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genuineoriginal

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Yes but on what days of the second month were the very first 6 days the Manna was collected?
It doesn't matter, does it.
The week is still 7 days long and the days of the week have no relationship with the days of the month.
The new moon that starts a month can be on any of the seven days of the week and every day of every month will end up on every one of the seven days of the week over the years.
And Sabbaths are on days 8, 15, 22 & 29 each lunar month.
No. Some months will have the Sabbath on days 1, 8, 15, 22, and 29 on some years, like is currently happening with our current month of Nisan, 5778 and will happen again in Nisan 5779 next year.
But the year after that Nisan, 5780 will have the Sabbaths on days 3, 10, 17, and 24.
The next month coming up this year, Iyyar, 5778, will have the Sabbaths on days 6, 13, 20, and 27.
The Sabbath falls on the same day of every week: the Seventh day.
The Sabbath does not fall on the same days of every month.
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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It doesn't matter, does it.
The week is still 7 days long and the days of the week have no relationship with the days of the month.
The new moon that starts a month can be on any of the seven days of the week and every day of every month will end up on every one of the seven days of the week over the years.

No. Some months will have the Sabbath on days 1, 8, 15, 22, and 29 on some years, like is currently happening with our current month of Nisan, 5778 and will happen again in Nisan 5779 next year.
But the year after that Nisan, 5780 will have the Sabbaths on days 3, 10, 17, and 24.
The next month coming up this year, Iyyar, 5778, will have the Sabbaths on days 6, 13, 20, and 27.

You missed it again. :)
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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the sixteenth of the second month the seventeenth of the second month the eighteenth of the second month the nineteenth of the second month the twentieth of the second month the twenty-first of the second month

CORRECT! Congratulations Jacob you are the first person to correctly identify that the first week of collecting the Manna occurred on the 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th & 21st of the second month after leaving Egypt.

Q2: Now we know the 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th & 21st of the second month were the days on which the Manna was first collected, on which day on the second month did God say the Sabbath was on? The answer is also found in Exodus 16 here:

http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?129091-TOL-treasure-hunt&p=5202584&viewfull=1#post5202584
 
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patrick jane

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CORRECT! Congratulations you are the first person to correctly identify that the first week of collecting the Manna occurred on the 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th & 21st of the second month after leaving Egypt.

Q2: If the 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th & 21st of the second month were the days on which the Manna was collected, on which days on the second month was the Sabbaths on?
I already knew all that. I was waiting for you guys to get it.
 

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Genesis 2:3


(3) And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Exodus 20:8

(8) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

King James Version
Change Bible versions


"Sanctified" in Genesis 2:3 and "holy" in Exodus 20:8 are the same word in Hebrew though in different tenses. In Genesis 2, God makes the seventh day holy; in Exodus 20, He commands us to keep holy what He has already made holy. A holy God is required to make holy time, and He made no time holy other than His Sabbaths. God can make man holy, but man cannot confer holiness to the degree God does.

Any other day of worship has a mere manmade holiness and is not holy as God's Sabbaths are holy. The Sabbath, then, is worthy of respect, deference, even devotion not given to other periods of time. It is set apart for sacred use because it derives from God.

The underlying implication of the usage of "holy" is difference. The verbal root literally means "to cut," "to cut out," "to separate from," or it can imply "to make a cut above," thus "to make special."

A holy thing is an object that is different from that to which it is compared. In this case, the other six days are common and are given to the use and pursuit of the common, ordinary activities of life. Practically, it means that when the Sabbath arrives, we should stop doing and avoid the mundane things that make or promote turning the Sabbath into an ordinary day.


Exodus 3:1-5
provides a clear illustration of what the word "holy" implies:
Now Moses . . . came to Horeb, the mountain of God. And the Angel of the LORD appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush. So he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, but the bush was not consumed. Then Moses said, "I will now turn aside and see this great sight, why the bush does not burn." So when the LORD saw that he turned aside to look, God called to him from the midst of the bush and said, "Moses, Moses!" And he said, "Here I am." Then He said, "Do not draw near this place. Take your sandals off your feet, for the place where you stand is holy ground."

