ECT A further MAD error 2
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Nang
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Do you even know the definition of "atonement" or "redemption?"
"Imputed Righteousness?"
How can any sinner be "holy" and "blameless" in the eyes of God, without being justified, forgiven by the blood of Christ, resurrected in Christ, and sanctified unto salvation?
C'mon . . . :nono:
So you do believe the gentles were not saved either--
Act 15:7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.
Act 15:8 So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us,
Act 15:9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
Act 15:10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Act 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they."
Yes it is, you condescending charlatan, as your "Do you not believe Almighty God as being Covenantal,?" is a self incriminating,deceitful, slanderous question, as it implies that I/we do not believe that God made/makes covenants, so stuff your false dichotomy, and satanic charges, demon.
Why do you fear not answering this question: Are you stll beating your husband Jimmie?
See how that works?
heir
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Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
We can always count on you, LALaw, to chip in with an irrelevant stumper.
Doom
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Of course. Do you know how to read the text without pouring your preconceived philosophy into it?
If they are in Christ, then they are holy and blameless, justified, forgiven, sanctified.
That verse is simple. How in the world do you make such a mess of it? It doesn't come close to saying what you think it says. It is talking about what God chose (to be) for those who are in Christ, not that He chose who is in Christ.
heir
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Acts 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
When did Peter believe that "through the grace of the Lord" he and they "shall be saved"?
Notice:
1 Peter 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
1 Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
1 Peter 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
1 Peter 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
It's at the second coming! Which is in one accord with Acts 3:19-21 KJV
Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Acts 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Acts 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
heir
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Romans 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Read on--
NKJV
Act 3:22 For Moses truly said to the fathers, 'THE LORD YOUR GOD WILL RAISE UP FOR YOU A PROPHET LIKE ME FROM YOUR BRETHREN. HIM YOU SHALL HEAR IN ALL THINGS, WHATEVER HE SAYS TO YOU.
Act 3:23 AND IT SHALL BE THAT EVERY SOUL WHO WILL NOT HEAR THAT PROPHET SHALL BE UTTERLY DESTROYED FROM AMONG THE PEOPLE.'
Act 3:24 Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also foretold these days.
Act 3:25 You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'AND IN YOUR SEED ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE EARTH SHALL BE BLESSED.'
Act 3:26 To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities."
Nang
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Uh, all you had to do was answer whether you believe that God is a Covenantal God, if that is what you believe.
If you believe so, why are you making such a big fuss?
Nang
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Nang
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You deny that the Father chose who His Son would represent and redeem in His incarnation, life, death, and resurrection?
Really?
You deny the truth revealed by Paul in Ephesians 1:3-12?
"Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world . . ." Ephesians 1:3a
I really do not know how anyone can deny these words from God.
Doom
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We've already been through this in this same thread, and NOW you are just being the same old dishonest witch, who knows full well not only what I have said about this, but also what God has said about this.
I am convinced that you are just a troll, who does not believe in God one single bit. You are just allowed on this site to stir up trouble, lie, slander, and mislead others, all to the benefit of bringing people back here to debate you.
Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
Who is the "us" being blessed with every spiritual blessing? Those who are "in Christ.
I know, you reject that believers are in Christ. However, that is what Paul says, and you hate Paul, and the God who gave him the gospel.
Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Those "in Him" (in Christ = us) were chosen before the foundation of the world THAT WE (those in Christ) SHOULD BE holy and blameless before Him.
You left off the rest of the verse because it PROVES what a manipulative witch you are.
Paul plainly states that God chose that all who are in Christ (not you) will be holy and without blame.
You godless pervert.
Are you trying to convince anyone, that one in Christ should speak like that to another?
and that is the manner of one holy and without blame?
LA
Doom
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She sure does!!
heir
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God's enemies (which again goes against your Supralapsarianism)!
Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
There just might be a few of those around these parts?