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Praus

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I am very happy and blessed to be here, I live in a very remote community and have little opportunity for non- denominational fellowship. I came into the Kingdom late in life, but have been very blessed by my Lord and savior Jesus the Christ.

I certainly took the hard road as I grew up in a pagan family with little opportunity to be exposed to the word of God and even less understanding of its concepts.

I can remember seeing writing on wall saying Jesus saves but not understanding what it means. Finally, I saw Jesus saves then after it, Moses invests at least it made sense to me then. I certainly was not ready for saving then; it was not until years later when I started looking at my life analytically that I realized something was missing in my life. But how to find it, I had little respect for the church at this time after questionable experiences with some of its members.

Almost instinctively, I knew it was a spiritual problem, so I went on a journey to discover God. I must say he was quick to help me on my path and to reveal Himself in many ways. At the end of my journey, I had no doubt of His existence and my responsibility to make a choice, for or against Him. It was like standing on the edge of a knife, to fall to one side would have meant denying his existence, lying to myself for the rest of my life, probably alcoholism would help, I thought.

In the end, I choose My Lord Jesus, then the real teaching began, He had to show me His unconditional Love, something I had never experienced in the world.

This was a Love I had never comprehended or imagined, or even hoped for. He brought a book into my life at the very beginning to help me to not fall into denominational-ism, this is a Christian classic based on lectures given by Henry Drummond the book is called The Greatest Thing in the World.

The first part is an expounding on the love chapter 1 Cor 13, this taught me to view every thing through the magnified glass of Gods Love.

It was very instrumental in keeping me out of the cults that seamed to flock to me at the beginning.

He also brought the works of William Barclay into my life this helped me to understand the importance of the Greek and historical thought.

This made understanding Gods word so much clearer for me, Don't we serve a magnificent God! a truly Loving God, it saddens me to see his name soiled by so many that profess to be His slaves, bought with the precious blood of his Son Jesus.

I have to accept that its just signs of the times we live in, and in spite of it, He brings out his people.

I am happy to be one of His people and gladly offer you, a cup of water in the name of Jesus. :coffee:

May Gods example of Love fill you all to completeness.
 

elohiym

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Welcome, Praus. Thank you for your testimony.

I'm not familiar with those authors, so please forgive me for asking a question to better assess your theological stance on Christ.

Do you believe that Christ is God?
 

bybee

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Welcome!

Welcome!

I am very happy and blessed to be here, I live in a very remote community and have little opportunity for non- denominational fellowship. I came into the Kingdom late in life, but have been very blessed by my Lord and savior Jesus the Christ.

I certainly took the hard road as I grew up in a pagan family with little opportunity to be exposed to the word of God and even less understanding of its concepts.

I can remember seeing writing on wall saying Jesus saves but not understanding what it means. Finally, I saw Jesus saves then after it, Moses invests at least it made sense to me then. I certainly was not ready for saving then; it was not until years later when I started looking at my life analytically that I realized something was missing in my life. But how to find it, I had little respect for the church at this time after questionable experiences with some of its members.

Almost instinctively, I knew it was a spiritual problem, so I went on a journey to discover God. I must say he was quick to help me on my path and to reveal Himself in many ways. At the end of my journey, I had no doubt of His existence and my responsibility to make a choice, for or against Him. It was like standing on the edge of a knife, to fall to one side would have meant denying his existence, lying to myself for the rest of my life, probably alcoholism would help, I thought.

In the end, I choose My Lord Jesus, then the real teaching began, He had to show me His unconditional Love, something I had never experienced in the world.

This was a Love I had never comprehended or imagined, or even hoped for. He brought a book into my life at the very beginning to help me to not fall into denominational-ism, this is a Christian classic based on lectures given by Henry Drummond the book is called The Greatest Thing in the World.

The first part is an expounding on the love chapter 1 Cor 13, this taught me to view every thing through the magnified glass of Gods Love.

It was very instrumental in keeping me out of the cults that seamed to flock to me at the beginning.

He also brought the works of William Barclay into my life this helped me to understand the importance of the Greek and historical thought.

This made understanding Gods word so much clearer for me, Don't we serve a magnificent God! a truly Loving God, it saddens me to see his name soiled by so many that profess to be His slaves, bought with the precious blood of his Son Jesus.

