Justification by Faith Alone
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Are you kidding? We were SANCTIFIED and JUSTIFIED by the blood of Jesus. Justified and sanctified are the same thing.
The blood of Jesus sanctifies us (Hebrews 10:29); Jesus sanctifies us by the truth (John 17:17); Jesus sanctifies (Hebrews 2:11); We are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus (Hebrews 10:10).
Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Romans 10:10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
Now tell me, are you going to stop repeating that nonsense about me and the scriptures?
beloved57
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They are not the same thing, Justification and Sanctification, no scripture says they are!
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Beloved and BR, They are the same.
Did not read the article did you. One of many. And if you do not care to, remain in you ignorance
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Is faith the instrument or the cause of your justification, Robert? Which one grounds one's justification?
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I have the written Word of God. You have articles to manipulate you and to manipulate the written word.
Hogwash! If you read and understood the Word of God correctly you would see the difference. Your infantile behavior raises itself to the forefront.
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What else do you have besides insults and accusations?
The truth. Read the word for understanding.
Faith is what makes the Gospel ours.
Justification is the result of the doing and the dying of Jesus.
lukecash12
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Methinks he didn't quite understand the question, AMR.
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No one gets understanding by reading. We get understanding by obeying. That is what the Word of God says.
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You were given scriptures that prove sanctification and justification are the same. Now do you admit you were taught something?
beloved57
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First of all, you dont believe the Gospel, secondly Justification before God occurs before the Gospel is sent to the Justified ones, and thirdly, you teach that millions upon millions that Christ Lived and died for will end up in the lake of fire unjustified, in unbelief in their sins ! So your saying that people are Justified solely by the doing and dying of Christ is a false testimony you dont even believe !
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I haven't the slightest doubt that any serious bible scholar could trash this idea were that person willing to waste his/her time. Go ahead and point me to where these apparent proofs are, in the thread, or if you can remember would you be so kind as to state your references?
See post #15 here, for an example as to how I might treat this claim: http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113209
No, There is no saving merit in faith. Man is declared righteous and justified based upon the doing and the dying of Jesus.
However, no one will be saved without faith.
Justification: God's work for us by Jesus Christ. The Gospel.
Sanctification: God's work in us by the Holy Spirit. The Christian life.
To confuse the two is heresy.