the history of Islam

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the history of Islam

Muslim Conquests

Byzantine–Ottoman Wars

636 Battle of Yarmouk

637 Siege of Jerusalem

641 Siege of Alexandria

674 First Arab Siege of Constantinople

711 Umayyad conquest of Hispania

717 Second Arab Siege of Constantinople

732 Battle of Tours

1099 Siege of Jerusalem

1187 Battle of Hattin

1291 Siege of Acre

1422 Siege of Constantinople

1453 Fall of Constantinople

1492 Battle of Granada

1529 Siege of Vienna

1565 Siege of Malta

1571 Battle of Lepanto

1683 Battle of Vienna

2001 September 11 attacks

2015 November Paris attacks



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Can you do a similar list for Catholicism please?

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Killings for Islam

Islam and Christianity have an interesting contrast. Jesus never killed anyone, and Christianity took 300 years before the killing began. Whereas Islam began with killing of unbelievers right from the start.
For the first century of its existence, Islam was absolutely soaked in blood. The killing only slowed down as the Islamic empire finally ran into boundaries in the 8th century, after about a century of expansionist, imperialist, unprovoked Islamic aggression.
Even after the initial expansion slowed, the killings did not end. Slaughter (jihad) and oppression (sharia) are part of the core doctrines of Islam. Killing for Islam is not a modern idea, and it will never end until some sort of reformation takes place within the religion. Medieval Christianity was equally violent, but Christianity has since reformed.
For many years now, Islam has been the most violent religion in the world.




 
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Counter of Islamist attacks since 9/11.
Islam, the "Religion of Peace", has carried out an average 4 to 5 terrorist attacks a day, every day since 9/11.
 
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Tears of Jihad

Mar 3 2008 | by Bill Warner

These figures are a rough estimate of the death of non-Muslims by the political act of jihad.


Africa
Thomas Sowell [Thomas Sowell, Race and Culture, BasicBooks, 1994, p. 188] estimates that 11 million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic and 14 million were sent to the Islamic nations of North Africa and the Middle East. For every slave captured many others died. Estimates of this collateral damage vary. The renowned missionary David Livingstone estimated that for every slave who reached a plantation, five others were killed in the initial raid or died of illness and privation on the forced march.[Woman’s Presbyterian Board of Missions, David Livingstone, p. 62, 1888] Those who were left behind were the very young, the weak, the sick and the old. These soon died since the main providers had been killed or enslaved. So, for 25 million slaves delivered to the market, we have an estimated death of about 120 million people. Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa.
120 million Africans

Christians
The number of Christians martyred by Islam is 9 million [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-10] . A rough estimate by Raphael Moore in History of Asia Minor is that another 50 million died in wars by jihad. So counting the million African Christians killed in the 20th century we have:
60 million Christians

Hindus
Koenard Elst in Negationism in India gives an estimate of 80 million Hindus killed in the total jihad against India. [Koenard Elst, Negationism in India, Voice of India, New Delhi, 2002, pg. 34.] The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad. The mountains near India are called the Hindu Kush, meaning the “funeral pyre of the Hindus.”
80 million Hindus

Buddhists
Buddhists do not keep up with the history of war. Keep in mind that in jihad only Christians and Jews were allowed to survive as dhimmis (servants to Islam) everyone else had to convert or die. Jihad killed the Buddhists in Turkey, Afghanistan, along the Silk Route, and in India. The total is roughly 10 million. [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-1.]

10 million Buddhists

Jews
Oddly enough there were not enough Jews killed in jihad to significantly affect the totals of the Great Annihilation. The jihad in Arabia was 100 percent effective, but the numbers were in the thousands, not millions. After that, the Jews submitted and became the dhimmis (servants and second class citizens) of Islam and did not have geographic political power.
This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad.


 
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Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace "Mohammed is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

