Elect before Faith and unto Faith !
Elect before Faith and unto Faith !
Some in false religion give the lie that the Elect of God dont become so until after they believe, but that is false. There are scriptures that indicate this, titles they[the elect] have before they believe: One such title is God's Sheep or Sheep, or Chosen and these are one and the same ! And they are Sheep before they believe and while they are in a lost state ! This will be shown to be true by a few scriptures; Jn 10:16,26
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
26But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Now in Vs 16 they are Sheep that Christ has, but are yet to hear His Voice in the Gospel, they canr become belivers until they hear His voice, because Faith cometh by hearing Rom 10:17
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
So faith comes by hearing [what is told], and what is heard comes by the preaching [of the message that came from the lips] of Christ (the Messiah Himself).AMP
Because they are Sheep they are given hearing ears Prov 20:12
The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the Lord hath made even both of them.
The hearing of Rom 10:17 is Christ giving Faith or Creating Faith, its the greek word akoé:
hearing, faculty of hearing, ear; report, rumor.
properly, hearing; used of inner (spiritual) hearing that goes with receiving faith from God (Ro 10:17), i.e. spiritual hearing (discerning God's voice; see also Gal 3:2,5, Gk text).
Also in Lk 15:4-7
4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.
7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
Clearly the Sheep was a Sheep/Elect while being in a Lost state or condition ! Even before Repentance
Jesus also said once this Matt 15:24
24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Does not this statement indicate that they are Sheep/Elect while Lost ? Yes it does !
Even while Sheep in a Lost state they still belong to Christ their Shepherd, so Christ says of His Lost Sheep, other Sheep I have, and they shall hear His Voice Jn 10:16 ! So they are Elect before Faith !