The principle shown here is what makes the Sabbath holy, different. Because God was present, Moses had to treat the ground differently, with a respect or a deference that he would not give to ordinary ground. For the called of God, this difference, this holiness, is a spiritual thing; it is not physically discerned.


Notice that, even though Moses was aware that there was something unusual about what He was observing, God had to tell him that he stood on holy ground. It is a spiritual state that cannot be physically discerned. As for the Sabbath, God puts His presence into the day for the sake of His people and His spiritual creation.


Consider the scenario Amos 3:3 presents: "Can two walk together, unless they are agreed?" If we want to be in God's presence in this special way and in agreement with Him, no other day will do. God has an appointment with us to meet with Him on a specific day, on Sabbath time.
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It is time, different from other time, just as an appointment time with a dentist is different from other time in one's life, as well as from another person's scheduled time.

— John W. Ritenbaugh​

To learn more, see:

The Fourth Commandment



Related Topics:
Agreement
Appointment with God
Burning Bush
Distinguishing between Sacred and Profane
Fourth Commandment
Holiness
Holy
Keeping Sabbath Holy
Profane/Holy Distinction
Profaning the Sabbath
Remember the Sabbath
Sabbath
Sabbath as Appointment
Sabbath as Holy Time
Sabbath as Spiritual Creation
Sabbath Keeping
Sabbath, Keeping Holy
Sacred/Profane Distinction
Set Apart
Setting Apart for Special Use
The Fourth Commandment
Walking as a Metaphor for Agreement
 

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Genesis 2:3


(3) And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Exodus 20:8

(8) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

King James Version
Change Bible versions


"Sanctified" in Genesis 2:3 and "holy" in Exodus 20:8 are the same word in Hebrew though in different tenses. In Genesis 2, God makes the seventh day holy; in Exodus 20, He commands us to keep holy what He has already made holy. A holy God is required to make holy time, and He made no time holy other than His Sabbaths. God can make man holy, but man cannot confer holiness to the degree God does.

Any other day of worship has a mere manmade holiness and is not holy as God's Sabbaths are holy. The Sabbath, then, is worthy of respect, deference, even devotion not given to other periods of time. It is set apart for sacred use because it derives from God.

The underlying implication of the usage of "holy" is difference. The verbal root literally means "to cut," "to cut out," "to separate from," or it can imply "to make a cut above," thus "to make special."

A holy thing is an object that is different from that to which it is compared. In this case, the other six days are common and are given to the use and pursuit of the common, ordinary activities of life. Practically, it means that when the Sabbath arrives, we should stop doing and avoid the mundane things that make or promote turning the Sabbath into an ordinary day.


Exodus 3:1-5
provides a clear illustration of what the word "holy" implies:
Now Moses . . . came to Horeb, the mountain of God. And the Angel of the LORD appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush. So he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, but the bush was not consumed. Then Moses said, "I will now turn aside and see this great sight, why the bush does not burn." So when the LORD saw that he turned aside to look, God called to him from the midst of the bush and said, "Moses, Moses!" And he said, "Here I am." Then He said, "Do not draw near this place. Take your sandals off your feet, for the place where you stand is holy ground."

The principle shown here is what makes the Sabbath holy, different. Because God was present, Moses had to treat the ground differently, with a respect or a deference that he would not give to ordinary ground. For the called of God, this difference, this holiness, is a spiritual thing; it is not physically discerned.


Notice that, even though Moses was aware that there was something unusual about what He was observing, God had to tell him that he stood on holy ground. It is a spiritual state that cannot be physically discerned. As for the Sabbath, God puts His presence into the day for the sake of His people and His spiritual creation.


Consider the scenario Amos 3:3 presents: "Can two walk together, unless they are agreed?" If we want to be in God's presence in this special way and in agreement with Him, no other day will do. God has an appointment with us to meet with Him on a specific day, on Sabbath time.
+
It is time, different from other time, just as an appointment time with a dentist is different from other time in one's life, as well as from another person's scheduled time.

