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Is Name calling and mocking ever warranted from a Christian?
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Zakath
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I think sodomite is too broad a term to be offensive in the way you intend. Since the definition of sodomy depends entirely on the state in which someone lives...
For instance, here in Virginia we're a bit old fashioned and all oral sexual activity is considered sodomy, under the law (Virginia Statute 18.2-361). It is considered a felony and punishable by up to five years in state prison. Thus there are many "sodomites" who are heterosexuals here in Virginia.
Of course your "liberal" state of Indiana repealed their sodomy law in 1977. :chuckle:
For instance, here in Virginia we're a bit old fashioned and all oral sexual activity is considered sodomy, under the law (Virginia Statute 18.2-361). It is considered a felony and punishable by up to five years in state prison. Thus there are many "sodomites" who are heterosexuals here in Virginia.
Of course your "liberal" state of Indiana repealed their sodomy law in 1977. :chuckle:
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Free-Agent Smith
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Would that be the normal fag reply?
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SOTK
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Re: Is Name calling and mocking ever warranted from a Christian?
Yes. However, sometimes "calling people names" or "mocking them" is more of stating a truth or making an observation than calling them a name. I don't see where calling a spade a spade is a problem. Sometimes telling someone the truth is more important than sparing them hurt feelings.
I'm glad that I've had certain Christians in my life who have loved me enough to tell me where I've been wrong. Sometimes I was called names. It sure got my attention!
SOTK
Yes. However, sometimes "calling people names" or "mocking them" is more of stating a truth or making an observation than calling them a name. I don't see where calling a spade a spade is a problem. Sometimes telling someone the truth is more important than sparing them hurt feelings.
I'm glad that I've had certain Christians in my life who have loved me enough to tell me where I've been wrong. Sometimes I was called names. It sure got my attention!
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I voted it depends on the circumstances. I think if the Bible calls them something, then it's okay. According to the Bible, Zakath is a fool. And any other atheist.
Tye Porter
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Berean Todd
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I didn't read the whole thread, so maybe someone allready got it, but the best mocking in the Bible was done by Elijah in his contest with the priests of the false gods.
1 Kings 18:27 It came about at noon, that Elijah mocked them and said, "Call out with a loud voice, for he is a god; either he is occupied or gone aside, or is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and needs to be awakened."
1 Kings 18:27 It came about at noon, that Elijah mocked them and said, "Call out with a loud voice, for he is a god; either he is occupied or gone aside, or is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and needs to be awakened."
servent101
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Jesus seemed to hold the most harsh words for the Pharisees and the Religious leaders of the time - the instruction he gave to the people was not in any way belittling them, or harsh. He took people where they were at, and was able to bring about some improvement - Jesus did not spell it out like the Church today does - He was telling people and showing people to seek the Truth - as you would hidden treasure.
For a sinner - Jesus would not call them names - the harsh instruction He gave was to the religious leaders, I think Jesus would still use the same harshness in dealing with the Christian Church - which in general encourages people to Preach in a way that offends people - Jesus would have hard words for those people - those who offend people who are trapped in their sin - unable to help - and by their lives they confuse a Spirit filled walk with strict fundamental, literalist orthodox teachings. We have our Pharisees today in abundance in the orthodox church – am I the only one who notices?
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Servent101
For a sinner - Jesus would not call them names - the harsh instruction He gave was to the religious leaders, I think Jesus would still use the same harshness in dealing with the Christian Church - which in general encourages people to Preach in a way that offends people - Jesus would have hard words for those people - those who offend people who are trapped in their sin - unable to help - and by their lives they confuse a Spirit filled walk with strict fundamental, literalist orthodox teachings. We have our Pharisees today in abundance in the orthodox church – am I the only one who notices?
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Servent101
I also notice. This has been my stance in many conversations with Jefferson. Jesus called out the self-righteous. The vile people we read about Jesus ministering to all loved Him, because He loved them. Those people knew they needed to be freed from their sinful lives. However, if there are people who don't believe they need God, we are to show them that they do. We must present the Truth to them in a way they will accept. If we alienate them, we have failed.
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servent101
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Lighthouse -
Yes - and in other words
And if someone is to be offended - they already have heard - many times - what is the hope for them? - they still have hope - it is just a matter of not making the matter worse - and learning how to preach to people/praying for people/ seeing the best in people and trying to bring that out. - Some people can and are called to preach persuasively - but they are far and few between - too many Christians just go out and make the problem worse - I know when I try - I often make the matter worse - and when I meet people who have been battered and bruised by Bible Thumping Bashing Adrenalin addicted junkies - it is impossible to share anything with them - so I try to call the Bible Thumping - Bashing Adrenalin addicts on to the mat - and am not successful there either - so back to the drawing board - live a life consecrated to Christ - the prayers of a righteous man will accomplish much – Confess one’s sin and God will cleanse one of all unrighteousness.
With Christ's Love
Servent101
Yes - and in other words
And if someone is to be offended - they already have heard - many times - what is the hope for them? - they still have hope - it is just a matter of not making the matter worse - and learning how to preach to people/praying for people/ seeing the best in people and trying to bring that out. - Some people can and are called to preach persuasively - but they are far and few between - too many Christians just go out and make the problem worse - I know when I try - I often make the matter worse - and when I meet people who have been battered and bruised by Bible Thumping Bashing Adrenalin addicted junkies - it is impossible to share anything with them - so I try to call the Bible Thumping - Bashing Adrenalin addicts on to the mat - and am not successful there either - so back to the drawing board - live a life consecrated to Christ - the prayers of a righteous man will accomplish much – Confess one’s sin and God will cleanse one of all unrighteousness.
With Christ's Love
Servent101