Black Culture

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I was shocked to find this article outside of some white nationalist writer or knuckle dragging neanderthal. Everyone who is honest knows that there is a black culture that is distinct from the American culture at large. People are afraid to discuss it for fear or being called racist. Anyone from a major news organization that published an article such as this would quickly lose their job. The culture has nothing to do with skin color except that the culture evolved from slaves who ended up having insular communities either by force or through self compliance. Insularity produces distinct culture IMO. My adopted family is black African....not African American and their culture is vastly different and superior to the latter in my IMO. Yes ,some cultures are better than others and their is nothing bigoted about that except where you use that knowledge to discriminate or otherwise harm others from those cultures. The following article is not exhaustive in its examination of black culture as it's focus is on the train of inhibition and the traits that flow from it. It would be really helpful if there were more such articles on the other traits of black culture.


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The biggest difference between whites and blacks
Many people think that the biggest difference between the races is intelligence. But differences between the races go beyond that; whites with IQ's of 85 simply don't act like blacks.

The biggest difference between the races seems to be, in many ways, their levels of inhibition. Inhibitions have many roots: worry about how one will be perceived, one's performance, one's social standing, and the future. But the net effect of all those worries is to make us hesitant, install a sort of inner censor, which keeps us from acting on our initial urges.

Alcohol can dull those worries, while also inducing a mild euphoria. I've always thought that whites tend to act a little like Asians who've had a couple of drinks, and blacks tend to act a little like whites who've had a couple of drinks. This is a tendency, obviously, not a blanket rule. But, on average, when it comes to how uninhibitedly people act, it tends to be true.

Think of some of the traits and behaviors you associate more with blacks than with whites: spontaneously breaking out into a dance, end zone celebrations, making lascivious comments on the street, high rates of violence, an emphatic manner of speaking, performing well on stage, and being warmer and friendlier when so inclined. Put it all together and you'll see a pattern: the common thread seems to be a lack of inhibition.

If you've ever watched one of those Sunday morning cable shows which show services at various churches, it's hard not to be struck by how differently the parishioners at a black church behave. They'll cry out, "Amen!" and "Praise the Lord!" with complete abandon, and no self-consciousness whatsoever. Some parishioners spontaneously break out into dance. There are white churches where people handle rattlesnakes and speak in tongues; but those are rarities. And there are certainly black churchgoers who act with more decorum. But, on average, there is a striking racial difference.

The way the black pastors themselves speak is also telling. Their manner of delivery is generally far more forceful, far more emphatic, and far less inhibited. They are far likelier to work up a sweat during a sermon than a white pastor is.

What goes on in church is, in microcosm, what happens in society at large.

Manner of speaking

To accurately transcribe black speech you'd often have to italicize every third or fourth word. Think of the way Al Sharpton speaks, investing all sorts of words with extra, portentous meaning (which they may or may not be able to sustain). There is no sense of shyness, or feeling abashed.

White people-type concerns -- like worrying that their voices will crack, or fretting too much about how they're coming across -- rarely seem to enter their minds.

Stage fright

This may be why there are proportionately more good black comedians. There are plenty of whites who are funny, but few of them are uninhibited enough to get up on a stage and be relaxed to deliver their riffs in front of a large audience without being crippled by self-doubt. Call it shyness, or stage fright, or worry about the reception they going to get. All of those things have an inhibiting effect, which hampers performance.

Richard Pryor, (the young) Eddy Murphy, Chris Rock, and Dave Chappelle were all comedic geniuses, with great material. But what made them great performers wasn't just their material, it was their ability to be relaxed enough on stage to allow for perfect delivery of that material. Humor does seem to be correlated with intelligence, but blacks have always been able to punch above their weight in that regard. Part of the answer to that has to do with lack of inhibition.

The lack of inhibition may also be partly why there are proportionally more successful black singers. Part of singing ability is obviously voice, and also pitch. But getting up on a stage and passionately singing your heart out also takes a certain lack of inhibition.

Body language

Blacks also tend to have more expressive body language. While speaking, they will often punctuate or emphasize their statements with a craning of the neck or exaggerated expressions. And laughter often involves their entire body, jumping around and waving their arms with glee. White laughter may involve convulsing, but it is rarely accompanied by much limb movement.

Clutch performances

This lack of self-doubt and neurosis also translates to better performance on the athletic field. There are significant physical differences between the races that account for blacks outperforming in sports requiring speed and jumping ability. But the subject here is not racial differences in physique, but clutch performance -- whether or not an athlete is at his best when the pressure is on. There simply seem to be fewer blacks who choke. Again, this is not a blanket rule; there are plenty of exceptions on both sides. But it seems to be less a part of black nature to worry and obsess as much. Thus, fewer nerves to deal with when the big moment arrives.