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2015.08.07 (Sevare, Mali) - A Fedayeen suicide assault on a hotel used by UN staff leaves a half dozen dead. 2015.08.07 (Kabul, Afghanistan) - A suicide bomber detonates in the city center, killing at least twenty civilians, including a teacher and six children. 2015.08.06 (Misrata, Libya) - A pro-Sharia group abducts a secular judge, tortures him for a month and then executes him. 2015.08.06 (Abha, Saudi Arabia) - Fifteen worshippers at a mosque are sent straight to Allah by a Shahid suicide bomber. 2015.08.05 (Diyala, Iraq) - A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out thirteen Iraqis. 2015.08.05 (Borno, Nigeria) - A kidnapped policeman is beheaded to shouts of 'Allah Akbar'.
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Islamist Influence in Hollywood (Human Events)
"Hollywood regularly capitulates to CAIR on how to portray Muslims, even though many in CAIR's leadership are sympathetic to Islamic terrorists." Islam in Europe: June, 2015 (Gatestone)
A month of sex slavery, beheadings and Twitter terrorism for European hosts. Muslim Accomplishment? (Islam Watch)
The contributions of Islamic society to the world are mainly war, civil strain, and that ever-streaming flow of refugees seeking a better (ie. non-Muslim) place to live. The Case Against Anjem Choudary (Gatestone)
The taxpayer supported law school graduate skirted the edge as closely as possible without going over - or did he? Hey Pope, Stop Talking and Start Walking - to Raqqa (PJ Media)
The pope says that Islam is a peaceful religion and that dialog is more powerful than violence. Why not put it to the test? Do Lives Matter in Africa and the Middle East? (FrontPage)
"There is scarcely a peep from [African-American and feminist activists] when it comes to the unrelenting brutality suffered by women and black Africans in places under the thumb of the Islamic State." Killing Jewish Children for Allah? (Jerusalem Post)
The test of a society's morality is how it responds to murderers and acts of terror. The Islamic State's Evil Genius (Irish Times)
Medieval executions and slavery mix with Hollywood-worthy propaganda to entice Muslim purists. Denouncing Intellect and Logic (Robert Spencer)
Good Muslims know to ignore their brains, says one cleric. We couldn't agree more. Playing Dumb About Radical Islam (City Journal)
Even the leaders in Muslim countries denounce Islamic terror by name. Gay Marriage Hypocrisy in the UK (Daily Mail)
"You end up with some kind of warped moral equivalence between headbangers who are trying to persuade impressionable young children to become terrorists, and devout Christians who object to gay marriage." Pakistan's Continuing War Against Indian Civilization (New India)
We try to avoid sites that distract from good articles with video ads. Unfortunately, this one can't be found anywhere else. When Muslims Burn Jews Alive (Daniel Greenfield)
"The Muslim terrorists had mixed glue and gasoline so that the burning mixture would stick to the skin of their victims. It took years of surgery for the American couple to begin the road to recovery." 10 Reasons to Reject Muslim Immigration (10 News)
Refugees to the West aren't good for the West - and probably not as good as you think for the refugees, says this Danish psychologist. Nope, We Aren't Winning Against ISIS (Commentary)
The Islamic State has been weathering the bombing campaign quite well and is even expanding globally. 20 Inventions or 20 Lies? (BNI)
Myth and Fact concerning the scientific discoveries mistakenly attributed to the Islamic world. The Triumph and the Silence (Ongoing War)
What does it say about a society that celebrates psychopathic behavior? Israel Didn't Kill 500 Palestinian Children (Thomas Wictor)
A look at some of the flaws in an oft-cited statistic about the last war started by Hamas. Pakistani Beaten by Saudis (Tarek Fatah)
(Video) Disturbing video of Saudis abusing a Pakistani migrant worker make you wonder what goes on when the cameras aren't there. Jihadists in America: The Media Narrative (Jerusalem Post)
"The irony, of course, is that media analysts, while preaching the gospel of cultural relativism, are themselves entirely blind to the moral values and cultural underpinnings of those who adhere to different sets of guiding principles." 'Islamophobia' vs. Ingratitude (American Thinker)
In the wake of ghastly attacks against Americans, there are immediate calls from the Muslim communities, not to express their remorse or outrage so much as for others to understand their 'grievances'. Why Iran is Obsessed with Jews (Asia Times)
Iran's 'master faith' sounds like Hitler's 'master race'. And When Iran Does Go Nuclear? (Gatestone)
We're told that the best way to prevent Iran from develop nuclear weapons is to let them develop nuclear weapons. The 1993 Massacre of Intellectuals (Jerusalem Monitor)
"Turkish journalist Uzay Bulut describes how Turkish Islamists that massacred Alevi intellectuals in 1993 have never been punished for their crimes and even gained political power within her country." The Caliph's Christian Sex Slaves (American Interest)
"No female is considered too young; only women over forty are let go or released for ransom. Amnesty reported that some slaves were 'just babies'." Palestinians: The Difference Between Us and Them (Gatestone)
"Netanyahu's strong and clear condemnation left me and other Palestinians wondering when was the last time we heard similar statements from our [Arab] leaders." Funding the Mullahs' Execution Spree (FrontPage Magazine)
The Islamic Republic of Iran has executed more people in the first seven months of 2015 than the US has in the last fifteen years combined. ISIS Dehumanizes Women: Where's the Outcry? (Clarion)
"The forced veiling of women reduces women to subhuman forms. A jump from there to rape and abuse is easy." Islamonausea? (10 News)
"Our language needs a term that describes what many critically thinking people feel about Islam according to ourselves, not according to what Muslims want us to feel, or what the political correct threaten to call us."