I have to accept that its just signs of the times we live in, and in spite of it, He brings out his people.

I am happy to be one of His people and gladly offer you, a cup of water in the name of Jesus. :coffee:

May Gods example of Love fill you all to completeness.

It was nice to read a post filled with God's love.
You will find wonderful people here.
Please don't be put off by some of the things you might encounter here. Because you shall surely be edified by those who are so knowledgeble and willing to share with the rest of us.
Blessings, bybee
 

Nang

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Welcome Praus.

May the Lord continue to send you encouraging writings from good theologians.

Barclay held Universalistic views, so hopefully you have been given discernment in that regard!

Nang
 

Praus

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Welcome, Praus. Thank you for your testimony.

I'm not familiar with those authors, so please forgive me for asking a question to better assess your theological stance on Christ.

Do you believe that Christ is God?

I personally was raised with only one tradition, and it was based on the Nativity display that my father use to drag out every Christmas to put on top of the TV.
That tradition was that the three wise men were there the day that Jesus was born.
I probably had been studying the Bible for over three years before I realized that it was wrong, and that the wise men showed up at Jesus home, when he was a child less than two years of age.
So to answer your Question, I do not believe the scriptures to teach that Jesus is God almighty but that he is Gods Son although today all authority in heaven and earth is in his hands.

Many people use John 1:1 to back up the claim that Jesus is God
I feel a better translation of this can be found in The Translator's New Testament put out by the British and Foreign Bible Society

John 1:1
When everything began the Word already existed. The Word was with God and shared his nature. He was with God in the beginning. All things came into being through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into being.
(TNT)

One day he will hand it over to his father

1 Cor 15:24-28
24 then {comes} the end, when He delivers up the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.
25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.
26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death.
27 For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.
28 And when all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, that God may be all in all.
(NAS)

I tend to stick to scripture and not tradition
So if you want what I truly believe I will go no further than the Apostle Paul


1 Cor 8:4-6
4 Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that there is no such thing as an idol in the world, and that there is no God but one.
5 For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords,
6 yet for us there is {but} one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we {exist} for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we {exist} through Him.
(NAS)
I tend not to be caught up in divisive issues that the members of Christ have been debating about for 1800 years or so.

Today and every day Jesus is the lord of my life, he intercedes for me to the father
Without Jesus, without his sacrifice for all mankind, I would not know of Gods great love for all his children and me.
Is Jesus my God yes, is he God almighty, is he the father I would have to say no.
And if anyone could read Paul without the blindness of tradition they might agree, but in my experience most people will believe tradition over scripture.
 
You might want to consider something about ‘forums’?
Do you think that God doesn’t notice believers are just using the Internet as an excuse to ‘avoid’ Having To Physically Go Into All The World and do what Jesus commands [Mark 16:15-18]? Ergo, most believers aren’t joining forums to serve God or experience fellowship in Christ but rather they just want to boast and start arguments and insult everyone who doesn’t agree with their limited understanding of “God” or even worse and perhaps more likely; they were tempted into a forum by the devil to distract them From God?

i.e. Satan doesn’t want Christians going out In Person into the real world and spreading the gospel and edifying and healing and baptizing etc. and the Internet provides the ideal diversion to excuse believers from actually talking with real people In Person, knocking on people’s doors In Person and laying hands on people etc.? Thus, “forums” created to entice idle lazy disobedient believers to cower behind Alias usernames spewing biblical quotes from ignorance instead of declaring their Real names and going into the Real world and serving God as they Really should be doing? So the devil is quite happy to lure naïve believers into cyberspace, away from the real world and thus keeping them from Doing Those Things in service to God “in person”? And as long as people are distracted on the Internet arguing and bible-bashing each other, the devil doesn’t have to lift a finger to prevent “those believers” from obeying Mark 16:15-18 because they are already neatly trapped in the “Internet” and they may never learn how to truly Walk in Christ? In other words, their faith is so weak that they couldn’t preach anything to anyone In Person even if they wanted to and they probably never even spoke one prayer to God asking him to bless them with the ‘power’ to go out and interact with people Face-to-Face and obey what Mark 16:15-18 commands and in the end, that neglect could very well cost them their souls?