One of the more obvious examples of this is Usain Bolt. He clowns around in the starting blocks, even at the World Championships and Olympics, up until right before the race. Then he's all business for ten or twenty seconds. Then, after his race is over, it's time to joke and dance again. There simply are no white athletes who give off that sort of vibe.

Blacks and whites tend to have different styles of victory celebration. The most obvious example of this are the end zone dances by blacks, who are uninhibited in their ebullience. There are whites who imitate such celebrations; but that's definitely the whites adopting black culture, and not the other way around. A certain style of physical preening seems to come more naturally to blacks.

Boasting

Blacks also tend to be more uninhibited in their egotism. Muhammad Ali was the originator of the line "I am the greatest of all-time!" Since him, a host of black athletes have made similar statements. Think of how black and white athletes act when interviewed after a win. Blacks are more likely to talk about how great they are, whereas whites are far more likely to thank their coaches, or praise their teammates or competitors. This, by the way, doesn't mean whites are more genuinely humble; they're just more likely to say what they think they're supposed to say, rather than exult.

There are certainly white egomaniacs. But blacks seem to have more Kanye Wests and Jaden Smiths per capita than whites have Donald Trumps.

Chattiness

Blacks are rarely shy about talking to strangers. (That briefly famous Hollaback video was unwitting proof of that.) But even apart from men who try to hit on women, blacks tend to be more chatty, even with strangers. When asking someone I don't know for directions, I've often found that whites will react with fear, or at least a little defensiveness, at first; blacks rarely do.

Wherever there is a crowd of blacks, the noise level is usually higher. I've heard that both white and Hispanic inmates will tell you that any prison area where blacks predominate is always noisier, with more shrieking, chattering, raucous laughter, and loud music. In movie theaters, blacks will talk while the movie is playing, sometimes even directing their comments to the characters onscreen.

Money

Blacks are more uninhibited with money. You may have heard the expression "black rich," the definition of which is: to have come into a windfall which is shortly to be spent. Blacks who come into money are far more likely to go out and buy flashy cars, a flashy house, flashy clothes, and flashy bling. This has something to do with why over half of NFL players are bankrupt within two years of leaving the league.

(In all fairness, that also has something to do with young black professional athletes being more likely to have a lot of poor relatives to whom they will be generous -- in a spontaneous sort of way.)

In keeping with their more celebratory nature, blacks are also more likely to see anytime as good for a party. We even saw it with President Obama throwing all those celebrity-filled parties in the White House during his first term. Or, look at all of the lavish vacations the Obamas take.

Carpe diem

Whites tend to live in the future; as Voltaire said, "We never live; we are always in the expectation of living." Horace said, "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero," which translates as, "Seize the day, put very little trust in tomorrow." (The expression is usually shortened to just "Carpe Diem.") Blacks are more likely to actually live by that philosophy.

Ethnic groups which evolved in colder climates had to think in terms of making it through a long, cold winter. Putting little trust in tomorrow would have had fatal consequences for Stone Age northern Europeans, or northern Asians.

Promiscuity

Blacks tend more towards promiscuity, which is in keeping with their general lack of inhibition. They generally lose their virginity at an earlier age, and have a much higher illegitimacy rate. Again, the reasons for these things are complex, and include, among other things, higher testosterone levels. But both statistics are what you'd expect given the difference in inhibition.

I remember watching Dennis Rodman once on the Howard Stern Show, back when it was televised in the late 90's. Stern told Rodman to go over and feel up Robin Quivers, his assistant. When Rodman did so, the camera focused on his crotch and it was apparent that he was getting an erection. The lack of inhibition necessary to start getting turned on while on national TV is stunning.

Violence

Another outgrowth of both higher testosterone levels and lower inhibitions is more violence. The rates for blacks in all four major categories of violent crime -- murder, assault and battery, rape, and armed robbery -- are all roughly eight to ten times higher than the comparable rates for whites. The case can be made that armed robbery is a crime driven by poverty, and there is some truth to that. But committing rape is not a function of poverty, it's an indication of lack of impulse control.

There's also a difference in the types of murders the races commit. A black is more likely to commit an impulsive, unplanned killing involving a firearm. A white is more likely, say, to slowly poison his or her spouse to death. (One type of murder is a function of lack of impulse control, the other of evil.)

