ECT Is theology a science?
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Any science is basically a system of approaching and or of studying out a thing.
Even as used as a translation in the 1611 KJV back around time of the Reformation, the word "science" carries that sense.
Daniel 1:4 Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans.
1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
Even as used as a translation in the 1611 KJV back around time of the Reformation, the word "science" carries that sense.
Daniel 1:4 Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans.
1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
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Wick Stick
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Actually, I believe they call Theology "the Queen of Sciences."
https://www.gotquestions.org/theology-queen-sciences.html
https://www.gotquestions.org/theology-queen-sciences.html
Interplanner
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You will be able to make some progress with the word of God no matter what your background, however, after a while, you should be asking yourself: would I read the LORD OF THE RINGS as though it had the background of THE SOUND OF MUSIC? No.
After a while, you should be trying to reconstruct things as accurately as possible. As you may have seen, one of those things, for ex., is what exactly was going on when the disciples burst about Christ's crucifixion being re-announced in the Confession and Transfiguration scenes. How did they forget it? What were their backgrounds? Did Christ say nothing about his death until these scenes?
This is practical because the Confession scene includes the well-known lines 'unless you deny yourself and take up your cross...' and we need to apply that as it was. Some Christians do such denial about otherwise normal enjoyable things and come across dull and dreary. That is not what was meant!
Still further on, if you want to study the original languages and grammar, it can become technical and very rewarding. In that sense, you can call it a science. Some people have done so and become IMpractical which is also a mistake. But there is certainly a place for being scientific about the original vocabulary and grammar.
After a while, you should be trying to reconstruct things as accurately as possible. As you may have seen, one of those things, for ex., is what exactly was going on when the disciples burst about Christ's crucifixion being re-announced in the Confession and Transfiguration scenes. How did they forget it? What were their backgrounds? Did Christ say nothing about his death until these scenes?
This is practical because the Confession scene includes the well-known lines 'unless you deny yourself and take up your cross...' and we need to apply that as it was. Some Christians do such denial about otherwise normal enjoyable things and come across dull and dreary. That is not what was meant!
Still further on, if you want to study the original languages and grammar, it can become technical and very rewarding. In that sense, you can call it a science. Some people have done so and become IMpractical which is also a mistake. But there is certainly a place for being scientific about the original vocabulary and grammar.
SaulToPaul 2
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What good is all of that if you don't believe what you read? (Like you)
SaulToPaul 2
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Nah, you two are misfiring.
Yeah, okay, mr. skirt the question on the specific process by which you end up at your skewed explanation of what Rom. 1:11's "established" is referring to. :chuckle:
Gonna have spend an afternoon with ya down at the fishin hole where Opie used to throw that rock
SaulToPaul 2
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Yeah, okay, mr. skirt the question on the specific process by which you end up at your skewed explanation of what Rom. 1:11's "established" is referring to. :chuckle:
Gonna have spend an afternoon with ya down at the fishin hole where Opie used to throw that rock
Where is one finally stable?
Interplanner
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But God demonstrates things all the time in those 5 senses: 'So that you may know I have power on earth to forgive sins...I say to you, get up and walk.' Mk 2.
Interplanner
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God does compliment people who have seen enough 'proof' but he does not evade proof. That would be especially true on cases where the basic truth of the Gospel was being defended.
When it comes to background, it is slightly different. A person can get some benefit out of 'if any man is thirsty, let him come to me and drink.' But if that expression has background, and if the audience was mainly raised in Judaism, it has another 'flavor' to pay attention to. He did call the teaching of the leaders 'dry, empty cisterns.' Those were natural or carved water collection spots in a land where water was scarce. In place of that bad shelf-life situation, he told people they would have rivers (plural) coming OUT of them. Quite an overwhelming comparison!
When it comes to background, it is slightly different. A person can get some benefit out of 'if any man is thirsty, let him come to me and drink.' But if that expression has background, and if the audience was mainly raised in Judaism, it has another 'flavor' to pay attention to. He did call the teaching of the leaders 'dry, empty cisterns.' Those were natural or carved water collection spots in a land where water was scarce. In place of that bad shelf-life situation, he told people they would have rivers (plural) coming OUT of them. Quite an overwhelming comparison!
SaulToPaul 2
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Lifted from a commentary
Interplanner
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btw, in current usage, 'carnal knowledge' usually means sex. There is legit physical knowledge and proof that is not carnal--sensual--'sarka' (Greek). There are a few overlaps of sarka and carnality, but not many.