WARNING! Apostasy about to happen.

WatchmanOnTheWall

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We are told that the Anti-Christ will only appear after the apostasy of the Church happens:

2 Thessalonians 2:3
Don't let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

What could cause the Church to fall away on mass?

The Muslim's Quran and Hadiths have prophesy's that Jesus will return to Earth in order to select the Muslim Mahdi; this man will then rule the earth. Of course this will really be the Anti-Christ.

So how can Jesus return to select the Muslim Anti-Christ? These verses gives us clue:

Daniel 11:38-39
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

This tells us the Anti-Christ will follow a strange god who will empower him to defeat any fortress and allow him to rule the world. Therefore this fake Jesus will be immensely powerful and carry out the ultimate deception. This can be none other than Satan himself.

Satan will be so convincing as Jesus that most Christians will believe it and consequently give up there Christian faith. This is of no surprise seeing as most Christians haven't got a clue that any of this is about to happen and most of them have very little Bible knowledge.

Don't let anyone deceive you in any way!
 

Epoisses

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The anti-christ/man of sin will sit in the temple and claim to be god.

Only a Jew would be allowed to sit in the temple because the Gentiles are unclean.

Go home trailer-park and put another cinder block under the double wide!
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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See, after one day this has only had one reply from someone who knows nothing about what is coming.

The Apostasy is coming! Don't be deceived.
 

Robert Pate

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Banned
The apostasy has already happened. The historical Gospel of Jesus Christ is no longer taught in the organized church. The man of sin is the pope who claims to be the vicar of Christ.
 

Epoisses

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Antichrist will have to be someone Jews will be willing to accept as Messiah...for awhile. Even with a strong delusion, that likely will have to be a verifiable Jew from a long line of Jews.

I agree. No Muslim will sit in a Jewish temple....dur!
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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Antichrist will have to be someone Jews will be willing to accept as Messiah...for awhile. Even with a strong delusion, that likely will have to be a verifiable Jew from a long line of Jews.

No Gentile would ever be allowed to sit in a rebuilt temple so it pretty much narrows it down to who it will be.

Scripture states that the Anti-Christ attacks Israel. The Anti-Christ is not Jewish! Doh! If you don't even know this then you are both ripe for the coming delusion. The Apostasy is coming! Don't be deceived.
 

genuineoriginal

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We are told that the Anti-Christ will only appear after the apostasy of the Church happens:

2 Thessalonians 2:3
Don't let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

What could cause the Church to fall away on mass?

The Muslim's Quran and Hadiths have prophesy's that Jesus will return to Earth in order to select the Muslim Mahdi; this man will then rule the earth. Of course this will really be the Anti-Christ.

So how can Jesus return to select the Muslim Anti-Christ? These verses gives us clue:

Daniel 11:38-39
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

This tells us the Anti-Christ will follow a strange god who will empower him to defeat any fortress and allow him to rule the world. Therefore this fake Jesus will be immensely powerful and carry out the ultimate deception. This can be none other than Satan himself.

Satan will be so convincing as Jesus that most Christians will believe it and consequently give up there Christian faith. This is of no surprise seeing as most Christians haven't got a clue that any of this is about to happen and most of them have very little Bible knowledge.

Don't let anyone deceive you in any way!
Don't let anyone deceive you.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 is not talking about the same person as Daniel 11:38-39.
People that claim they are talking about the same person are trying to deceive you.
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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Don't let anyone deceive you.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 is not talking about the same person as Daniel 11:38-39.
People that claim they are talking about the same person are trying to deceive you.

See, another reply from someone who knows nothing about what is coming.

This is why the Apostasy of the Church happens! Don't be deceived.
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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Apostasy entered the congregations after the disciples died.

So who do you think the man of sin 'was'?

2 Thessalonians 2:3
Don't let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

Can you see the problem with you reasoning? The man of sin (The Anti-Christ) has not yet appeared on the scene, although I believe he is alive right now.
 

CherubRam

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So who do you think the man of sin 'was'?

2 Thessalonians 2:3
Don't let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

Can you see the problem with you reasoning? The man of sin (The Anti-Christ) has not yet appeared on the scene, although I believe he is alive right now.

The book of Revelation gives the answer. The (name / title) of the man and the (name / title) of the (beast / nation.) Rome was once where Satan sits. Who says they are God on earth? Who claims the things belonging to God is in his possession.
 

KingdomRose

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We are told that the Anti-Christ will only appear after the apostasy of the Church happens:

2 Thessalonians 2:3
Don't let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

What could cause the Church to fall away on mass?

The Muslim's Quran and Hadiths have prophesy's that Jesus will return to Earth in order to select the Muslim Mahdi; this man will then rule the earth. Of course this will really be the Anti-Christ.

So how can Jesus return to select the Muslim Anti-Christ? These verses gives us clue:

Daniel 11:38-39
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

This tells us the Anti-Christ will follow a strange god who will empower him to defeat any fortress and allow him to rule the world. Therefore this fake Jesus will be immensely powerful and carry out the ultimate deception. This can be none other than Satan himself.

Satan will be so convincing as Jesus that most Christians will believe it and consequently give up there Christian faith. This is of no surprise seeing as most Christians haven't got a clue that any of this is about to happen and most of them have very little Bible knowledge.

Don't let anyone deceive you in any way!