This is why blacks account for fewer than half of all death penalty convictions even though they commit over half the homicides in this country: premeditated murder carries a stiffer penalty.

Criminals, but not necessarily sociopaths

I'm often asked, is such and such a black criminal a sociopath? I sometimes shrug and say, well, no, not really -- he's just black. His crime may be bad, but at the same time it's not as if he has all the other sociopathic traits that go along with the impulsiveness -- the false emotionality, pathological lying, manipulativeness, destructiveness, disloyalty, bitterness, envy, and hatred. He's just...uninhibited.

People have asked me if Mike Tyson is a sociopath. On the surface, he would seem a likely candidate: he's violent, has gotten into frequent trouble, and has seemed at times to be out of control. But as I explained here, Tyson is more noble savage than scheming conniver. He has few brakes on his personality, which is basically just one big primal scream. But he has none of the other characteristics of a sociopath, in fact these days is painfully honest about himself, which is basically the opposite of sociopathy.

This, of course, is not to say there aren't black sociopaths. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are two prominent examples. But, in general, the kind of wanton lack of inhibition which typically indicates sociopathy in a white person often does not indicate the same set of despicable characteristics for a black.

Mobs

This blog has noted before that white mobs are usually fueled by alcohol, whereas blacks don't need to be drunk to riot. Expressing displeasure with arson, looting, turning over cars, and throwing rocks at the police are usually the acts of people who, one way or another, are without inhibition. White civil disobedience is often chemically driven; the black variety seems more opportunistic (think power outages, hurricanes, or perceived miscarriages of justice).

It always seems that, whatever the black percentage of a local population, a disproportionate number of them will be milling about on the street, joking with each other, panhandling, hitting on women, brazenly smoking grass, etc. The lack of a sense of purpose doesn't seem to worry any of these men. Nor do they seem particularly concerned about the impression they are creating.

Warmth

Being uninhibited can also mean less artifice. I've always had the impression that on those occasions when blacks act warmly toward me, their friendliness is more genuine. With whites, you never know what they're really thinking: most whites will generally just say whatever it is they think they're supposed to say at the moment. And I often end up with the impression that what they were really thinking was entirely different.

This may surprise some given what I've said elsewhere in this post, but for that reason, I've often found blacks -- once it's established that they're friendly -- at that level to be better company than whites. Whites are far more likely to put on false (socially acceptable) faces; their friendliness is often a matter of social convention rather than goodwill. It's not real warmth, merely good manners. With blacks, it's actually goodwill. They are uninhibited in the way they like people, too.

Of course, if people don't fulfill their expected social roles, a civilization won't work. But the price for that is, most people you meet will simply be playing a role: friendly coworker, wise elder, vivacious housewife, polite student. And you often have no idea what's lurking behind the facade. With blacks, I've found there's usually less of a facade.

Compliments

One area where lack of inhibition is downright endearing is when it comes to giving compliments. As I explained here, blacks give far more effusive -- and meaningful -- compliments than whites do. White guys are always afraid of appearing gay, so will rarely compliment another guy on his looks, or build, or voice, or attractiveness to women. Instead, they will restrict themselves to compliments about one's performance on an exam, or one's team spirit, or other innocuous things that most of us couldn't care less about. Black guys feel no such qualms, and so will deliver the type of compliment you'll remember.

Likewise, white women are often concerned that their flattery will be misconstrued as invitation, so usually refrain from heartfelt compliments, at least to men; black women tend to exhibit more enthusiasm.

If you're receiving a compliment, uninhibitedly is definitely how you want it delivered.

How blacks feel about whites

It's hard to blame blacks for thinking of whites as phony. Especially since few whites feel comfortable enough around blacks to say what's really on their minds anyway. (Not that you can blame whites for that, given the current climate.)

It's also hard to blame blacks for thinking of whites as being stiff and boring. The best analogy there is how you (whites) feel about Asians: you know they're smart, and hard-working, and generally won't cause trouble. But, let's face it, they're not a lot of fun to hang out with, and sometimes it almost seems as if they all have the same personality. Well, blacks generally think of whites the same way.

Of course, blacks' feelings are more complicated than that. Imagine that Asian-Americans used to own your ancestors, and even after they freed them they had two separate sets of laws regarding them and you, with whites as second class citizens. Now, imagine that you're constantly reminded of this by the media, and constantly told that whatever failings whites show vis-à-vis Asians is due to Asian racism toward you. Now, combine all that with the paragraph above and you get a more complete picture of how blacks feel about whites.

