ECT DID JESUS TEACH SOLA SCRIPTURA?
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everready
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Near as i can figure this is how purgatory became dogma, written by someone that thought he knew how to get things done.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Joseph Goebbels
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/goebbelslie.html
everready
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Joseph Goebbels
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/goebbelslie.html
everready
Tradition of the Church not application of the Bible.
moparguy
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Well, that's one way to avoid being shown to be wrong; say you've sufficiently answered something that you've not sufficiently answered.
What's next? ... Instead of providing a meaningful answer, whine about how the other person is asking for something they shouldn't?
Maybe we could actually have a meaningful discussion, instead of gamesmanship?
You claimed that you weren't asking for a specific verse or verses that explicitly teach sola scriptura; and yet here you are, doing exactly that; as you have done before.
The verses, taken together, of absolute unavoidable necessity teach sola scriptura.
Because obviously, if one verse says the bible is sufficient for equipping the man of God for EVERY good work, and in other verses it says that all other sources of knowledge are NOT and have been made foolish...
You can't add those two together. why? ... because this rabbit has pancakes on it's head!
Cruciform
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Post #501.
Cruciform
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Both.
Cruciform
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Post #497
everready
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Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
But then the papacy doesn't pay any attention to Gods word their too busy changing it
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
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moparguy
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I guess asking cruciform to THINK is too much, either that or maybe he actually believes it's impossible to read multiple verses and understand what they mean when combined... ?
... Or maybe it's just old fashioned running away from a lost cause.
oatmeal
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Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Notice he did not say "every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God and all RC writings and Luther's writings and the apocrypha and whatever Billy Graham and Oral Roberts wrote"
Every word that proceeds from the mouth of God
When you know every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God as well as God knows every word that proceeds out of His mouth, then would you author more scripture?
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Notice he did not say "every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God and all RC writings and Luther's writings and the apocrypha and whatever Billy Graham and Oral Roberts wrote"
Every word that proceeds from the mouth of God
When you know every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God as well as God knows every word that proceeds out of His mouth, then would you author more scripture?
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Post #497
Cruciform
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Yes, "every word"---NOT "every written word." God's word (message) comes in both written and unwritten forms (2 Thess. 2:15; 1 Pet. 1:23-25).
Gaudium de veritate,
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moparguy
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Repetition of a falsehood does not make it truth.
God says the bible fully equips for all good works in the 2 timothy passage.
God says all other knowledge outside of the bible is foolishness and vain and wrong in the 1 Cor 1 and other passages on the topic.
You are, for whatever false reason, refusing to allow God to be anything better than a schizophrenic.
Cruciform
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Pot, meet Kettle.
God does not, however, say that ONLY the Bible equips for all good works. In fact, see James 1:4---is patience, then, "all we need"? So no, 2 Tim. 3:16 in no way teaches sola scriptura. :nono:
In fact, God says that the Church's unwritten Tradition is to be followed as the very word of God.
Back to Post #497.
Gaudium de veritate,
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