Wise words! Don't be deceived. The Apostasy happened 2,000 years ago, after the death of the last Apostle. The apostle Paul warned of this, and said that sometime after he "went away" the church would be infiltrated by "wolves," and this certainly took place. From the end of the first century onward, the church was adulterated with twisted teachings.

"I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves." (Acts 20:29,30)

This apostasy arose quickly and subverted Christ's pure teaching. Pagan-influenced doctrines such as the Trinity and Hell-fire started to be taught. Even the teaching that "Anti-Christ" is a single man who is yet to show up on the scene is a twisted teaching. Look closely at the Scriptures....."anti-christ" has been influencing the congregations since the Apostles were on the earth. John said that even thenanti-christ was among them, and there were MANY (I John 2:18; 4:3), not just a single individual.

"Every spirit that confesseth notthat Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world." (I John 4:3, KJV)

The "antichrist" is shown to be---not an individual person, but---a spiritual backwardness, a misleading spiritual stance, taken into the general cast of mind of those who were determined to influence the "flock" away from the truth. This "antichrist" can be identified as the religious institutions that have been lording it over billions of people for centuries. It can be compared to "the man of lawlessness" or "the son of perdition of 2 Thessalonians. This refers to a religious institution that considers itself on the level of God (think: what comes to mind when I think of a very high-ranking clergyman in expensive garb sitting on a gilded throne). This has been evident for many centuries, all the way back to the first millennium after Christ.

"Let no one seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes firt and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called 'god'or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god." (2 Thess. 2:3,4)

Don't look for an individual. "Anti-christ" has been here for 2,000 years. The deception has been quite thorough and extensive and even mistaken for something Godly.
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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The book of Revelation gives the answer. The (name / title) of the man and the (name / title) of the (beast / nation.) Rome was once where Satan sits. Who says they are God on earth? Who claims the things belonging to God is in his possession.

No!

There are three beasts referred to in Revelation 13. The New World Order, The Anti-Christ and the False Prophet.

The Anti-Christ takes over the NWO and for a time works with the False Prophet. The AC is the Muslim Mahdi and the FP will be the High Priest of the new Jewish Temple built on the Temple Mount. The fact that practically no Christians know any of this is why the Church will fall away when Satan deludes the World that he is Jesus and selects the Mahdi in Damascus who will take over the World as the Anti-Christ. (See OP)

Revelation 13 ►
The Beast out of the Sea

1The dragona stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

5The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.b

9Whoever has ears, let them hear.

10“If anyone is to go into captivity,

into captivity they will go.

If anyone is to be killedc with the sword,

with the sword they will be killed.”d

This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people.

The Beast out of the Earth

11Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

18This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.e That number is 666.
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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Wise words! Don't be deceived. The Apostasy happened 2,000 years ago, after the death of the last Apostle. The apostle Paul warned of this, and said that sometime after he "went away" the church would be infiltrated by "wolves," and this certainly took place. From the end of the first century onward, the church was adulterated with twisted teachings.

"I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves." (Acts 20:29,30)

This apostasy arose quickly and subverted Christ's pure teaching. Pagan-influenced doctrines such as the Trinity and Hell-fire started to be taught. Even the teaching that "Anti-Christ" is a single man who is yet to show up on the scene is a twisted teaching. Look closely at the Scriptures....."anti-christ" has been influencing the congregations since the Apostles were on the earth. John said that even thenanti-christ was among them, and there were MANY (I John 2:18; 4:3), not just a single individual.

"Every spirit that confesseth notthat Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world." (I John 4:3, KJV)

The "antichrist" is shown to be---not an individual person, but---a spiritual backwardness, a misleading spiritual stance, taken into the general cast of mind of those who were determined to influence the "flock" away from the truth. This "antichrist" can be identified as the religious institutions that have been lording it over billions of people for centuries. It can be compared to "the man of lawlessness" or "the son of perdition of 2 Thessalonians. This refers to a religious institution that considers itself on the level of God (think: what comes to mind when I think of a very high-ranking clergyman in expensive garb sitting on a gilded throne). This has been evident for many centuries, all the way back to the first millennium after Christ.

"Let no one seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes firt and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called 'god'or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god." (2 Thess. 2:3,4)

Don't look for an individual. "Anti-christ" has been here for 2,000 years. The deception has been quite thorough and extensive and even mistaken for something Godly.

It is this type of belief that is one of worst deceptions from Satan, as it is actively trying to hide Satan's Anti-Christ who will appear and at the same time blind Christians to what God tells us will cause the apostasy of the Church. You are thoroughly deceived and are ripe for the coming delusion.

The Apostasy is coming! Don't be deceived.
 

DAN P

Well-known member
It is this type of belief that is one of worst deceptions from Satan, as it is actively trying to hide Satan's Anti-Christ who will appear and at the same time blind Christians to what God tells us will cause the apostasy of the Church. You are thoroughly deceived and are ripe for the coming delusion.

The Apostasy is coming! Don't be deceived.



And here is the correct interpretation of 2 Thess 2:1-3 !!

The CONTEXT OF 2 Thess 1-3 is CAUGHT UP / PAROUSIA !!

So the correct interpretation of verse 3 is NOT FALLING AWAY , but a DEPARTURE of the B O C and then in verse 3 The man of sin should be Revealed !!

Then God will in verse 11 , well send them the superhuman power of ERROR for them to believe a LIE , to those left behind !!

The Greek word APOSTASIA has many other meaning as it is a transliterated word !!

dan p
 
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