The Trinity

jaybird · Dec 9, 2017

JudgeRightly said:
Unfortunately not many are aware of these two verses, even though they're probably the two most important verses for understanding the entire Bible.

Mid-Acts dispensationalism explains this thoroughly and completely.

You should check out The Plot, by Pastor Bob Enyart. He goes through exactly what you said you don't get and makes it very clear.

I'm not familiar with these... Then again I'm still learning, so.

does "Mid-Acts dispensationalism" mean we can obey and disobey when we want.

with respect if someone interprets a scripture and that interpretation contradicts other scripture, most likely its not being interpreted correctly.

IMO, and i am not the final authority, James for sure and most likely Peter and John (the three elders) stayed in Jerusalem to lead the church, their message from that church was to all nations, just as it always was.

Mark 11:17
And he was teaching them and saying to them, “Is it not written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer for all the nations’? But you have made it a den of robbers.”

glorydaz · Dec 9, 2017

popsthebuilder said:
I deny nothing, but understand that first born is still created regardless of if all else was made through that first creation or not.

Then you understand nothing. Don't believe me....look it up.

The word “firstborn” in the Greek is “prototokos,” and is a term of pre-eminence, and means “first begetter” or “original bringer forth”.

popsthebuilder · Dec 9, 2017

glorydaz said:
Then you understand nothing. Don't believe me....look it up.

The word “firstborn” in the Greek is “prototokos,” and is a term of pre-eminence, and means “first begetter” or “original bringer forth”.

Oh.....and begotten?

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glorydaz · Dec 9, 2017

popsthebuilder said:
Oh.....and begotten?

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What context are you referring to?

SabathMoon · Dec 9, 2017

I can't help but notice how this mistake rarely gets corrected. colossian 1:15 ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ does not mean "for by him, it means "how in him". "How" as a conditional because here.

Strangely, the YLT, RSV and NIV translate the preposition correctly. Why perpetuate an error like this?

glorydaz · Dec 9, 2017

SabathMoon said:
I can't help but notice how this mistake rarely gets corrected. colossian 1:15 ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ does not mean "for by him, it means "how in him". "How" as a conditional because here.

Strangely, the YLT, RSV and NIV translate the preposition correctly. Why perpetuate an error like this?

Strangely, the translations you like aren't the ones that say what the authorized version does. Of course there are other verses that make it clear. Including the most hated (by every cult) text of all. - John 1:1-3, 1:14

SabathMoon · Dec 9, 2017

glorydaz said:
Strangely, the translations you like aren't the ones that say what the authorized version does. Of course there are other verses that make it clear. Including the most hated (by every cult) text of all. - John 1:1-3, 1:14

Why continue a mistake? What is done with Colossian 1:16 looks intentionally deceptive. I bet that it is.

glorydaz · Dec 9, 2017

SabathMoon said:
Why continue a mistake? What is done with Colossian 1:16 looks intentionally deceptive. I bet that it is.

You claim it's a mistake. That doesn't make you right.

I'm not sure why you think you can pick and choose translations when Greek is not your language.

popsthebuilder · Dec 9, 2017

glorydaz said:
What context are you referring to?

So first fruits means first of a set, and most definitely not first cause.

From what I can tell, begotten refers to the unique or first of a kind or set as well, and still not first cause.

Phone is bout dead though. Please do reply; it will remind me to look into it further. It is interesting.

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SabathMoon · Dec 9, 2017

glorydaz said:
You claim it's a mistake. That doesn't make you right.

I'm not sure why you think you can pick and choose translations when Greek is not your language.

I understand more Koine Greek than you know.

God's Truth · Dec 9, 2017

Bright Raven said:
You're confused.

No, you are confused. Won't you even try to understand what I said?

Mark 4:24 "Consider carefully what you hear," he continued. "With the measure you use, it will be measured to you--and even more.

God's Truth · Dec 9, 2017

glorydaz said:
Did you say man is composed of body and spirit?

That is right.

God's Truth · Dec 9, 2017

JudgeRightly said:
YOU FAIL.

The whole Bible flows together perfectly.

You chop and cut it up and it is pathetic.

glorydaz · Dec 9, 2017

God's Truth said:
That is right.

So what is your tizzy fit about?

Or, do you deny Jesus Christ is truly a man like unto us.

glorydaz · Dec 9, 2017

SabathMoon said:
I understand more Koine Greek than you know.

And I understand more Koine Greek than you know. :banana:

glorydaz · Dec 9, 2017

popsthebuilder said:
So first fruits means first of a set, and most definitely not first cause.

From what I can tell, begotten refers to the unique or first of a kind or set as well, and still not first cause.

Phone is bout dead though. Please do reply; it will remind me to look into it further. It is interesting.

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You need to stop. You're proving nothing except that you don't know what you're talking about.

SabathMoon · Dec 9, 2017

glorydaz said:
And I understand more Koine Greek than you know. :banana:

What does en in greek mean then?

God's Truth · Dec 9, 2017

glorydaz said:
So what is your tizzy fit about?

Or, do you deny Jesus Christ is truly a man like unto us.

We both understand that humans have flesh and spirit.

So then, when the Bible says that we have access to God by only one Spirit you leave out Jesus!

You say Jesus' Spirit is not the Holy Spirit come as a man's.

The Bible says Jesus is the Spirit.

We ARE our spirit.

Jesus is the Spirit.

popsthebuilder · Dec 9, 2017

glorydaz said:
You need to stop. You're proving nothing except that you don't know what you're talking about.

No; Actually more the usual; showing you to be unable to support your claims.

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glorydaz · Dec 9, 2017

SabathMoon said:
What does en in greek mean then?

It depends. It can mean through.

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