Most people -- black and white alike -- hold wiggers in contempt; trying to appear what one is not usually evokes that response. But exactly what it is about blacks that the wiggers find so appealing? It seems to be in large part that blacks represent a freer, more spontaneous, less inhibited way of being. This is instinctively appealing for young people who've been brought up in a more restrictive, regimented environment. (At some level or other, don't we all want to let our passions flow more freely?)

Conclusion

Anyway, the point of this post is that many of the behaviors that whites associate with blacks -- both good and bad -- are all of a piece. And what connects all of those behaviors is lack of inhibition.

You may occasionally wonder why we're called a multicultural society. Every American has access to the same television shows, the same movies, the same newspapers, and are governed by the same laws and politicians. We speak the same language and go to the same schools and play the same sports. We're multiracial, yes, but multicultural? Only to the extent this post has just described: the gap between black and white "culture," really, is mostly just the difference between black and white personality -- which is just another way of saying, nature.
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I think the article is more or less accurate, though incomplete. There's certain factors not included, and placing 'black and white' where there is actually a shade of gray.

Other than that, though, it's politically incorrect reality that nobody wants to acknowledge :rolleyes:
 

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Only to the extent this post has just described: the gap between black and white "culture," really, is mostly just the difference between black and white personality -- which is just another way of saying, nature....author


This portion is what I do not agree with. Nature is beyond your control. It's not nature, it's culture. With the awesome piece he put together showing evidence for a distinct black culture and references to slavery and discriminatory laws as it's cause, I'm surprised he came to the wrong conclusion.

If a group of people starts in a completely different environment socially than the majority of people in their nation and live in social isolation from the majority for 400 years, the result is a distinct culture that sets them apart from the majority even if they share the same skin color.

If africa was composed of Caucasians and were carried into America as slaves, their current state today would be exactly the same.
 

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I think the article is more or less accurate, though incomplete. There's certain factors not included, and placing 'black and white' where there is actually a shade of gray.

Other than that, though, it's politically incorrect reality that nobody wants to acknowledge :rolleyes:

This article spoke to the majority of cases. It could not speak to every exception as that would be a very lengthy article indeed.
 

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I marvel how racists like CS always use a disclaimer before posting their white supremacist drivel:

"My adopted family is black African...."

Of course CS is using the Alt Right lie that Europeans made America great, not the truth that it was people who strongly embraced Jude-Christian doctrine that made it great, something that Donald Trump and his Alt Right movement want nothing to do with.
 

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I marvel how racists like CS always use a disclaimer before posting their white supremacist drivel:

"My adopted family is black African...."

Of course CS is using the Alt Right lie that Europeans made America great, not the truth that it was people who strongly embraced Jude-Christian doctrine that made it great, something that Donald Trump and his Alt Right movement want nothing to do with.

Explain what is racist about me. I'm not going anywhere until you do coward. I'm waiting for you .
 

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Explain what is racist about me. I'm not going anywhere until you do coward. I'm waiting for you .

Does this mean that you'll finally engage me in debate?

The author of your article, John Craig, has skinhead written all over him.
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Virtually everyone who knows John finds him completely tactless and insufferably opinionated. He sees himself as refreshingly honest. That said, this blog is still an excellent way to kill time while putting off work. If you're a newcomer, you might find browsing through the older posts an amusing waste of time as well.
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But since that is my opinion, I'll move onto what the major problem with his article is:

Lumping people whose skin color is black (or white) into groups and not giving individuals credit for their beliefs, in fact you did so in the OP:

Everyone who is honest knows that there is a black culture that is distinct from the American culture at large.
 

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Does this mean that you'll finally engage me in debate?

The author of your article, John Craig, has skinhead written all over him.
Me+3.jpg

Virtually everyone who knows John finds him completely tactless and insufferably opinionated. He sees himself as refreshingly honest. That said, this blog is still an excellent way to kill time while putting off work. If you're a newcomer, you might find browsing through the older posts an amusing waste of time as well.
https://www.blogger.com/profile/08729625146043379286

But since that is my opinion, I'll move onto what the major problem with his article is:

Lumping people whose skin color is black (or white) into groups and not giving individuals credit for their beliefs.

His subject matter is black culture . Do you deny there is such a culture? He is not denying individuals credit for their beliefs. If you discuss culture, by necessity, you concentrate on large groups of people and don't get bogged down in individual cases.

Yes, every individual is responsible for his own beliefs and behaviors. What you are ignoring is the fact that culture has a very strong effect on an individual to the extent that most of the individuals beliefs and actions are a direct result of the culture he grew up in. There are individuals who fight the larger culture they grew up in and find themselves to be outcasts within that culture. In the black culture, they are called uncle Tom's.