Some of these forums may also have been created by believers who do not have a ‘leadership role’ in their own physical church or maybe don’t belong to any church? So the “Internet” affords them the opportunity to ‘practice at’ being a cyber-pastor over their own flock of Anonymous cyber-lambs/wolves but they don’t have to face the inevitability of being questioned about what they’re doing and believing and saying because when the going gets tough, they simply remove the topics they don’t like and/or ban the people they cannot face. Likewise, many of the forum members are probably in the same boat and without the ‘power’ to do what Mark 16:15-18 says but a forum also enables ‘them’ to pretend they are wise church elders so confidently quoting scripture while arguing uncontrollably with anonymous strangers who might very well be wolves, for all They know or care to find out? ;)

Too scary for you to believe that might be what’s happening? Are you offended that your forum might not be serving any divine purpose whatsoever and that You might actually have to re-think some things about your faith and biblical interpretation? Shocked that You might need some spiritual correcting or you may actually be lost again? Well I hope you are shocked or at least concerned because that might mean you actually Do Care To Know if you’re believing and doing the right thing in Jesus’ name and that you do want to Listen and Learn and grow in Christ like the rest of us foolish wretches? And maybe you will now pray for God to show you what your true good works might be and bless you to properly serve his will, not Yours? Rather than anonymously prancing around in a forum trying to impress someone with your biblical knowledge because you’re afraid and powerless to face the real world in His name? Or like believers who segregate themselves in forums by denomination, as if to advertise that they might somehow be better Christians than non-denominational followers or that Adventists might somehow be better Christians than Protestants or Catholics might somehow be better Christians than Anglicans or Christadelphians might somehow be better Christians than Lutherans or Baptists might somehow be better Christians than Evangelicals etc. etc. etc.? But there it is! We now have thousands of believers that have migrated to the Internet wagging their uncontrollable tongues (James 3:8) in the vacuum of cyberspace and pretending to be warriors for God but in reality, they are merely deluding themselves? And for all You know, the devil’s minions also created the forum You are babbling in and the yolk is on you? ;) Don’t believe it? If you can’t, then you are ignorant because I’ve witnessed so-called Christian forums where the moderators are actually atheist or worse perhaps and so the joke was indeed on “those believers who participated”.

But what do I know? Anyway, kudos to those responsible for this forum if this topic actually survived their screening process thus allowing members to read it and God to do the moderating? Notwithstanding, I do question the advent of forums and the motives of those who create them since, if for no other reason, that the ‘nature’ of a forum does not promote love and patience but rather conflict, hatred and impatience. So if anyone thinks I’m here looking for forum buddies, friends or pals, let me be perfectly clear. God willing, I’m compelled to be here mainly to WARN those believers who may have been lured here by the evil one and/or inadvertently; about the ‘danger’ of forums and the Internet! Period.

And whether or not the creators of these forums had good intentions, I have witnessed far too much evil in each and every forum I participated in. Without exception, Each and Every so-called Christian forum proved to be little more than a chaotic hostile vehicle for judgmental, hateful, ignorant administrators and moderators trying to play God instead of ‘facing God’s truth’ in obedience to Christ and most members responded in kind because most people weren’t there to blamelessly, harmlessly debate Christianity and perhaps learn something and grow in Him. Quite the contrary, they were there to fight and argue their “limited understanding of God” at any cost and when the Mods/Admins couldn’t support their opinions and/or felt threatened to perhaps being exposed as false brethren, they just removed the topics and banned anyone who didn’t kneel to their rhetoric and man-made rules. Which means they aren’t ‘forums’ in the first place because people weren’t allowed to freely and honestly debate or discuss anything. ;)

So I guess we’ll soon find out if this forum operates similarly and if believers here put God’s Laws first instead of man-contrived-forum-rules? As well, I won’t be posting any further comments nor responding publically to anyone’s threads in this forum either because I’m not here to debate anything with anyone especially in an almost certain ungodly atmosphere like ‘this’ and so as to then perhaps be accused of lending credence to any otherwise legitimate Internet platforms let alone “so-called Christian forums”? I’ve already learned my lesson God willing, about the evil of the “Internet” and those human resources who would perpetrate evil there. Indeed, I’m genuinely repulsed now just ‘joining’ any of these forums in order to “warn” those whom God may wish to be warned? I may not even have any divine purpose for being on the Internet myself but in the event that just one person is properly corrected or saved by doing so, then it was absolutely worth the effort. Hallelujah!

Paul
 
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