ECT The Bible Reveals Jesus is GOD

keypurr

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Okay, thanks for the explanation.
However, the NT declares (the numbers are from my memory):
4 verses: Jesus created "all things"
3 verses: Father God created "all things" through Jesus
1 verse: Both created "all things" (as in "We" did it)

Sorry, but you are absolutely not trusting in what Scripture clearly says.
Instead, you are absolutely trusting in what some denomination clearly says.

IMO, Scripture is meaning to convey ...
The Creation was Father God's idea and plan,
but He had God the Son actually do the creating.
He is the Word, the Second Person of the Trinity,
the Son of God, the One who became a man
(begotten does not mean created).

Everyone!
Start over again with an open mind, with no biases, traditions, etc.!
... With your own home group!
... With people who have no agenda!
... With NO leaders who are "hireling" "tares" from Satan!
... With NO leaders who are depending on your tithes to survive!
... Especially with what is coming soon to America!

Warning: Jesus taught that the kingdom of God/heaven have both
wheat and tares, which will be separated out at the end of the age.
The wheat belong to God ... the tares belong to Satan.
Yes, it's true ... they look the same, smell the same, etc.

If God created all things through Christ, then Christ has a God over him, no equality.

How many Gods do you think their are?
 

ZacharyB

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How many Gods do you think there are?
The NT proves the fact that ...

Almighty God has chosen to reveal Himself to humanity
as being 3 Persons or 3 Manifestations of Himself.
One God presenting Himself as/in 3 Manifestations.


A compelling confirmation ...
He is everywhere (omnipresent), and
He is indwelling all born-again believers.
 

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The NT proves the fact that ...

Almighty God has chosen to reveal Himself to humanity
as being 3 Persons or 3 Manifestations of Himself.
One God presenting Himself as/in 3 Manifestations.


A compelling confirmation ...
He is everywhere (omnipresent), and
He is indwelling all born-again believers.

Jesus is not everywhere.

Joh 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

LA
 

Bright Raven

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Jesus is not everywhere.

Joh 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

LA
Philippians 2:5-11 New Living Translation (NLT)

5 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.

6 Though he was God,
he did not think of equality with God
as something to cling to.
7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges;
he took the humble position of a slave
and was born as a human being.
When he appeared in human form,
8 he humbled himself in obedience to God
and died a criminal’s death on a cross.
9 Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor
and gave him the name above all other names,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue declare that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.


Cool huh!
 

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Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

If Jesus was equal to God then He was not God or there were two Gods
 

steko

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Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.



Jesus is YHVH tsidkenu.
 

brewmama

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Wait. Are there actually people here claiming to be Christian who DON'T believe that Jesus Christ is the second person of the Trinity, the Word made flesh?
 

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Hebrews 7:3 (KJV)

"Without father, without mother, †without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto ethe Son of God; abideth a priest continually."

Ah, Yes. "made like a son". The operative word being, "made", as in being a human body prepared for the habitation of the Word of God, born of Mary, the seed of Adam divinely conceived and humanly born.

You want to argue with that? Maybe discuss it further? Need scripture?
 

SaulToPaul 2

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"Without father, without mother, †without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto ethe Son of God; abideth a priest continually."

Ah, Yes. "Made like a son". The operative word being, "Made", as in being a human body prepared for the habitation of the Word of God, born of Mary, the seed of Adam.

You want to argue with that? Need scripture?

Just tell me who the King and Savior of Israel is, according to:

1. The OT
2. The NT
 
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