The author may or may not be a skin head but he is dead on accurate in his assessments. Every honest person can see what he is talking about . What a person decides to do with that knowledge determines if he is a racist or not. If a person denies the facts above and he is white, it means he is afraid of what it means because he has been taught to believe that to acknowledge such is to be racist.
 

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Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
...I'll move onto what the major problem with his article is: Lumping people whose skin color is black (or white) into groups and not giving individuals credit for their beliefs.

His subject matter is black culture . Do you deny there is such a culture?

I'll acknowledge that the secular humanist movement has been very successful in dividing the races here in America. Your Alt-Right movement is part of that secular humanist movement.


He is not denying individuals credit for their beliefs. If you discuss culture, by necessity, you concentrate on large groups of people and don't get bogged down in individual cases.

That's exactly how racists operate, they take individualism out of the equation and give generalizations.


Yes, every individual is responsible for his own beliefs and behaviors. What you are ignoring is the fact that culture has a very strong effect on an individual to the extent that most of the individuals beliefs and actions are a direct result of the culture he grew up in. There are individuals who fight the larger culture they grew up in and find themselves to be outcasts within that culture. In the black culture, they are called uncle Tom's.

Are you saying that this supposed "Black Culture" is racist?

The author may or may not be a skin head but he is dead on accurate in his assessments. Every honest person can see what he is talking about . What a person decides to do with that knowledge determines if he is a racist or not. If a person denies the facts above and he is white, it means he is afraid of what it means because he has been taught to believe that to acknowledge such is to be racist.

Did the author give a solution to the problem of racial tension here in this country?
 

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I marvel how racists like CS always use a disclaimer before posting their white supremacist drivel:

"My adopted family is black African...."

Of course CS is using the Alt Right lie that Europeans made America great, not the truth that it was people who strongly embraced Jude-Christian doctrine that made it great, something that Donald Trump and his Alt Right movement want nothing to do with.

Well, it's certainly not like you to use white supremacist crap is it aCW?

*cough* creativity movement *cough*
 

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Well, it's certainly not like you to use white supremacist crap is it aCW?

*cough* creativity movement *cough*

While this forum has more than it's fair share of racists, unfortunately for you I'm not one of them.

Now if you would like to discuss how the Alt Right and you both adore Planned Parenthood because it's founder Margaret Sanger spoke at a KKK rally* and because Planned Parenthood disproportionately murders black babies, I'll gladly do so.

*While Sanger spoke at a KKK rally and afterwards received a dozen or more invitations from like minded groups, this picture is photoshopped.
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theophilus

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I marvel how racists like CS always use a disclaimer before posting their white supremacist drivel:

"My adopted family is black African...."

Of course CS is using the Alt Right lie that Europeans made America great, not the truth that it was people who strongly embraced Jude-Christian doctrine that made it great, something that Donald Trump and his Alt Right movement want nothing to do with.

Why do you call Climate Sanity a racist?

He has said many things on these boards but nothing about racism.

???
 

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We live in a world where you have to prove you are not racist to not be called racist. And if you harbor anything contrary to the liberal agenda, you are the entire spectrum of hate- racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, anon anon.

It's at a point where it's starting not to work anymore and the media has become desperate along with these liberal hypocrites. Their horns will get louder and their whistles sharper, but they'll start to dull out once they realize people stopped caring.
 

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Personally"

I don't give a hoot about black culture, white culture schmature culture or any other……My parents came here fron Ireland and despite their poor education made a living and raised 6 freckled face, blond hair, imps. Mom and dad sent us to Catholic grammar schools and hi Schools———-we learned about our Irish heritage, British brutality, indigent servants etc.but that past was not the issue——getting ahead WAS.

But both mom and dad were Americans first, never heard about their miseries in Ireland, never heard about how hard it was here—-they plugged along and God bless them not one of the six kids turned out to be hoodlums, well I might be an exception , sort of…

Victimology is a powerful motivator——-both ways.

You're a Catholic, then?
 

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Why do you call Climate Sanity a racist?

He has said many things on these boards but nothing about racism.

???

Did the opening sentence of his OP not give it away?

I was shocked to find this article outside of some white nationalist writer or knuckle dragging neanderthal. Everyone who is honest knows that there is a black culture that is distinct from the American culture at large.

i.e. a white nationalist could have written the same article.

And then there's this term: "American culture".

Feel free to weigh in and explain what "American culture" is and why Blacks don't fit into it.
 
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