our children? Well, I guess since nothing about this is in the red letters we should let kids do whatever they please and never correct them if they are wrong. I can just hear kids yelling at their parents... "You can't do anything to me. Prove to me using only the red letters that it's ok for you to discipline me".

 

[ShadowMaid]

Now, it's just my opinion, and I know I'm young, but I'd think, that when there's a dude, running at you with a vest full of bombs, and he's being paid to kill you and himself... would he really stop to listen to words?

He might stop after a big gun is pointed at him.... (i.e. :dead: )

 

[brother Willi]

Originally posted by Poly

Oh get off it already!

Did Jesus say anything about disciplining our children? Well, I guess since nothing about this is in the red letters we should let kids do whatever they please and never correct them if they are wrong.

look at his life, look at his words.

what has Jesus taught us???

can you kill the killer, without becoming the killer you kill???

 

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by brother Willi

honest answer is , Billy cant do it, he cant justify war using only the words of Jesus.
so he changes it to" the president must defend us"

nice try Billy, NO CIGAR.

Nope, you are drowning and are flayling at straws.

Let me ask you this, BW, which war is it that you are talking about?

 

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by brother Willi

look at his life, look at his words.

what has Jesus taught us???

can you kill the killer, without becoming the killer you kill???

I'd rather be the killer than the killed. That's a no-brainer. :dunce:

 

[Poly]

Originally posted by brother Willi

look at his life, look at his words.

what has Jesus taught us???

can you kill the killer, without becoming the killer you kill???

bW thinks it's wrong for us to discipline our kids since we can't prove that it should be done using only the words Jesus used.

 

[brother Willi]

Originally posted by ShadowMaid

Now, it's just my opinion, and I know I'm young, but I'd think, that when there's a dude, running at you with a vest full of bombs, and he's being paid to kill you and himself... would he really stop to listen to words?

He might stop after a big gun is pointed at him.... (i.e. :dead: )

you are correct.

so, can you show me Jesus saying to kill?
look at his life, look at his words.

your life belongs to God.

is death but a step on our path?
YEP.
why fear it?

better you should live with God, or with man?



WHAT DID JESUS TEACH?????

 

[brother Willi]

Originally posted by BillyBob

Nope, you are drowning and are flayling at straws.

Let me ask you this, BW, which war is it that you are talking about?

ANY WAR

 

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by brother Willi

ANY WAR

Ahhh, well then I have allready addressed that. :bannana:

 

[elected4ever]

Jesus said give unto Cesar what is Cesar's and give unto God what is God"s . That makes us obligated to both, our government and to God. Sense I am not obligated to the law of God, having been set free from the law then my obligation to my government is the only law that I an obliged to honor.

E4E

 

[brother Willi]

Originally posted by Poly

bW thinks it's wrong for us to discipline our kids since we can't prove that it should be done using only the words Jesus used.

i teach my kids with love, not with fear.

that is what Jesus taught.

you are free to smack em if you like, do you really think Jesus would???