 
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He also forgot the genocide of the Armenian People by Turkey.
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Sure. And the transmission of the Greek classics that Christians spent so much efforts trying to erase from history.

Do you think that it would be appropriate to set out a list of the many wars and atrocities of, say, Christianity and none of the great accomplishments and call it "the history of Christianity"?
 
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Sure. And the transmission of the Greek classics that Christians spent so much efforts trying to erase from history.

Do you think that it would be appropriate to set out a list of the many wars and atrocities of, say, Christianity and none of the great accomplishments and call it "the history of Christianity"?
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I am not an apologist for history.
It is todays issues that occupy my thoughts.
The minute we start flapping our gums about the atrocities committed by this or that historical tyrannical rule we dilute the focus on today's issues.
Today Islam is controlled by a death machine which is endangering all of us.
Also, I cannot see one single affirmation of woman in Islam.
 
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I think many might find it interesting that there is scant evidence of the historical life of Muhammad himself on your research.

There are certainly lots of objective and not-to-objective facts of authentic history, but those accounts were established in the record centuries later.

The story of Muhammad's life is really interesting.

Like the echoes of the historical figure of Jesus found in our gospels, there are also myths and theology sometimes bound up with the actual events that "really happened."

Like our own resurrection myth, the Prophet is said to have returned to Heaven on a white horse the moment of his death.
This is no different in structure to similar other-worldly myths recounted after Jesus lived.

Christianity grew from a small band of committed followers to a violent government of authoritarian rule with an immense bureaucratic structure in 325 AD when the church merged with pagan Rome. Similar details happened after the Muslim prophet died. This is a fact of life: things change and often resolve into the opposite of how they began.
 
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chrysostom said:
the history of Islam

Muslim Conquests

Byzantine–Ottoman Wars

636 Battle of Yarmouk

637 Siege of Jerusalem

641 Siege of Alexandria

674 First Arab Siege of Constantinople

711 Umayyad conquest of Hispania

717 Second Arab Siege of Constantinople

732 Battle of Tours

1099 Siege of Jerusalem

1187 Battle of Hattin

1291 Siege of Acre

1422 Siege of Constantinople

1453 Fall of Constantinople

1492 Battle of Granada

1529 Siege of Vienna

1565 Siege of Malta

1571 Battle of Lepanto

1683 Battle of Vienna

2001 September 11 attacks
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A good list, but I would not put the last in the same category. There is way too much monkey business going on with it. An American association of building engineers has completely discredited the stated purpose of the event. This does not affect the level of the danger of the agenda of Islam at all; even they took credit for it. But there are too many inside indicators to put it in the same category. I can get you the engineer association link. The foremost skyscraper construction co. in the US recently joined the position of the association.
 
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btw, the city hall of Budapest (as I recall) has a massive cieling mural of the size of Muslim navy during one battle and depicts the defeat. The article I read explained that most of the ships trees came from western Turkey and changed the landscape there going forward.
 
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I am not an apologist for history.
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I'm not even sure what that would be. I try to be a defender of the truth.

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It is todays issues that occupy my thoughts.
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Ok, then sink your teeth into this one. As an American in the United States today, you are far, far more likely to be killed by a white Christian than a Muslim of any color. But few people will call it terrorism if you are killed by a Christian, even if the motives are explicitly political or religious.

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The minute we start flapping our gums about the atrocities committed by this or that historical tyrannical rule we dilute the focus on today's issues.
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What do you think the point of this thread was? Only one of Chrys's original events happened in the last few centuries.

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Today Islam is controlled by a death machine which is endangering all of us.
Also, I cannot see one single affirmation of woman in Islam.
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Parts of it are, as are parts of the Christian world. But I guarantee that the solution is not half-informed bigotry against the billion Muslims in the world.
 
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Catholics were only involved in just wars. Even in cases when they were on opposite sides.
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Tell that to the Albigensians and Waldensians.
But most of the wars in the Middle Ages were of a defensive nature with the Muslims with the exceptions of the crusades.
 
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chrysostom said:
the history of Islam

Muslim Conquests

Byzantine–Ottoman Wars

636 Battle of Yarmouk

637 Siege of Jerusalem

641 Siege of Alexandria

674 First Arab Siege of Constantinople

711 Umayyad conquest of Hispania

717 Second Arab Siege of Constantinople

732 Battle of Tours

1099 Siege of Jerusalem

1187 Battle of Hattin

1291 Siege of Acre

1422 Siege of Constantinople

1453 Fall of Constantinople

1492 Battle of Granada

1529 Siege of Vienna

1565 Siege of Malta

1571 Battle of Lepanto

1683 Battle of Vienna

2001 September 11 attacks
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Did you intend to leave out the Ottoman Empire's involvement in WW I?
This list could be much, much longer. Muslim attacks on Europe were fairly relentless over the centuries until the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
 
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