— John W. Ritenbaugh​

To learn more, see:

The Fourth Commandment



Related Topics:
Agreement
Appointment with God
Burning Bush
Distinguishing between Sacred and Profane
Fourth Commandment
Holiness
Holy
Keeping Sabbath Holy
Profane/Holy Distinction
Profaning the Sabbath
Remember the Sabbath
Sabbath
Sabbath as Appointment
Sabbath as Holy Time
Sabbath as Spiritual Creation
Sabbath Keeping
Sabbath, Keeping Holy
Sacred/Profane Distinction
Set Apart
Setting Apart for Special Use
The Fourth Commandment
Walking as a Metaphor for Agreement

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Jacob

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CORRECT! Congratulations Jacob you are the first person to correctly identify that the first week of collecting the Manna occurred on the 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th & 21st of the second month after leaving Egypt.

Q2: Now we know the 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th & 21st of the second month were the days on which the Manna was first collected, on which day on the second month did God say the Sabbath was on? The answer is also found in Exodus 16 here:

http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?129091-TOL-treasure-hunt&p=5202584&viewfull=1#post5202584

The 22nd
 

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CORRECT! Well done Jacob you have also been the first to correctly answer question 2 that there was a Sabbath on day 22 of the second month after leaving Egypt.

Q3: In Leviticus 23 what day in the first month after leaving Egypt did God name a Sabbath:

Leviticus 23:1 & 4-15
1The Lord said to Moses, 2“Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘These are my appointed festivals, the appointed festivals of the Lord, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies.

4“ ‘These are the Lord’s appointed festivals, the sacred assemblies you are to proclaim at their appointed times: 5 The Lord’s Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month. 6 On the fifteenth day of that month the Lord’s Festival of Unleavened Bread begins; for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast. 7 On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work. 8 For seven days present a food offering to the Lord. And on the seventh day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work.’ ” 9 The Lord said to Moses, 10“Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘When you enter the land I am going to give you and you reap its harvest, bring to the priest a sheaf of the first grain you harvest. 11 He is to wave the sheaf before the Lord so it will be accepted on your behalf; the priest is to wave it on the day after the Sabbath. 12 On the day you wave the sheaf, you must sacrifice as a burnt offering to the Lord a lamb a year old without defect, 13 together with its grain offering of two-tenths of an ephah of the finest flour mixed with olive oil—a food offering presented to the Lord, a pleasing aroma—and its drink offering of a quarter of a hin of wine. 14 You must not eat any bread, or roasted or new grain, until the very day you bring this offering to your God. This is to be a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live. 15“ ‘From the day after the Sabbath, the day you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, count off seven full weeks.
 
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Jacob

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CORRECT! Well done Jacob you have also been the first to correctly answer question 2 that there was a Sabbath on day 22 of the second month after leaving Egypt.

Q3: In Leviticus 23 what day in the first month after leaving Egypt did God name a Sabbath:

Leviticus 23:1 & 4-15
1The Lord said to Moses, 2“Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘These are my appointed festivals, the appointed festivals of the Lord, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies.

4“ ‘These are the Lord’s appointed festivals, the sacred assemblies you are to proclaim at their appointed times: 5 The Lord’s Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month. 6 On the fifteenth day of that month the Lord’s Festival of Unleavened Bread begins; for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast. 7 On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work. 8 For seven days present a food offering to the Lord. And on the seventh day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work.’ ” 9 The Lord said to Moses, 10“Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘When you enter the land I am going to give you and you reap its harvest, bring to the priest a sheaf of the first grain you harvest. 11 He is to wave the sheaf before the Lord so it will be accepted on your behalf; the priest is to wave it on the day after the Sabbath. 12 On the day you wave the sheaf, you must sacrifice as a burnt offering to the Lord a lamb a year old without defect, 13 together with its grain offering of two-tenths of an ephah of the finest flour mixed with olive oil—a food offering presented to the Lord, a pleasing aroma—and its drink offering of a quarter of a hin of wine. 14 You must not eat any bread, or roasted or new grain, until the very day you bring this offering to your God. This is to be a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live. 15“ ‘From the day after the Sabbath, the day you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, count off seven full weeks.

I do not have the training necessary to answer your question.
 
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